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We hate Jamaat more than AL: Hamidi

We hate Jamaat more than AL: Hamidi - bdnews24.com

Kamal Talukder, bdnews24.com

Published: 2013-02-24 08:32:50.0 Updated: 2013-02-24 13:53:32.0
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Khilafat Andolon, one of the 12 small parties, admitted to be against the Shahbagh movement but refuted any ties with the Jamaat-e-Islami, stating ‘not even Awami League hates them (Jamaat) as much as we do’.

Khilafat Andolon’s Assistant Secretary General Mujibur Rahman Hamidi was speaking to bdnews24.com amidst their Sunday’s nationwide shutdown.

“There is no question of ties with Jamaat… We hate them (Jamaat) more than Awami League does,” he said.

“We know where our difference lies with them (Jamaat)… From deep inside our heart.”

Many Islamist parties have ideological differences with the Jamaat – the party that sided with Pakistan during the Liberation War of Bangladesh in 1971.

Protesters demanding capital punishment for war criminals alleged that anti-Shahbagh Jamaat was confusing other Islamist parties. The protesters are also demanding a ban on the Jamaat.

On Friday, ‘Islamists’ wreaked havoc across Bangladesh alleging that the Shahbagh protesters were out to ‘defame Islam’, which the demonstrators demanding capital punishment for war criminals have strongly denied. Police blame Jamaat for orchestrating Friday’s violence, which claimed four lives.

Sunday’s shutdown was called by the 12 small parties in protest against ‘obstructing’ their programme by the police.

Mujibur Rahman said they were not linked to Friday’s violence. “Khilafat Andolon did not cause this violence… However, there might be outsiders in such a big procession… They did it (violence).”

“Islam is not a religion of violence,” he said.

Although many pro-shutdown processions were visible on Sunday no activities of the small parties were noticed.

All shops beside the Kamrangir Char headquarters of the Khilafat Andolon in Dhaka were seen to be open as normalcy prevailed in capital Dhaka.

“We do not like the politics of violence… We observe peaceful shutdowns, “he said.

He alleged that although there were plans to bring out a procession from the party headquarters, but it didn’t happen in the face of police obstruction.

 

[Skies]

Civil Society in Perilous Muslim Democracies | The Platform

Unrest in the Middle East and South Asia highlights the essential role of a robust civil society in securing peace, and the turbulence that follows when the latter is less than adequate



The recent murder of a prominent human rights campaigner and opposition leader in Tunisia has rocked the country and opened up a serious crack in its fledgling democratic process. Far away from North Africa, the political upheaval in Bangladesh – over a flawed international tribunal trying Islamic leaders for alleged war crimes in 1971 – is pulling the country into a head-on collision between its secularist and Islamic camps. These are two historic Muslim countries with unique history, cultural background and social make up. But one common theme transcends both and, in fact, many other countries in Asia and Africa: it is their divided politics and chaotic civil society.

Civil society works as the eyes and ears of a nation: it must be politically conscious, but neutral or at least non-partisan. A forceful civil society defends the weak from the strong and poor from the rich; strengthening it is a continuous and creative endeavour and its successful continuity should never be taken for granted. Art, culture and public discourse are used to inform and educate citizens about their civic responsibilities and rights. The danger for any country, old or new democracy, is the polarisation of its politics and politicisation of its civil society.

For a robust civil society citizens do not necessarily have to be part of a big middle class or highly intellectual group. A culture of public duty and a drive for common good, justice and shared values are its allies; selfishness, partisanship and opportunism are its deadly enemy. Civil society often needs champions: individuals, institutions, or both. Martin Luther King in the US in the 1960s and Archbishop Tutu in South Africa today come to mind when thinking about individuals. Meanwhile, the historic Al-Zaytuna mosque in Tunisia and Al-Azhar University in Egypt – two of the oldest religious education institutions in the Muslim world – have played a unique ‘institutional’ role in creating strong civil society; they have the potential to do the same now in the conflict-stricken Middle East.

Civil society in developed democracies stubbornly takes both the government and the opposition to task. It remains highly alert in making sure citizens are not deprived of their rights, liberty and freedom by the powerful. Even if some errant politicians have temporary success in pushing the boundaries of power, such as President Bush Jr in the aftermath of 9/11, they are challenged tooth and nail by this ever-alive civil society. Through civil protests and ballot box, errors are either repaired or leadership is changed.

Sadly, civil society in many Muslim countries is not that effective. Over the last few decades only a handful of these nation-states have been able to cross the threshold of political peril and improve the socio-economic conditions of their people by means of representative governance and the rule of law. Although they have a long way to go, this is a positive sign.

