Bangladesh bans Maududi's books in mosques

[Patriot]

yes that is correct humanfist.

 

[M_Saint]

Maududiat does not represent Islam. His ideology was affected mainly communist revolutions and Qutbism and Maudidiat are the foundation fo politcal Islam which has become the biggest problem for muslims today. This interpretation is completely against traditional Islam and many traditional Islamic scholars have refuted his ideology and concepts.
However,there are other works he has written about Islam in general or against communism which are fine. It is his using of Islam as a politcal tool that many traditional scholars disagree with.

Rather than banning outright, his ideas should be debated and debunked. Traditional Islamic scholars in the light of Quran and Sunnah should show the wrong interpretations and emphasize the problems that ithas caused for muslims today. However, if its just a withdrawal from govertnment mosques that is a different story.

Pertinent to note that Maududi was never a graduate from any Dar-ul-ullom orIslamic school. Also interesting to note was just a few months back. Jammat Islami Hind in India stated that even though Maududi had founded their organisation, theyno longer follow his philosophy and ideas but rathr the Quran and Sunnah.

First Off, there isn't any such thing call Maududiat/ism or Maududibad. Maulana Maududi didn't invent anything like Markx or Einstine. He simply helped to open up the potential of Islam that was always there. And there wasn't any such thing call Political or Militant Islam either. Veneering with Indian Flag and preaching falsehood as Muslims wasn't BD-JI or Maududi's philisophy thus his readers/followers gave up on Bharati-nationalism, the core of it lied in idolotry, class struggle. 2ndly what traditional Islam were you talking about? Deobondis that looked like more sikhs but didn't prohibit eating cow meat? Your absolute gibberish and non-sensical statement demonstrated that you didn't know anything about Islam that defied tradition or custom or tribaliary and accepted rationalism and justness. Now tell me a single name that has surpassed Maududi's write-ups on Islamic potential on economy, society and politics in our sub-continet, would you?

If Maududi's write-ups were the causes of all ills then why going after Afghans or Iraqis or Somalis or Pakistanis? Your mask isn't off as you Indian hasn't completed Hizrat from Malaun run's land. Do it first to know what potential lies in it. Just a small message to you though, Charchil once commented that the world divided into two camps, one was Islam and the other was Non. So, you see why Commie, pseudo secular, Bharati-Muslims got into same wagon to kill Muslims that showed potential?


Now you would show me in what part of Quoran said that you needed to be Madrassa educated to be a Islamic scholar? And what graduate was Mohammad(PUBH)? Or you Bharati-Muslim (Ahem) would call him similar as Maududi now?

 

[greatsequence]

i am Big fan of Maududi , I have read lot of his books.
any one can prove any thing wrong about Him?

Read his Tafseer of Quran 'Tafheem Ul Quran', Then you will see how good he was.

Have you even read anyone else. Problem with maududi was that he borrowed heavily from Syed Qutub of ikhwan ul muslimeen. Both of them have radicalised masses to the extent that now if an aalim speaks anything else on political matters he is straight away an agent of leftist and jews.

 

[greatsequence]

First Off, there isn't any such thing call Maududiat/ism or Maududibad. Maulana Maududi didn't invent anything like Markx or Einstine. He simply helped to open up the potential of Islam that was always there. And there wasn't any such thing call Political or Militant Islam either. Veneering with Indian Flag and preaching falsehood as Muslims wasn't BD-JI or Maududi's philisophy thus his readers/followers gave up on Bharati-nationalism, the core of it lied in idolotry, class struggle. 2ndly what traditional Islam were you talking about? Deobondis that looked like more sikhs but didn't prohibit eating cow meat? Your absolute gibberish and non-sensical statement demonstrated that you didn't know anything about Islam that defied tradition or custom or tribaliary and accepted rationalism and justness. Now tell me a single name that has surpassed Maududi's write-ups on Islamic potential on economy, society and politics in our sub-continet, would you?

If Maududi's write-ups were the causes of all ills then why going after Afghans or Iraqis or Somalis or Pakistanis? Your mask isn't off as you Indian hasn't completed Hizrat from Malaun run's land. Do it first to know what potential lies in it. Just a small message to you though, Charchil once commented that the world divided into two camps, one was Islam and the other was Non. So, you see why Commie, pseudo secular, Bharati-Muslims got into same wagon to kill Muslims that showed potential?


