BAF signs contract with China for K-8W jet trainer aircraft

[bluesky]

Jealous, haha

K of K-8 stands for the Karakorum. BD version should be renamed as, for example, J-8. J stands for Jamuna.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

But why China though ? As per Pakistani defense experts here K8 is Pakistani trainer.

You ok? I never commented on this thread so how come you quoted me?

 

[Michael Corleone]

Tell me buddy, is there one other country in this forum or anywhere else that spent all that massive litany of threads upon threads of "confirmed acquisition" leading to (now finally confirmed) zero result?

You guys set this up...short sweet reality came in the end....as it always does to this complex you guys have or striving for STRONK and ending in the muck ...watch it happen again and again. Like those people here that were screaming BD will shoot down the very next Myanmar airforce plane/heli that violates blah blah.....and that BAF in just a few years time (or less) will be bombing Arakan targets and even Yangon ....because Su-30/F-16/gripen/Mig-35/JF-17/J-10/ABC-123 are just around the corner etc etc

Instead your manifest BD destiny schmuck-lady took her rohingya back nice and silently (after STRONK clamouring first to not take them), imports rice from Burma and sheds some fake tears....and you will all "vote" for her for that "stability" yet again lol....coz kangaroo court STRONK and electricity STRONK.

You expect such a place to have some active military acquisition strategy that will make a lick of difference in first place to its inherent nature?

if i want, i can release all info here and i can get you sources too with enough credibility of the plans.... but i myself don't intend to talk about whatever little i've come to know.... i understand some bd members here are living in a fantasy world but that doesn't make it right to encourage their behaviour by your constant trolling of each and every thread whether good or bad.... so please.... stop it

 

[Aasimkhan]

K of K-8 stands for the Karakorum. BD version should be renamed as, for example, J-8. J stands for Jamuna.

K stands for Korakuram because the manufacturers and designers (in this case Pakistan and China) so desired/decided. You can name your plane Jamuna (or any other fancy name you want to give it) when you are capable of designing and manufacturing planes.

 

[Bilal9]

K stands for Korakuram because the manufacturers and designers (in this case Pakistan and China) so desired/decided. You can name your plane Jamuna (or any other fancy name you want to give it) when you are capable of designing and manufacturing planes.

Thank you for saying this as I was going to do the same.

You will see lots of strange 'captain-obvious' posts from false-flaggers in this section of the forum.

 

[UKBengali]

if i want, i can release all info here and i can get you sources too with enough credibility of the plans.... but i myself don't intend to talk about whatever little i've come to know.... i understand some bd members here are living in a fantasy world but that doesn't make it right to encourage their behaviour by your constant trolling of each and every thread whether good or bad.... so please.... stop it

Dude, why are you begging this Tamil retard to stop?
You are handing him power.
Just attack him where it hurts and carry on with discussion.

As for BD members living in a fantasy world, the older ones are playing a game you may not yet understand. Sometimes it is best to aim high, even if the end result is a little lower.

 

[Nilgiri]

i understand some bd members here are living in a fantasy world

When they stop being the majority here, I will pause to re-evaluate.

Till then this will have to be the old testament policy vs the new testament one.

Good ones like you will be caught up in it, sorry about it....but you will have to simply choose your confrontations wisely with both sides.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Dude, why are you begging this Tamil retard to stop?
You are handing him power.
Just attack him where it hurts and carry on with discussion.

As for BD members living in a fantasy world, the older ones are playing a game you may not yet understand. Sometimes it is best to aim high, even if the end result is a little lower.

When they stop being the majority here, I will pause to re-evaluate.

Till then this will have to be the old testament policy vs the new testament one.

Good ones like you will be caught up in it, sorry about it....but you will have to simply choose your confrontations wisely with both sides.

here is your response @Nilgiri so now stop going offtopic

 

[LKJ86]

Bangladesh’s New Military Deal With China
Bangladesh’s purchase of K-8W aircraft has sparked some controversy at home.

By Shakil Bin Mushtaq
June 27, 2018

A new contract has been signed that will see China deliver 23 units of Hongdu K-8W intermediate training jets to the Bangladesh Air Force (BAF). The deal was sealed on June 20 at the Bangladesh Air Force Headquarters in Dhaka. Bangladesh’s newly appointed Air Force chief was present at the signing ceremony along with China’s ambassador in Bangladesh. BAF did not disclose the total amount of the deal, but a source told The Diplomat that it’s more than $200 million.

The light attack-cum-jet trainer is now being used by the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (as its domestic variant, the JL-8), Pakistan Air Force, Egyptian Air Force, Myanmar Air Force, and Bangladesh Air Force, among others.

