Battle of ALCMs : BrahMos A vs Pakistan’s Ra’ad

[salarsikander]

Yep, considering previous record of DRDO- successful programs including Agni V, K-4 SLBM, BMD & Astra- I'm sure it'll be a success. BTW, how many other countries have 2 independent scramjet programs ?

And we start talking about weapon systems long before they come into existence- that's because complex weapon systems will take several years to develop & mature. We are also drawing on our previous experience -we don't usually receive pre-tested systems/ matured technology from elsewhere.

BMD and Astra yet to be operational. We all know very well of successful story of tejas and host of other project. Let's not feel so butthurrt here now

 

[gslv mk3]

Yes when it see the light if the day then talk. Until then for me considering the previous pathetic attempt by DRDO and its record, its b.s. for me no offence though

Yep, considering previous record of DRDO- successful programs including Agni V, K-4 SLBM, BMD & Astra- I'm sure it'll be a success. BTW, how many other countries have 2 independent scramjet programs ?

And we start talking about weapon systems long before they come into existence- that's because complex weapon systems will take several years to develop & mature. We are also drawing on our previous experience -we don't usually receive pre-tested systems/ matured technology from elsewhere.

 

[Falcon26]

Super Super Sonic VS subsonic who is better

India already Has Capability to counter Supersonic to Sub sonic CM's

With this

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-India-develop-Barak-8-to-counter-Brahmos

I hope you guys don't say the Barak systems are Indian systems like the Brahmos.

 

[John Reese]

I hope you guys don't say the Barak systems are Indian systems like the Brahmos.

It's JV.

Like Brahmos we have intellectual Patent rights filed for certain technologies including main seeker developed by BEL



We have research literature and published papers

Do you have any of that
Accept blogs and articles

As for the topic, completely pointless comparison. The Ra'ad is a subsonic cruise missile while the Brahmos is a supersonic. Currently, Indian Air Force has no equivalent system to Ra'ad while Chinese origin supersonic missiles like the CX-1 and CM-400 cruise missiles in service with Pakistan are comparable to the Brahmos.

In the long run, Pakistan should pay attention to the Chinese WU-14 hypersonic delievery systems that touch Mach 10.

Brahmos is already integrated with Sukhoi-30 if you followed the news lately

India already posses Russian origin
Like

Kh-55.

And KH-59

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-59



Chinese CX-1 already in prototype stage Talk me when it get inducted

LMAO.
India has dozens of Kh-59ME and KH-59MK2 air launched cruise missiles.
Kh-59ME was inducted 15 years back.

Guy Completely has No Idea That's The Problem With Such Trolls they Come here unprepared Without Factual Arguments

Laughable none sense. The only thing Indian about the Barak is the Patel that fires it.

India has strong missile/rocket technology base but you guys embarrass yourself when you claim the Barak and Russian reconfigured P-800 P-800 Oniks as somehow Indian weapons. It is pathetic.

Read this To Increase Your Intellectual capacity Brahmos Seeker is Indigenous

 

[Falcon26]

As for the topic, completely pointless comparison. The Ra'ad is a subsonic cruise missile while the Brahmos is a supersonic. Currently, Indian Air Force has no equivalent system to Ra'ad while Chinese origin supersonic missiles like the CX-1 and CM-400 cruise missiles in service with Pakistan are comparable to the Brahmos.

In the long run, Pakistan should pay attention to the Chinese WU-14 hypersonic delievery systems that touch Mach 10.

 

[Viper 94]

That doesn't prove anything. Indians too can brag about Brahmos, while our own LFRJ technology is still in works.

targeting dams which will cause great civilian loss of life is a war crime

 

[Super Falcon]

Brahmos might be. Good but military technology doesn't end at brahmos Pakistan can acquire Chinese DF 21 which will deny Indian ships atleast far away so only IAF has capabilities to launch them we just need more jets to counter SU 30 with brahmos we need SU 35 to counter this threat

 

[Falcon26]

It's JV.