Now you would show me in what part of Quoran said that you needed to be Madrassa educated to be a Islamic scholar? And what graduate was Mohammad(PUBH)? Or you Bharati-Muslim (Ahem) would call him similar as Maududi now?

Harsh words for Deobandis. I have seen jamatis now preferring "Maarif ul quran" instead of Tafheem ul quran. Jamtis are even calling the same in Pakistan that they dont follow maududi completely but Quran and Sunnah and I am sure they would be saying that in Banglades.

The real story is Maududis philosphy is not the traditional islamic thought and is already dying I dont see it will pass the test of time.

 

[EjazR]

M_Saint

I will ignore all the name calling andflase accusations you have put.

Tell me where in the Quran it says that muslims are suppose to establish an "Islamic" state? ..Nowhere

Forget Deobandis (and I never mentioned anything to do with Deoband anyways, Dar ul ulooom is a general term) even the much maligned Wahabbi scholars in Saudi ARabia oppose this.

Also check out this thread or atleast this post and go throught it to have your doubts clear. Ofcourse that is only possible if you are going to look at it with open mind.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...wered-questions-case-pakistan.html#post550583

 

[Martian]

Have you even read anyone else. Problem with maududi was that he borrowed heavily from Syed Qutub of ikhwan ul muslimeen. Both of them have radicalised masses to the extent that now if an aalim speaks anything else on political matters he is straight away an agent of leftist and jews.

Maududi was a non-Madrassa alim, a self-taught one. Allama Iqbal invited Maududi to establish his base in Punjab. Works of Hassan al-Banna preceeded Maududi. Syed Qutub came into light much later (before 1965 when he was hanged). However, there is much overlap of ideology between Jamaat and Ikhwan.

What the masses will do when there is no avenue for democracy, rule of law and justice. In Egypt, there is military rule since 1953. And before that there was king and british. Under those conditions anone will be radiclised. These extreme conditions have given way to takfiri groups. Only open socities will keep people away from extremes not banning books. If jaamat is cornered in BD what options they will have to survive.

Banning of some books is a crude form of defence and it shows that AL is logically weak to discredit it.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

BBC News, Dhaka


The government wants to curb the Jamaat-e-Islami party The Bangladeshi government has ordered mosques and libraries across the country to remove all books written by a controversial Islamic scholar.

The chief of the government-funded Islamic Foundation told the BBC that the books by Syed Abul Ala Maududi encouraged "militancy and terrorism".

I have a question over here if Syed Abul Ala Maududi really encouraged "militancy and terrorism" as described by the chief of the government-funded Islamic Foundation than why his books were not removed in all the previous years??? When awami league was in power or just after 9/11???

I am not fan of jamat but what I am seeing here an intentional revenge by awami league for their election defeat at 2001 election. In other word you can say it political opression.

Today in one of the news paper I read one of the awami league minister asked to say his/her supporter, if any one try to defend jamati leader just say them "TUI RAJAKAR". Can you accuse any one until it is proven that you are guilty??

 

[idune]

Shibir cadres, JMB, HUJI who are caught by police found with translation of Moududi books.

I am not a fan of the way Jamaat conduct its place in Bangladesh national politics but I will point out and challenge followings.

First, Shibir (jamaat student wing) are completely different organization than JMB and HUJI. JMB and HUJI are indian creation, armed and funded by indians.

Second, just finding Moududi's book does not mean one is associated with terrorism. If that is the case then indians are biggest Nazi followers in the world as hitler book has been so popular among indians.

Third, real terror is running by Awami student wing chatra league. Looting, raping, extorting and killing people everyday. But Awami thugs are accusing others for crime they are committing today.

 

[greatsequence]

I have a question over here if Syed Abul Ala Maududi really encouraged "militancy and terrorism" as described by the chief of the government-funded Islamic Foundation than why his books were not removed in all the previous years??? When awami league was in power or just after 9/11???

I am not fan of jamat but what I am seeing here an intentional revenge by awami league for their election defeat at 2001 election. In other word you can say it political opression.

Today in one of the news paper I read one of the awami league minister asked to say his/her supporter, if any one try to defend jamati leader just say them "TUI RAJAKAR". Can you accuse any one until it is proven that you are guilty??

I totally agree with you it is a political opression and I mentioned it in my initial post but the debate has moved to maududis idealogy.