This deal marks the second phase of Bangladesh’s K-8W fleet. Bangladesh has been using this aircraft since September 2014, when the first batch of four units of K-8Ws was inducted into the service. BAF sources say that the K-8Ws will be replacing the aged Cessna T-37s fleet. There are also plans to buy 16 units of the Russian Yak-130 to replace the T-37.

Why the K-8W? In 2010, Myanmar purchased 50 units of the K-8W, which put the BAF under pressure to also buy more training jets to advance its capability and quantity. The K-8W will prepare pilots to operate the service frontline fleet of China-made Chengdu and Mig-29 fighters.

In addition, the K-8W and another training aircraft of the BAF, the Aero L39 Albatros developed by the former Czechoslovakia, use the same engine. The Ivchenko Al-25 is a widely used twin-shaft medium bypass turbofan engine developed by the former Soviet Union. The BAF will be seriously considering maintainability and spare part issues based on its budget.

Meanwhile, there is some side talk in different defense blog sites that the BAF may be making a mistake by buying more training aircraft instead of developing a good fighter inventory. A source in the BAF, when asked about that argument, said that the K-8W deal was part of the country’s Forces Goal 2030 – even if the details pertaining to that part of the plan haven’t been publicized. At the moment BAF needs to build a decent number of jet trainers, he argued, and more attack fighters are coming soon. He also mentioned that a squadron of multirole jet fighters will be visible shortly, but the model and country of origin is still classified.

The criticism started as Bangladesh currently has fewer than 45 fighter jets but has 51 jet training aircraft. The new fleet of K-8Ws will increase the number of trainers. However, the BAF source said that a large number of old training jets will be retired soon, so this procurement is no “fun” but a very “timely need.”

According to the publicly available data of Forces Goal 2030, the BAF will set up an advance fighter pilot training unit named “105 Advance Jet Training Unit.” The unit will consist of three training squadrons, which will provide advanced training to the pilots selected for operating fighter jets.

Overall, Forces Goal 2030 plans to make the Bangladesh Air Force a technologically advanced, well-trained, and well-equipped force that can deter any threat to Bangladeshi airspace. These plans emphasize strengthening both air power and air defense capabilities. To efficiently perform the increasing duties and responsibilities, the air force is being divided into two separate commands, “Southern Air Command” and “Northern Air Command.” Two new airbases have been already set up — one at Cox’s Bazar and Bangabandhu airbase at Dhaka, with plans to modernize and expand the Cox’s Bazar air base. A new air base and a maritime air support operation center (MASOC) are being set up under Southern Air Command at Barisal to ensure maritime security. Another air base is under construction at Sylhet.

Shakil Bin Mushtaq is a Bangladesh born journalist and author.

Source:https://thediplomat.com/2018/06/bangladeshs-new-military-deal-with-china/

Bangladesh’s New Military Deal With China
Bangladesh’s purchase of K-8W aircraft has sparked some controversy at home.

By Shakil Bin Mushtaq
June 27, 2018

A new contract has been signed that will see China deliver 23 units of Hongdu K-8W intermediate training jets to the Bangladesh Air Force (BAF). The deal was sealed on June 20 at the Bangladesh Air Force Headquarters in Dhaka. Bangladesh’s newly appointed Air Force chief was present at the signing ceremony along with China’s ambassador in Bangladesh. BAF did not disclose the total amount of the deal, but a source told The Diplomat that it’s more than $200 million.

The light attack-cum-jet trainer is now being used by the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (as its domestic variant, the JL-8), Pakistan Air Force, Egyptian Air Force, Myanmar Air Force, and Bangladesh Air Force, among others.

This deal marks the second phase of Bangladesh’s K-8W fleet. Bangladesh has been using this aircraft since September 2014, when the first batch of four units of K-8Ws was inducted into the service. BAF sources say that the K-8Ws will be replacing the aged Cessna T-37s fleet. There are also plans to buy 16 units of the Russian Yak-130 to replace the T-37.

Why the K-8W? In 2010, Myanmar purchased 50 units of the K-8W, which put the BAF under pressure to also buy more training jets to advance its capability and quantity. The K-8W will prepare pilots to operate the service frontline fleet of China-made Chengdu and Mig-29 fighters.

In addition, the K-8W and another training aircraft of the BAF, the Aero L39 Albatros developed by the former Czechoslovakia, use the same engine. The Ivchenko Al-25 is a widely used twin-shaft medium bypass turbofan engine developed by the former Soviet Union. The BAF will be seriously considering maintainability and spare part issues based on its budget.

