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Azm-e-Nau-3, 10 April to 13 May.

sir, as far as I know the MG4 is 5.56, is there any other 7.62 chambered variant? The problem with a western SAW weapon is that it can only be 5.56 caliber, a russian weapon would be 7.62x39 but then it would not have the penetration power.

There is a 7.62 variant, but in production & in service is the 5.56mm version, 7.62 technology can be taken, its not a big deal. Any 5.56mm weapon can come in the 7.62mm caliber and vice versa.

7.62*39mm is the Russian caliber, which we see in Ak47s and other ones.

Western is the 7.62*51mm variant, G3 & MG3 have 7.62*51mm bullets chambered, similarly H&K-417 is 7.62*51mm version and MG4 can also be gotten in the same caliber.
 
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The first phase of military exercise Azm-E-Nau - III culminated with an impressive integrated fire power exercise at Khairpur Tamewali, Bahawalpur.

Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani, Federal Ministers, Parliamentarians, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, General Tariq Majeed, Chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayan, other services chiefs, foreign defence attaches and a number of retired and serving military officers witnessed the spectacular fire power exercise. Speaking on the occasion Prime Minister Syed Yousuf raza gilani congratulated the Pakistan army for holding exercise Azm-E-Nau – III and commended the professionalism of the troops. He also admired the success achieved in counter terrorism operations and acknowledged the sacrifices made by the army and other law enforcement agencies. While explaining the concept of exercise, the Chief of Army Staff general Ashfaq Parvez Kayani said exercise Azm-E-Nau iii was conceived and executed as a concept validation exercise; a part of the ‘eternal preparedness’ philosophy of Pakistan army. He said the exercise has helped in evolving a timely and effective response to emerging challenges.
The audience witnessed the integrated firing of various ground weapons, cobra gunship helicopters and Pakistan air force fighter aircraft.

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Assalam-o-Alaikum,
Nice to see A-100 MRL System inducted by PA...
Taimi Bhai I think your wish list is right and PA should think about this, and it is doable tooooo.

Regards,

Sunny
 
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Pakistan army exhibits capability to target drone

KHAIRPUR TAMEWALI, April 18 (APP) - Pakistan Army on Sunday effectively targeted a flying drone, displaying the capability to target UAVs on Sunday as part of the Excercise Azm-e-Nau III (or the New Resolve) being conducted by Pakistan Army in the desert near Bhawalpur.Prime Minister Syed Yusaf Raza Gilani, Federal Ministers, Deputy Chairman Senate, members of the parliament, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, Chief of Army Staff and Chief of Ar Staff witnessed the fire power show.It included the effectively targeting an indigenously developed drone flying at a certain height and speed with the help of Radar Directed Orlikon Anti Aircraft gun.

The parts of the missile-hit drone splashed in the air and then its ashes came to the ground. This show of Pakistan Army Air Defence was warmly received by the spectators present on the occasion by giving thunderous applause.
The Air Defence of Pakistan Army also exhibited the accurate targeting of enemy’s aircraft while in its attacking position, with a pinpoint precision through shoulder operated system of Anza-II Missiles. Anza is an indigenously developed missile.
In addition to that the troop also exercised the skill to use on of the lethal weapon system called MBRL mounted with ten tubes having target range of 120 kilometres with accuracy and speed.
The weapon system has been recently inducted in the mechanized columns of Pakistan Army. The firing of the missiles from the system gave an unprecedented roaring scene.
On the occasion it was announced that during the on-going exercise the troops of Pakistan army have achieved the capability of deployment of its mechanized units within a shortest possible time of 25 minutes as compared to the earlier of 75 minutes.
This capability has been achieved to counter the adversary’s cold start doctrine.

The “Fog of War” was really created at the time when the mechanised columns of Pakistan Army with the help of Army Air Defence, Army Aviation and jet aircraft of Pakistan Airforce simultaneously came in to operation .
“Heavy wind carrying clouds of dust with shaking of the earth was the real scene at the Firing and Bombing Range of Pakistan Army due to the intense bombing and shelling,” said a defence expert present to witness the spectacular firepower show.
The intense bombing and firing realy shook the 40-feet high earth filled platform like jelly in the dish, he added.
Cobra gunships loaded with anti-tank missiles and rockets presented a real scene of accurately targeting the mock targets on the ground.
These helicopters are also playing a significant role in anti-terrorist operations in parts of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA).
Later, Director General of the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Major General Athar Abass told APP that Pakistan has no offensive designs while its continuing exercise is meant to validate all the concepts and ideas achieved during the war games held from time to time during the last one year or so.
Gen. Athar said that the valiant defence forces of the country are fully capable to defend the frontiers of the motherland.
A team of senior journalists was especially arranged to fly from the Federal Capital to the firing range and return in a PAF’s wide body aircraft.

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - Pakistan army exhibits capability to target drone
 
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Pakistani War Games To Validate New Doctrines
By Usman Ansari
Published: 15 Apr 2010 15:24

ISLAMABAD - The Pakistan Army is conducting its largest ever war games, a monthlong operation that is expected eventually to involve up to 50,000 troops as well as elements of the Air Force.

Called Azm-e-Nau III (New Resolve III) games, the exercise began on April 10. It comes after a series of concept studies aimed at developing doctrines and tactics in case of a war on the eastern border.