 

[M_Saint]

M_Saint

I will ignore all the name calling andflase accusations you have put.

Tell me where in the Quran it says that muslims are suppose to establish an "Islamic" state? ..Nowhere

Forget Deobandis (and I never mentioned anything to do with Deoband anyways, Dar ul ulooom is a general term) even the much maligned Wahabbi scholars in Saudi ARabia oppose this.

Also check out this thread or atleast this post and go throught it to have your doubts clear. Ofcourse that is only possible if you are going to look at it with open mind.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...wered-questions-case-pakistan.html#post550583

There wasn't a nation state during Mohammad's (PUBH) prophecy, so side tracking my questions and then asking where QURAN asked to build "Islamic State" was more of the deviation from the core of the discussion. But Rasul (PUBH) definitely established something synoymous to "Islamic State" in Madina, from where he spreaded Islam. If Rasul (PUBH) didn't establish Islamic rule then Islam wouldn't become a global religion/lifestyle. JI follwed RASUL'S (PUBH) model with moderfnity that was timely and got accepted by honest and rational people, who looked for alternative of colonial slaveries but not what Maulana Wahiduddin Khan wrote in the link. BTW, I read about him taking award from Gorvachev and remembered the face of RAMZAN KADIROB too taking award from Putin, the Chechen's terminators. His Ghiberrish in the line of Indian Invadors was simply like pan cake to eat but didn't find anything out of ordinary, especially knowing Malaun-Indian's anhilating scheme of Muslims. It was amazing to see how sold outs lied with eloquence to sell their master's agenda like Tableaguis originated from IND preached fake stories of sacrifice to make Muslims become Saynnasis by calling for going to Chilla. Contrary to their actions JI created group of educated, skilled youths, professionals that possessed Islamic zeal and pursued righteousness.

Your citation of Wahabi scholar was also Indian invention that took Saudi Medias over and spreaded the falsehood of those scholars to create division among Muslims. I've a suggestion for you, stop calling you as Indian-Muslim as it is forbidden in Islam to ideolize any statehood or personality then you can free-up yourself to taste more out there than Indian Pan cakes.

 

[M_Saint]

I have a question over here if Syed Abul Ala Maududi really encouraged "militancy and terrorism" as described by the chief of the government-funded Islamic Foundation than why his books were not removed in all the previous years??? When awami league was in power or just after 9/11???

I am not fan of jamat but what I am seeing here an intentional revenge by awami league for their election defeat at 2001 election. In other word you can say it political opression.

Today in one of the news paper I read one of the awami league minister asked to say his/her supporter, if any one try to defend jamati leader just say them "TUI RAJAKAR". Can you accuse any one until it is proven that you are guilty??

Friend/Brother,

Asnwer of your questions could be found in the following links if you know how to read Bengali,

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[EjazR]

M_Saint

Sorry you are not making any sense. where did Tablighis come from? And where JI come from? And in my first post I mentioned that JI-Hind has publicly stated that they don't follow Maududi's philosphy and concept of "establishing Islamic state". And what I told about Wahabbi scholars, its been stated since the 80s by them. And what does Indian media have to do with any of this anyways. They don't follow such theological discussions. Most of your post is all offtopic. Not only that, the same is repeated by scholars in Egypt, Turkey, Indonesia and any other traditional Islamic school.

The only reason why this ideology gained currency was because of extensive support during the cold war by the US and Saudi Arabia to counter communism. Otherwise this was always a fringe ideologyandnot part of the mainstream traditional Islamic thought. Like I said, you have to have an open mind.

 

[Old School]

The ongoing crackdown on JI in Bangladesh is being closely monitored by the GoP as a test case. Given JIB is the largest chapter among all the JIM in the world, this test case is very significant. GoP is likely to follow the same path in Pakistan cracking down on political Islam if this suppression of militancy turns out to be a success in Bangladesh without facing much opposition. The core vision of the current government in Islamabad is not so different than the one in Dhaka at this moment which is to suppress fundamentalism and create a secular welfare state that benefits the citizen while keeping the neighbour in peace. We support this much needed move by Dhaka.

 

[Waffen SS]

For some Pakistani Fans of Maudoodi

Sorry to those members who can't read Urdu

 

[EgO Boy]

Good.. we need to get those junk cleaned up in soonest possible time...

Did u ever read even a single so called junk in ur junk life, before commenting.