Meanwhile, there is some side talk in different defense blog sites that the BAF may be making a mistake by buying more training aircraft instead of developing a good fighter inventory. A source in the BAF, when asked about that argument, said that the K-8W deal was part of the country’s Forces Goal 2030 – even if the details pertaining to that part of the plan haven’t been publicized. At the moment BAF needs to build a decent number of jet trainers, he argued, and more attack fighters are coming soon. He also mentioned that a squadron of multirole jet fighters will be visible shortly, but the model and country of origin is still classified.

The criticism started as Bangladesh currently has fewer than 45 fighter jets but has 51 jet training aircraft. The new fleet of K-8Ws will increase the number of trainers. However, the BAF source said that a large number of old training jets will be retired soon, so this procurement is no “fun” but a very “timely need.”

According to the publicly available data of Forces Goal 2030, the BAF will set up an advance fighter pilot training unit named “105 Advance Jet Training Unit.” The unit will consist of three training squadrons, which will provide advanced training to the pilots selected for operating fighter jets.

Overall, Forces Goal 2030 plans to make the Bangladesh Air Force a technologically advanced, well-trained, and well-equipped force that can deter any threat to Bangladeshi airspace. These plans emphasize strengthening both air power and air defense capabilities. To efficiently perform the increasing duties and responsibilities, the air force is being divided into two separate commands, “Southern Air Command” and “Northern Air Command.” Two new airbases have been already set up — one at Cox’s Bazar and Bangabandhu airbase at Dhaka, with plans to modernize and expand the Cox’s Bazar air base. A new air base and a maritime air support operation center (MASOC) are being set up under Southern Air Command at Barisal to ensure maritime security. Another air base is under construction at Sylhet.

Shakil Bin Mushtaq is a Bangladesh born journalist and author.

Source:https://thediplomat.com/2018/06/bangladeshs-new-military-deal-with-china/

In fact, the number is less than 10.

 

[Avicenna]

Bangladesh’s New Military Deal With China
Bangladesh’s purchase of K-8W aircraft has sparked some controversy at home.

By Shakil Bin Mushtaq
June 27, 2018

A new contract has been signed that will see China deliver 23 units of Hongdu K-8W intermediate training jets to the Bangladesh Air Force (BAF). The deal was sealed on June 20 at the Bangladesh Air Force Headquarters in Dhaka. Bangladesh’s newly appointed Air Force chief was present at the signing ceremony along with China’s ambassador in Bangladesh. BAF did not disclose the total amount of the deal, but a source told The Diplomat that it’s more than $200 million.

The light attack-cum-jet trainer is now being used by the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (as its domestic variant, the JL-8), Pakistan Air Force, Egyptian Air Force, Myanmar Air Force, and Bangladesh Air Force, among others.

This deal marks the second phase of Bangladesh’s K-8W fleet. Bangladesh has been using this aircraft since September 2014, when the first batch of four units of K-8Ws was inducted into the service. BAF sources say that the K-8Ws will be replacing the aged Cessna T-37s fleet. There are also plans to buy 16 units of the Russian Yak-130 to replace the T-37.

Why the K-8W? In 2010, Myanmar purchased 50 units of the K-8W, which put the BAF under pressure to also buy more training jets to advance its capability and quantity. The K-8W will prepare pilots to operate the service frontline fleet of China-made Chengdu and Mig-29 fighters.

In addition, the K-8W and another training aircraft of the BAF, the Aero L39 Albatros developed by the former Czechoslovakia, use the same engine. The Ivchenko Al-25 is a widely used twin-shaft medium bypass turbofan engine developed by the former Soviet Union. The BAF will be seriously considering maintainability and spare part issues based on its budget.

Meanwhile, there is some side talk in different defense blog sites that the BAF may be making a mistake by buying more training aircraft instead of developing a good fighter inventory. A source in the BAF, when asked about that argument, said that the K-8W deal was part of the country’s Forces Goal 2030 – even if the details pertaining to that part of the plan haven’t been publicized. At the moment BAF needs to build a decent number of jet trainers, he argued, and more attack fighters are coming soon. He also mentioned that a squadron of multirole jet fighters will be visible shortly, but the model and country of origin is still classified.

The criticism started as Bangladesh currently has fewer than 45 fighter jets but has 51 jet training aircraft. The new fleet of K-8Ws will increase the number of trainers. However, the BAF source said that a large number of old training jets will be retired soon, so this procurement is no “fun” but a very “timely need.”

According to the publicly available data of Forces Goal 2030, the BAF will set up an advance fighter pilot training unit named “105 Advance Jet Training Unit.” The unit will consist of three training squadrons, which will provide advanced training to the pilots selected for operating fighter jets.

