Bangladesh to remove Jihad from madrasa textbooks

[Flynn Swagmire]

Shia's hardly give any importance to ijma. Had to google what ijma is lol.
Even among sunnies the view among scholars may differ. What is the ijma about jihad?

Everyone (muslims) gives importance to Ijma. Sunni-Shia is a political division, not religious.

Scholars do have different views thats why Ijma is important for standardization purpose.

Simple definition of Jihad is:
1. Fight against your un Islamic desire.
2. Fight against the oppression.

 

[Al-zakir]

Jihad is intergal part of Islam. Jihad comes in many form. Individual to state level. Removing Jihad from text book is like denying part of Islam.


Bd Ulama e din need to come in term with Bd policy makers.

Let’s see how far it goes

 

[Banglar Bir]

Jihad: A Misunderstood Concept from Islam - What Jihad is, and is not
SHAYKH MUHAMMAD HISHAM KABBANI (CHAIRMAN, ISLAMIC SUPREME COUNCIL OF AMERICA) AND SHAYKH SERAJ HENDRICKS (HEAD MUFTI, CAPE TOWN, SOUTH AFRICA)
ARTICLE INDEX
Jihad: A Misunderstood Concept from Islam
Jihad in History and Law
Jihad and Islamic Propagation
Forced Conversion?
Conditions for Combative Jihad
Islamic Terms of Ratifying Peace
Jihad Between Muslims
Dhikr: the Remembrance of God
Rebellion Against Rulers
Terms: What Jihad is, and is not
Footnotes
All Pages
Page 10 of 11
WHAT JIHAD IS
The Arabic word "jihad" is often translated as "holy war," but in a purely linguistic sense, the word " jihad" means struggling or striving.

The arabic word for war is: "al-harb".

In a religious sense, as described by the Quran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (s), "jihad" has many meanings. It can refer to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslims or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam.

If military jihad is required to protect the faith against others, it can be performed using anything from legal, diplomatic and economic to political means. If there is no peaceful alternative, Islam also allows the use of force, but there are strict rules of engagement. Innocents - such as women, children, or invalids - must never be harmed, and any peaceful overtures from the enemy must be accepted.

Military action is therefore only one means of jihad, and is very rare. To highlight this point, the Prophet Mohammed told his followers returning from a military campaign: "This day we have returned from the minor jihad to the major jihad," which he said meant returning from armed battle to the peaceful battle for self-control and betterment.

In case military action appears necessary, not everyone can declare jihad. The religious military campaign has to be declared by a proper authority, advised by scholars, who say the religion and people are under threat and violence is imperative to defend them. The concept of "just war" is very important.

The concept of jihad has been hijacked by many political and religious groups over the ages in a bid to justify various forms of violence. In most cases, Islamic splinter groups invoked jihad to fight against the established Islamic order. Scholars say this misuse of jihad contradicts Islam.

Examples of sanctioned military jihad include the Muslims' defensive battles against the Crusaders in medieval times, and before that some responses by Muslims against Byzantine and Persian attacks during the period of the early Islamic conquests.
WHAT JIHAD IS NOT
Jihad is not a violent concept.

Jihad is not a declaration of war against other religions. It is worth noting that the Koran specifically refers to Jews and Christians as "people of the book" who should be protected and respected. All three faiths worship the same God. Allah is just the Arabic word for God, and is used by Christian Arabs as well as Muslims.

Military action in the name of Islam has not been common in the history of Islam. Scholars says most calls for violent jihad are not sanctioned by Islam.

Warfare in the name of God is not unique to Islam. Other faiths throughout the world have waged wars with religious justifications
http://islamicsupremecouncil.org/un...misunderstood-concept-from-islam.html?start=9

 

[bluesky]

Banglar BirSENIOR MEMBER

"Jihad: A Misunderstood Concept from Islam - What Jihad is, and is not"
As the meaning of jihad can be misunderstood, therefore, it should not come to the fore of any teaching. Wahaabi interpretation of this word is liable to lead a Muslim to fight against any one and kill him, who denies the Wahaabi interpretation.

 

[Mage]

2. Fight against the oppression.

And what oppression would be?

 

[bluesky]

And what oppression would be?

Can it be interpreted also, 'Fight against oppressing women?' It is a good and human interpretation although 180 degree away from the good Muslims' thinking.

 

[Banglar Bir]

Oppression
Synonyms for oppression
noun misery, hardship

• abuse
• brutality
• coercion
• cruelty
• despotism
• dictatorship
• domination

• injustice
• maltreatment
• persecution
• suffering
• autocracy
• calamity
• compulsion

• conquering
• controlstar
• fascism
• force
• hardness
• harshness
• injury

• severity
• subjection
• torment
• abusiveness
• forcibleness
• iron hand
• martial law

• overthrowing
• subduing
• tyrrany
• More words related to oppression
• autocracy
• absolutism
• czarism

• despotism
• dictatorship

• monarchy
• monocracy

• oppression
• totalitarian government

• tyranny

 

[Max]

illogical step. govt should tell what wrong madrassa were teaching about Jihad and correct it.. Anyways your country your rules.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

And what oppression would be?

