Battle of ALCMs : BrahMos A vs Pakistan’s Ra’ad

[GuardianRED]

Nice video , did it hit the target?

 

[RAMPAGE]

Nice video , did it hit the target?

I don't know, Perhaps we should strap @rockstarIN to the missile and have him confirm that it's a hoax?

 

[I M Sikander]

As far as capabilities go Brahmos is
Better

Hahah. A one liner judgement.
We expected better response with logic to justify your claim.

 

[gslv mk3]

A poster doesntnprove anything. Even if I believe you, the brahmos is still a joint venture

Gosh, are you trying to be funny ? That infograph is about Indian LRCM, which is an independent effort to develop a liquid fuel ramjet engine propelled CM, with our own technology.

LFRJ & DFRJ technology is being actively pursued by DRDO & ISRO. Did you thought we will ditch all R&D on that front because of the Russian JV?

the brahmos is a anti ship missile w

Non sense. The Yakhont was an anti ship missile. Not Brahmos.

 

[danger007]

what are you trying to prove y showing my that article? im confused

Land variant is there not just Anti ship missile ...

 

[Blue Marlin]

Gosh, are you trying to be funny ? That infograph is about Indian LRCM, which is an independent effort to develop a liquid fuel ramjet engine propelled CM, with our own technology.

LFRJ & DFRJ technology is being actively pursued by DRDO & ISRO. Did you thought we will ditch all R&D on that front because of the Russian JV?



Non sense. The Yakhont was an anti ship missile. Not Brahmos.

what is it then? its based of the p800 and you cant question that no doubt sure india makes parts for it too as its a joint venture but any major chnage would require the technical expertise of the russains. i assume you mean it can also engage surface targets too

 

[gslv mk3]

what is it then? its based of the p800 and you cant question that no doubt sure india makes parts for it too as its a joint venture but any major chnage would require the technical expertise of the russains. i assume you mean it can also engage surface targets too

The point is it's based on the Yakhont- but it isnt the Yakhont. Its not the case of a few components, Brahmos has been indigenized long back.

And we don't need help for anything apart from the Ramjet technology. Did we ask for their help in developing submarine/air launched Brahmos ? Check out the Indian developed Seekers/FCS for Brahmos.

And FYI, the land attack version is as old as the Brahmos program.

Anyway, I don't expect a British-Pakistani troll, who asks ridiculous questions like ''Do India has semi-trailer trucks" to comprehend any of these.

 

[amardeep mishra]

what is it then? its based of the p800 and you cant question that no doubt sure india makes parts for it too as its a joint venture but any major chnage would require the technical expertise of the russains. i assume you mean it can also engage surface targets too

Hi dear @Blue Marlin
In my opinion both the missile belong to,two very different class hence a direct comparison isnt really meaningful. Ra'ad is a sub-sonic missile powered by a turbojet. Ra'ad at best can be compared to other air-launched/turbofan/jet powered cruise missiles in indian inventory.However i wish to highlight certain facts pertaining to Ra'ad-For instance the weight of Raad is 1.1 tonnes,as against 1.5tonnes of Nirbhay- only the former can do only 350kms as against 1000+kms of latter. Mind it raad doesnt have a booster!
I tend to think either the design of the missile creates too much drag or the engines are very inefficient! A missile with the weight of Raad should be able to nothing less than 700-800kms!

 

[kaykay]

what a weird comparison, the brahmos is a anti ship missile whilst the raad is a standoff missile

you could be on to something here, both of them are red

lolz Brahmos has many variants....Navy uses anti-ship ones, Army uses land attack ones while Airforce to use both variants.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Land variant is there not just Anti ship missile ...