Like Brahmos we have intellectual Patent rights filed for certain technologies including main seeker developed by BEL



We have research literature and published papers

Do you have any of that
Accept blogs and articles

Laughable none sense. The only thing Indian about the Barak is the Patel that fires it.

India has strong missile/rocket technology base but you guys embarrass yourself when you claim the Barak and Russian reconfigured P-800 P-800 Oniks as somehow Indian weapons. It is pathetic.

 

[Director General]

As for the topic, completely pointless comparison. The Ra'ad is a subsonic cruise missile while the Brahmos is a supersonic. Currently, Indian Air Force has no equivalent system to Ra'ad while Chinese origin supersonic missiles like the CX-1 and CM-400 cruise missiles in service with Pakistan are comparable to the Brahmos.

LMAO.
India has dozens of Kh-59ME and KH-59MK2 air launched cruise missiles.
Kh-59ME was inducted 15 years back.

 

[gslv mk3]

Astra yet to be operational. We all know very well of successful story of tejas and host of other project.

Only one behaving in a butt-hurt manner here, is you. You tried to troll, claiming that every Indian program is a failure, and got owned for it.

BMD & Astra are close to being operational & even developing a BMD system is an achievement in itself.

Tejas? Last time I checked, it was inducted in the air force with further improvements already underway. Seems you guys have developed some sort of 'tunnel vision' after focusing too much on our temporary set backs. See, many Pakistani members who trolled ISRO in the 2012 gslv failure thread might be unaware of the fact that India was able to iron out the kinks in the gslv/cryo engine design & gslv made its successful flight in January 2014. Likewise, we are open about our R&D programs.

 

[gslv mk3]

Laughable none sense. The only thing Indian about the Barak is the Patel that fires it.

Dual-purpose rocket motor, actuators

 

[salarsikander]

close to being operational[/QUOTE]

This says everything. Tejas yes after some 3 decades

 

[John Reese]

Still fire A HOBS CCM though

With elbit DASH HMDS

Capability even F-16 blk 52 lacks

is that reason why air force has to forcefully accept it

Prove it it Forcefully Accepted Any IAF Official Says So

Never The Less IAF ordered 120

let me find a link for you


Prove it it Forcefully Accepted Any IAF Official Says So

Never The Less IAF ordered 120

Yes, they were forced[/QUOTE]
Say Who ?? Please Any Govt Official

IAF chief flies LCA, gives it a thumbs-up

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...es-lca-gives-it-a-thumbsup/article8612018.ece

Still fire A HOBS CCM though

With elbit DASH HMDS

Capibilty even F-16 blk 52 lacks

joint cueing system[/QUOTE]

Any HOBS not missile's

Lolz US won't let you integrate Chinese missile do they

No f-16 or Aim-9X for you

 

[gslv mk3]

Needless to say, we have a credible industrial ecosystem for production of Brahmos- comprising of PSUs like HAL & ECIL, private sector giants like Godrej and L&T,MSME like Astra & Data Patterns. I would like to see the industrial infrastructure on the other side of the border.

Says everything !
Tejas after 3 decades

Sure, how many other countries have developed a 4+ gen fighter aircraft in 27 years , without adequate experience or infrastructure? (Including the 3 years without approval of funding).

BTW Astra has undergone user trials with the IAF.

 

[salarsikander]

Needless to say, we have a credible industrial ecosystem for production of Brahmos- comprising of PSUs like HAL & ECIL, private sector giants like Godrej and L&T,MSME like Astra & Data Patterns. I would like to see the industrial infrastructure on the other side of the border.



Sure, how many other countries have developed a 4+ gen fighter aircraft in 27 years , without adequate experience or infrastructure? (Including the 3 years without approval of funding).

LOL. even the DM says it uses 43% local components the rest is imported

Says everything !
Tejas after 3 decades

Still fire A HOBS CCM though

With elbit DASH HMDS

Capability even F-16 blk 52 lacks[/QUOTE]
is that reason why air force has to forcefully accept it