Overall, Forces Goal 2030 plans to make the Bangladesh Air Force a technologically advanced, well-trained, and well-equipped force that can deter any threat to Bangladeshi airspace. These plans emphasize strengthening both air power and air defense capabilities. To efficiently perform the increasing duties and responsibilities, the air force is being divided into two separate commands, “Southern Air Command” and “Northern Air Command.” Two new airbases have been already set up — one at Cox’s Bazar and Bangabandhu airbase at Dhaka, with plans to modernize and expand the Cox’s Bazar air base. A new air base and a maritime air support operation center (MASOC) are being set up under Southern Air Command at Barisal to ensure maritime security. Another air base is under construction at Sylhet.

Shakil Bin Mushtaq is a Bangladesh born journalist and author.

Source:https://thediplomat.com/2018/06/bangladeshs-new-military-deal-with-china/


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In fact, the number is less than 10.

Looks like somebody's been reading PDF.

@Nilgiri Your a star!

 

[Nilgiri]

Looks like somebody's been reading PDF.

@Nilgiri Your a star!

Yeah hopefully I can get more Bangladeshis to expose BBS/BAL corruption/propaganda as well like this guy:

http://today.thefinancialexpress.co...conomic-growth-disappear-who-saves-1512481205

These are very long-standing problems, and yet very little have been done to improve the quality of the services provided by BBS. The government is perhaps more worried about the embarrassment an efficient BBS can do to its image than the harm an inefficient BBS can inflict on policy making and on the economy.

Something that matters a whole lot more to the average inflation-sensitive Bangladeshi that doesn't have time or opportunity for forum-stronking.

The military ego chest thumping scooped up verbatim from any threads here, sure that just helps the reality check in the end even more ...extra gravy basically.

@Gibbs @Major Sam @Aung Zaya @bluesky

BTW @Valar. good to see you back

 

[bluesky]

K stands for Korakuram because the manufacturers and designers (in this case Pakistan and China) so desired/decided. You can name your plane Jamuna (or any other fancy name you want to give it) when you are capable of designing and manufacturing planes.

No, K-8 was not designed or developed by Pakistan although it has the 'K' tag for Karakorum. It is only the export version. Read Wiki to know about it.

"The Hongdu JL-8 (Nanchang JL-8), also known as the Karakorum-8 or K-8 for short, is a two-seat intermediate jet trainer and light attack aircraft designed in the People's Republic of China by China Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation. The primary contractor is the Hongdu Aviation Industry Corporation. Its export variant, K-8 Karakorum is co-produced by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex for the Pakistan Air Force".

 

[Nilgiri]

No, K-8 was not designed or developed by Pakistan although it has the 'K' tag for Karakorum. It is only the export version. Read Wiki to know about it.

"The Hongdu JL-8 (Nanchang JL-8), also known as the Karakorum-8 or K-8 for short, is a two-seat intermediate jet trainer and light attack aircraft designed in the People's Republic of China by China Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation. The primary contractor is the Hongdu Aviation Industry Corporation. Its export variant, K-8 Karakorum is co-produced by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex for the Pakistan Air Force".

From same wiki:

Work on the design started in 1987 at Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Company (NAMC) at Nanchang, Jiangshi Province in South Central China. The Chinese chief designer of the aircraft was Shi Ping (石屏), heading a team of over 100 Chinese Engineers, while Air Cdr Muhammad Younas Tbt (M), SI(M) was the chief designer from the Pakistani side leading a team of over 20 Pakistani engineers.

Initially, the aircraft was to feature many United States parts, including Garrett TFE-731 engine and several cockpit displays along with communication and avionics systems, but due to political developments and an embargo from the US at the end of the 1980s following the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, other vendors had to be used. The first prototype was built in 1989, with the first flight taking place on 21 November 1990 by Chief Test Pilot Col Yang Yao (杨耀). Flight testing continued from 1991 to 1993 by a Flight Test Team consisting of four Chinese and two Pakistani Pilots (Group Captain Waqar Ahmad and Squadron Leader Nadeem Sherwani).

@Zibago @django @Bilal Khan 777 @Windjammer @waz

 

[Aasimkhan]

No, K-8 was not designed or developed by Pakistan although it has the 'K' tag for Karakorum. It is only the export version. Read Wiki to know about it.

"The Hongdu JL-8 (Nanchang JL-8), also known as the Karakorum-8 or K-8 for short, is a two-seat intermediate jet trainer and light attack aircraft designed in the People's Republic of China by China Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation. The primary contractor is the Hongdu Aviation Industry Corporation. Its export variant, K-8 Karakorum is co-produced by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex for the Pakistan Air Force".

If you read Wikipedia then why didn't you read this
"Air Cdr Muhammad Younas Tbt (M), SI(M) was the chief designer from the Pakistani side leading a team of over 20 Pakistani engineers."
What you have done is called an intellectual dishonesty