Hi dear @Blue Marlin
In my opinion both the missile belong to,two very different class hence a direct comparison isnt really meaningful. Ra'ad is a sub-sonic missile powered by a turbojet. Ra'ad at best can be compared to other air-launched/turbofan/jet powered cruise missiles in indian inventory.However i wish to highlight certain facts pertaining to Ra'ad-For instance the weight of Raad is 1.1 tonnes,as against 1.5tonnes of Nirbhay- only the former can do only 350kms as against 1000+kms of latter. Mind it raad doesnt have a booster!
I tend to think either the design of the missile creates too much drag or the engines are very inefficient! A missile with the weight of Raad should be able to nothing less than 700-800kms!

i said the point of comparing the two are pointless
also the nirbhay is in the class of the babur. and it being airlaunched does not give one the right to put it against the raad. i personally find the nirhbay alcm useless as a groundlaunch variant will fair better as it can be as big as it needs to be for it to launch at its desired needs.
its like the brahmos, the standard ground/ship launched version is heavier than the air-launched version. it still needs a booster to get the ram engine going.
mind you its all about needs, does pakistan needs a supersonic anti ship/ground missile? and the raad being pakistani do we trust them in the figures. also i hear alot of the time that india has a lot of patents with its tech and pakistan doesn't so does that mean india is technically superior than pakistan? no........ it means your more open than they are. if you publish a patent people can know whats inside and what your capable of. and if you dont people dont know nothing. i think they are taking a leaf out of china's book here and keeping mum on their more important weaponry. and the mods here ensure nothing sensitive is leaked without intention.

 

[Nigel Farrage]

no pakistan doesnt publicise because pakistan has nothing to show..even china with all secretiveness publicise all the data in form of researche paper & patents but not pakistan .pakistan produce none of these technologies

Pakistan doesn't produce any of these technology.yet many of these are in its missiles thanks to china

1. Thrust vector rocket & TVC booster
2. INS systems(Ring laser, FOG. Not even old MEMS)
3. Navigation control system
4. TERCOM
5. DSMAC/Automatic target recognition
6. Seekers
7. composite
8. RCS(radar cross section) design lab & test bed facility
9. Access to military GPS/Beidou/GLONASS/IRNSS/Galileo
=>Not sure about Chinese Beidou
10. Turbofan engines & actuators

http://mtcr_annex_handbook_eng.pdf/

Go away dumb ***. Likewise India buys tech from Israel and Russia. Whatever India tries to make, never sees sunlight.

 

[amardeep mishra]

also i hear alot of the time that india has a lot of patents with its tech and pakistan doesn't so does that mean india is technically superior than pakistan? no.......

@Blue Marlin
I am amazed you think so! Anyways,ever wondered the quantum of general industrial research taking place in your country pakistan?Please do read up on that- hope the numbers will tell you something?

i think they are taking a leaf out of china's book here and keeping mum on their more important weaponry. and the mods here ensure nothing sensitive is leaked without intention.

Thats also not entirely correct these days as china is filling a hell lot of patents these days. You know it is easier to hide one's incompetenies behind the veil of "secrecy".But one must be critical of his/her assesment.

 

[gslv mk3]

Likewise India buys tech from Israel and Russia. Whatever India tries to make, never sees sunlight.

Any more non sense.

 

[Blue Marlin]

@Blue Marlin
I am amazed you think so! Anyways,ever wondered the quantum of general industrial research taking place in your country pakistan?Please do read up on that- hope the numbers will tell you something?



Thats also not entirely correct these days as china is filling a hell lot of patents these days. You know it is easier to hide one's incompetenies behind the veil of "secrecy".But one must be critical of his/her assesment.

i hate reading so im not gonna bother. mind you god knows what them lot are upto over there. also so seem to be under the impression im from pakistan or did i read it wrong.

also chinese patents come from unis mainly and are great way to get your self established. filing a patent to mask its true abilities is something thats not uncommon. mind you i can assume we can both agree on that india is a lot more open than pakistan.

 

[amardeep mishra]

also chinese patents come from unis mainly and are great way to get your self established.

@Blue Marlin
There is no doubt that chinese univs file a lot of patents these days however they are no match in front of chinese multinational giants like ZTE,huawei that file more than 3000 patents annually! Hence it is the chinese MNCs that drives the patent filling spree! As for your nationality- I will say only one thing- "One must learn to be honest first"!