Ijma committee will declare that. Personal interpretation doesn't count...

 

[Mage]

Ijma committee will declare that. Personal interpretation doesn't count...

Why haven't they declared it yet? Are they not sure themselves?

Oppression
Synonyms for oppression
noun misery, hardship

• abuse
• brutality
• coercion
• cruelty
• despotism
• dictatorship
• domination

• injustice
• maltreatment
• persecution
• suffering
• autocracy
• calamity
• compulsion

• conquering
• controlstar
• fascism
• force
• hardness
• harshness
• injury

• severity
• subjection
• torment
• abusiveness
• forcibleness
• iron hand
• martial law

• overthrowing
• subduing
• tyrrany
• More words related to oppression
• autocracy
• absolutism
• czarism

• despotism
• dictatorship

• monarchy
• monocracy

• oppression
• totalitarian government

• tyranny

Now explain all the terms you have stated.. According to ijma or any Ulama or something.

 

[Banglar Bir]

What is ijma, qiyas, ijtehad ?
Mu' meneen Brothers and Sisters,
As Salaam Aleikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh. (May Allah's Peace, Mercy and Blessings be upon all of you)

One of our brothers/sisters has asked this question:
Assalam-o-Alaikum. Dear Brother Burhan. This time i am here with some matters which are causing much confusion to me.Please give early reply (as soon as possible ):

6. What is Ijma`a , Qayas ,Ijtehaad ??
Please give detailed and explicit replies to these questions.
Over to you with kind regards.

(There may be some grammatical and spelling errors in the above statement. The forum does not change anything from questions, comments and statements received from our readers for circulation in confidentiality.)
Answer:
What is ijma, qiyas, ijtehad ?
In the name of Allah, We praise Him, seek His help and ask for His forgiveness. Whoever Allah guides none can misguide, and whoever He allows to fall astray, none can guide them aright. We bear witness that there is no one (no idol, no person, no grave, no prophet, no imam, no dai,nobody!) worthy of worship but Allah Alone, and we bear witness that Muhammad(saws) is His slave-servant and the seal of His Messengers.

Ijmaa, Ijtehaad and Qiyaas are all terms used in Fiqh, Jurisprudence, Islamic Law or Shariah.

Ref: Ijmaa
Ijmaa is the term used for a opinion or command of Islam where all the good and respected scholars of Islam are unanimous in their ruling.

For example, there is Ijmaa amongst the scholars that there are five obligatory prayers, or that adhaan must be given before the prayers, or that a funeral prayer must be read over a deceased believer, or that swine is prohibited in Islam, etc.

Ref: Ijtehaad
The literal meaning of Ijtehaad is derived from the root word jehad or striving, to find a solution in light of the guidance of the Quran and Sunnah.

Ijtehaad is the process where the scholars of Islam strive to find a solution to an issue on which the Quran and Sunnah are silent. For example an issue of the modern times is : is it legal to pull off the life-support system of a brain-dead declared person?.

Because it is a new development of modern technology, the Quran and Sunnah are obviously silent on the issue. Thus the respected scholars of Islam must do ijtehaad and derive a ruling whether such a thing is permissible or impermissible in Islam, in light of the guidance of the Quran and Sunnah.

Ref: Qiyaas
Qiyaas is a term used when determining the root-cause of the process to do Ijtehaad. Qiyaas is a process whereby a clear ruling of the permissibility or impermissibility of an act or thing is applied to an issue closest related to it. For example, Allah and His Messenger (saws) have declared khamr (wine, alcohol, etc.) haraam. Now if someone were to ask for a ruling on the usage of marijuana, the scholars of Islam would do Qiyaas and determine the root cause of the haraam of khamr is its intoxication; thus all things that intoxicate would be considered haraam.Because the usage of marijuana intoxicates, it too would be considered haraam.

Whatever written of Truth and benefit is only due to Allahs Assistance and Guidance, and whatever of error is of me. Allah Alone Knows Best and He is the Only Source of Strength.
Your Brother in Islam

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Why haven't they declared it yet? Are they not sure themselves?

Maybe...

 

[Banglar Bir]

Up Yours.....

 

[Well.wisher]

I could reply to this in a way that it would cause discomfort to the Pakistani members reading it. However I'd do what honourable mods instructed to do and press the report button. Over to you @The Eagle

Yeah . Which coward will erase their religious teachings cause of the fear of some of the few extremists in their country?

 

[Mage]

Maybe...

Then that speaks for my point. Jihad is a controversial topic. And teaching it wrongly can be catastrophic. Thus leave it out of Syllabus.

Yeah . Which coward will erase their religious teachings cause of the fear of some of the few extremists in their country?

They might be few in number but can cause great damage. Considering what Pakistan has gone through should understand it by now. Besides extremism is an ideology. It can always gain followers. Thus it needs to be combated before the situation gets out of control.