On the other side of the spectrum, there are quite a few countries that are still at war with themselves; some lie under the long shadow of the ‘war on terror’, still going strong in the form of drone strikes and other actions. Perilous democracy is struggling to survive; politics is violently divided and civil society is embarrassingly weak in both Pakistan and Bangladesh, with their decades of intermittent democracy and military rule.

Pakistan’s failure to democratise itself ended up in a violent war of liberation by the-then East Pakistani people in 1971. Pakistan in recent times has been torn apart by another menace – religious violence – thanks to the ineffective central government, long-unresolved sectarian divisions, and the ‘war on terror’ that was unleashed in the aftermath of 9/11. Civil society has been too weak to cope.

Unfortunately, Bangladesh also followed its own style of flawed family-led democracy and military rule over the past four decades. Home to one-fifth of the world’s Muslim population, its economy has been growing well since the 1990s. But a vengeful politics under the current secularist government is putting the country in peril. Despite serious questions from the international community, including many judicial and human rights bodies, the current government has obstinately gone ahead with an ‘international crimes tribunal’ (without any international oversight) to punish alleged war of independence criminals who also happen to be political opponents from Islamic and nationalist parties). The ultra-secularist and leftist political partners of the ruling party, who dominate Bangladeshi civil society through the media and academia, and ruling party activists, are using their street power (with police support) to bring in capital punishment for opposition leaders who have been incarcerated for several years. A massive miscarriage of justice is now taking shape: whatever their crimes, this partisan approach to the rule of law – something critical to any healthily functioning civil society – may bring catastrophic consequences to the country and wide-ranging impact on its neighbours.

On the other hand Egypt and Tunisia, which are now being ruled by Islamic parties, are bogged down with their own crises: confrontation between ruling Islamic activists and a combination of secularists and supporters of the old regime. The real problem here is the clash between ultra-conservatives and ultra-secularists who are each vying for political gains. Sitting on these two extremes, anarchic forces are trying to derail the democratic process by street violence and destruction of national property. Again, the lack of a strong ‘civil society’ is being felt. However, there is a ray of hope. After weeks of violence, Egypt’s premier Islamic institution, Al-Azhar, has brought together the country’s rival political factions who pledged to work on halting violence.

In this maelstrom of re-birth, only constructive politics and political moderation from both Islamic and secular camps will safeguard democracy and protect these fledgling democracies from falling into further chaos.

 

[Al-zakir]

I would not say divided in half. People who wants to uphold Islamic value and aspiration much larger in percentage but they were and are largely silent except few we are seeing now. On the other hand people who are attacking Islam and plan to undermine Islamic values in disguise "secularism" and fsacism are small but they appear big because they get Awami leage regime and terror police support, media is controlled by them. These fascist nastik bunch also get support from external source like india and try to amplify their activity.

Yes, you are right. I meant to say divided between pro-Islam and against Islam.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Yes that may be the picture of earlier in the morning but this is the picture of later that day. Jamaati propaganda sites forgot that all media outlet also included pictures when they published the news...

Resistance, in silence
Shahbagh youths march through capital to defy hartal

Resistance, in silence

 

[kobiraaz]

Yes that may be the picture of earlier in the morning but this is the picture of later that day. Jamaati propaganda sites forgot that all media outlet also included pictures when they published the news...

Resistance, in silence
Shahbagh youths march through capital to defy hartal

Resistance, in silence

90% of Shahbag youths are political activist. I know that. I live there.

Plus size is insignifant now in front of this Huge Mullah crowd all over the country who hate SHAHBAG.

 

[Skies]

Why on earth have the mainstream Bangladeshis continuous time and energy for Shagbagh protest unless s/he is not an political activist?

Who can afford such time and energy for long time unless s/he is not an political activist??

Who in real life have time to find who is Jammati, or who is anti-Independence?

Do you search for anti-Independence people in your daily real life/job place??

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

90% of Shahbag youths are political activist. I know that. I live there.

Plus size is insignifant now in front of this Huge Mullah crowd all over the country who hate SHAHBAG.

This is the proof that shahbagh protesters were mainly ordinary citizens. But this mullah protest is done by different parties not by general public. This is the difference. This mullah protest will calm dowm gradually as all the Jamaati ploys are getting exposed. Shahbagh protest is not for banning islamic parties rather Jamaat-Shibir and other like minded parties. Regarding atheist blogger you will find plenty of them in Shahbagh protest and outside of shahbagh protest. Best part should be to ignore them as they always seek attention. This way they and their rant on their blogs will die gradually as people wont pay attention to them. Just closing down some of the blogs is not viable now a days as they will open more new page or blogs. If they violated any law they can be taken to the court for that.

 

[Skies]

I can see that all parties from small to big can gather huge people as we have no dearth of population.

But the Shabagh size has dwindled.

 

[idune]

This is the proof that shahbagh protesters were mainly ordinary citizens. But this mullah protest is done by different parties not by general public. This is the difference.

You tried to pass Awami League appointed fake like Shamim Afzal a know hater of Islam as "Islamic thinker", that shows credibility of your statments. Now on shahbagh mob that are orchestrated with and supported by Awami League and its terror security forces. Where as, protest against Islamic value from all walks of life faced bullet, granade, gas, water cannon and unprecedented terror from Awami Leage police, RAB, BDR and Awami cadres. Your attempt to boast shahbagh number (which is proven to be miniscule in comparison) is showing sheer bankrupcy in your logic and in morals.

90% of Shahbag youths are political activist. I know that. I live there.

Plus size is insignifant now in front of this Huge Mullah crowd all over the country who hate SHAHBAG.

Not only they are Awami and commie activist they are paid and fed by Awami League and its machinary. While Awami League police, RAB, NSI, and even BDR protecting these small crowd as showpiece.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

You tried to pass Awami League appointed fake like Shamim Afzal a know hater of Islam as "Islamic thinker", that shows credibility of your statments. Now on shahbagh mob that are orchestrated with and supported by Awami League and its terror security forces. Where as, protest against Islamic value from all walks of life faced bullet, granade, gas, water cannon and unprecedented terror from Awami Leage police, RAB, BDR and Awami cadres. Your attempt to boast shahbagh number (which is proven to be miniscule in comparison) is showing sheer bankrupcy in your logic and in morals.



Not only they are Awami and commie activist they are paid and fed by Awami League and its machinary. While Awami League police, RAB, NSI, and even BDR protecting these small crowd as showpiece.

Ohh yes all are paid by Awami League.... I have never seen any shameless people who can lie so bluntly despite being exposed fully jut few days ago... Not to mention Bangladeshis from around the world showed their support and support to the Shahbagh Movement..Now if you want to remain in your own lala land no one can help you on that.

Lastly if you brand anyone as Islamic hater he does not become one.

Go revisit the site if your memory is so weak....

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/233660-shahbagh-square-new-rise.html
@WebMaster can you please reopen the thread as this movement is still ongoing and as this thread attracted one of the highest comment in Bangladesh Defence section. Also considering the fact that this thread was closed and reopened again. I personally see no reason to keep the thread closed. Thank you.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

University of South Carolina's student composed this song instantly to show solidarity with Shahbagh movement...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=507817332594685

 

[idune]

Empty street, station says all about overwhelming rejction Awami League lead attack on Islamic value in Bangladesh.

It is rather disturbing that Awami League deployed BDR to escort passanger bus in Dhaka while indian BSF killing and abducting Bangladeshis at border.

 

[Straight]

This is the proof that shahbagh protesters were mainly ordinary citizens. But this mullah protest is done by different parties not by general public. This is the difference. This mullah protest will calm dowm gradually as all the Jamaati ploys are getting exposed. Shahbagh protest is not for banning islamic parties rather Jamaat-Shibir and other like minded parties. Regarding atheist blogger you will find plenty of them in Shahbagh protest and outside of shahbagh protest. Best part should be to ignore them as they always seek attention. This way they and their rant on their blogs will die gradually as people wont pay attention to them. Just closing down some of the blogs is not viable now a days as they will open more new page or blogs. If they violated any law they can be taken to the court for that.

Dont' you find serious holes in your above wishful thinking ? Such as:

1. Ulema & General public rose strongly to protest as they found that Shahbagis are led by a nexus of athiests (both political apolitical) and all those are trying to conceal all faults / real national issuse of BAL (Killing of BDR officers, Share-market looting, Price spiralling of essential commodities + Power, Crises in Gas & Power supply + Scandal in Rentals + Bank & MLM robbery in collusion with BAL stalwarts etc. etc.----by re-directing mass-attention to WC issue, and also conspiring to ban 'Islamic' politics, and leading our youths to wrong & hateful direction.

2. Ulema & General Public may forgot the names of bloggers in few days but, over a life-time, what they will not 'PM very fondly glorified a fallen blogger (by unknown assailants) with unprecdented speed & focus. And therefore, its is not few bloggers but BAL's & Govt's immense deceitful support to them. You can now ignore the bloggers conveniently , but what you should not not is BAL's entire mischief that has been etched like picture in Ulema's and peoples' mind---not to be erased soon.

3. To judge who will attract 'bigger' crowd----just allow a space for BNP-JI / or even Ulema (without any assault) to erect a mancha somewhere in the city---no need of food, Cold Water, Toilets, Circus party w/ female entertainers or even media support. Then please count the heads if you can.

LET BNP- JI-ALL FOCUS LESS ON 'aetheist-non atheist' issue---which Shahbagis & BAL WANT US TO DO, and encourage to go to court etc.---but MORE ON THE REAL-LIFE NATIONAL ISSUES THAT ARE SHIFTING AWAY FROM LIMELIGHT.

 

[Al-zakir]

Dont' you find serious holes in your above wishful thinking ? Such as:

1. Ulema & General public rose strongly to protest as they found that Shahbagis are led by a nexus of athiests (both political apolitical) and all those are trying to conceal all faults / real national issuse of BAL (Killing of BDR officers, Share-market looting, Price spiralling of essential commodities + Power, Crises in Gas & Power supply + Scandal in Rentals + Bank & MLM robbery in collusion with BAL stalwarts etc. etc.----by re-directing mass-attention to WC issue, and also conspiring to ban 'Islamic' politics, and leading our youths to wrong & hateful direction.

2. Ulema & General Public may forgot the names of bloggers in few days but, over a life-time, what they will not 'PM very fondly glorified a fallen blogger (by unknown assailants) with unprecdented speed & focus. And therefore, its is not few bloggers but BAL's & Govt's immense deceitful support to them. You can now ignore the bloggers conveniently , but what you should not not is BAL's entire mischief that has been etched like picture in Ulema's and peoples' mind---not to be erased soon.

3. To judge who will attract 'bigger' crowd----just allow a space for BNP-JI / or even Ulema (without any assault) to erect a mancha somewhere in the city---no need of food, Cold Water, Toilets, Circus party w/ female entertainers or even media support. Then please count the heads if you can.

LET BNP- JI-ALL FOCUS LESS ON 'aetheist-non atheist' issue---which Shahbagis & BAL WANT US TO DO, and encourage to go to court etc.---but MORE ON THE REAL-LIFE NATIONAL ISSUES THAT ARE SHIFTING AWAY FROM LIMELIGHT.

Welcome back Sir. It's has been long time. I hope things are OK around you.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Dont' you find serious holes in your above wishful thinking ? Such as:

1. Ulema & General public rose strongly to protest as they found that Shahbagis are led by a nexus of athiests (both political apolitical) and all those are trying to conceal all faults / real national issuse of BAL (Killing of BDR officers, Share-market looting, Price spiralling of essential commodities + Power, Crises in Gas & Power supply + Scandal in Rentals + Bank & MLM robbery in collusion with BAL stalwarts etc. etc.----by re-directing mass-attention to WC issue, and also conspiring to ban 'Islamic' politics, and leading our youths to wrong & hateful direction.

2. Ulema & General Public may forgot the names of bloggers in few days but, over a life-time, what they will not 'PM very fondly glorified a fallen blogger (by unknown assailants) with unprecdented speed & focus. And therefore, its is not few bloggers but BAL's & Govt's immense deceitful support to them. You can now ignore the bloggers conveniently , but what you should not not is BAL's entire mischief that has been etched like picture in Ulema's and peoples' mind---not to be erased soon.

3. To judge who will attract 'bigger' crowd----just allow a space for BNP-JI / or even Ulema (without any assault) to erect a mancha somewhere in the city---no need of food, Cold Water, Toilets, Circus party w/ female entertainers or even media support. Then please count the heads if you can.

LET BNP- JI-ALL FOCUS LESS ON 'aetheist-non atheist' issue---which Shahbagis & BAL WANT US TO DO, and encourage to go to court etc.---but MORE ON THE REAL-LIFE NATIONAL ISSUES THAT ARE SHIFTING AWAY FROM LIMELIGHT.

Whatever crime, bribery, looting etc. so far done by BAL has not been appreciated anybody. They will pay for it in the next election. In the meantime it is national demand to hang the war criminals and it is long over due and there is no question about it. It is betterment of the BNP to support the hanging of these Jamaati war criminals and it will stop BAL from using 71 and war crime issue all the time and help BNP to focus all other mistakes which has been done by BAL. BNP knows well the importance of war crime issue thats why they are completely silent in this case. But the drama that Jamaat is trying to play here is just giving BAL the excuse to focus public attention more into the war crime issue from it's numerous failure. Lastly regarding mancha if it is not for saving the war criminal cause hardly government can do anything about it. Not to mention Amardesh editor already said that BNP is suffering huge loss for siding with Jamaat and vacating street and handing over the control to Jmaat. But BNP are not angels either. We have seen how much corrupt they are and thats why they lost the election miserably last time. This cycle is ongoing for the last 23 years but not likely anything will improve even if BNP comes to power. Same amount of looting, crime and corruption will still be there.