The last of these studies, Azm-e-Nau II, was held in February, and the Army is thought to be updating its war-fighting capabilities in light of archrival India's continuing attempts to make reality its "Cold Start" doctrine.

Under Cold Start, India would quickly mobilize a number of combined arms battle groups to strike along its eastern border with Pakistan. For the purposes of this exercise, the combat took place between the forces of "Blue Land" and "Fox Land."

The current maneuvers will test and validate Pakistan's new concepts, as well as test the individual modular aspects of the concepts.

When asked to clarify what testing the individual modular aspects of the concepts entailed, an Army spokesman, Brigadier Syed Azmat Ali, told Defense News that this concerned "integrated warfare." He further explained, "For every concept we are trying to develop, we are developing a model, or contingencies. If this should happen, we would react in such a manner, and so on."

The games also will test how effectively the Army is able to utilize and enhance intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) equipment and capabilities, which have revolutionized modern warfare. The Army clarified these as being UAVs, early warning equipment and other aerial surveillance assets.

The Army's ultimate aim is to transform the service into a fully net-centric-enabled force able to make maximum use of intelligence-gathering and information dissemination‏ assets.

Ali also clarified that contrary to some reports in the media here, there would be no urban warfare element to the current exercise. This had been mentioned in relation to the current operations being undertaken to combat the Taliban, not only on the Afghan-Pakistan border, but increasingly in Pakistan's urban centers.

The war games commenced with the deployment of heavy armor, engineering and signals units in the Cholistan Desert in the south of Punjab province. The action will eventually expand farther south to enter the southern Sind province before the games conclude next month.

Pakistani War Games To Validate New Doctrines - Defense News
 
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Close to India, Pakistan shows military might
By CHRIS BRUMMITT (AP) – 10 hours ago

CHOLISTAN DESERT, Pakistan — Fighter jets strafed mock enemy positions and tanks rumbled across this eastern desert Sunday in a display of military might signaling Pakistan's readiness to face traditional foe India even as it battles Taliban militants on its opposite flank.

While India and Pakistan regularly carry out army drills, the demonstration close to the Indian border was part of Pakistan's biggest military exercises since 1989, when the army was celebrating its role in ousting the Soviet Union from Afghanistan.

This time around, the exercises follow successful operations in the northwest against extremists that have improved the image of the army as a fighting force after its popularity plunged during the military-backed rule of former President Gen. Pervez Musharraf. For a domestic audience, the army was emphasizing this battlefield role, analysts said.

"It is meant to signal internally that we are back to where we belong," said Moeed Yusuf, from the Washington DC-based thinktank, United States Institute of Peace. "For the world, it signals that India remains the principal threat."

There was no immediate comment from New Delhi. India generally refrains from commenting on such scheduled exercises.

Sunday's exercises were meant to replicate a counter offensive against an invading ground force. They included 21 bombing runs by various Pakistani jets, displays of anti-aircraft weaponry, tanks moving in formation and round after round of heavy artillery.

Those watching — including the prime minister, the country's military leaders and politicians — clapped as targets were hit some 2,000 meters away across the shimmering, dusty Cholistan Desert. The loudest round of applause was for when an unmanned drone was shot out of the sky by a barrage of anti-aircraft fire.

Pakistan has fought three inconclusive wars with India since the two countries were formed from the then British-ruled Asian subcontinent in 1949. The army, which has ruled the country directly or indirectly for most of the time since then, has relentlessly focused on threat from India, which has roughly twice as many troops.

Alarmed at Taliban and al-Qaida safe havens on the western border close to Afghanistan, the United States has urged the country to concentrate less on the threat from India. It wants to see more troops deployed in the northwest and more training in counterinsurgency, not conventional war fought in the desert.

Those concerns have been allayed somewhat over the last 18 months during which the Pakistan army has moved forcefully against militants in several regions close to the Afghan border. In public at least, U.S. officials have praised the army's actions and rarely berate it as was common two years ago.

After watching a display clearly aimed at the threat from India, Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani several times mentioned the successes in the northwest. "The world sees Pakistan as a bulwark against extremism and militancy. It is in this struggle the nation has pledged to support the armed forces. Pakistan is fully committed to the struggle in the west," he said.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

The Associated Press: Close to India, Pakistan shows military might
 
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Western is the 7.62*51mm variant, G3 & MG3 have 7.62*51mm bullets chambered, similarly H&K-417 is 7.62*51mm version and MG4 can also be gotten in the same caliber.

but wouldn't there be a problem of weight and recoil, the 7.62 NATO round is about twice as heavy as the 5.56. This would defeat the purpose of the weapon because it would be difficult to fire when moving and not in prone position.
 
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Note the AR 2 300mm MBRL in the background. First official confirmation that the system is in the country and operational.

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aoa,
from right to left what kind of Weapon is on the left side of the APC is it Chinese SH-1 that we are talking in other thread or.......??
Please answer

regards,
sunny
 
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but wouldn't there be a problem of weight and recoil, the 7.62 NATO round is about twice as heavy as the 5.56. This would defeat the purpose of the weapon because it would be difficult to fire when moving and not in prone position.

7.62*51mm has the kill power, which lacks in 5.56 as recently shown by the concerns from ground troops in Afghanistan, where they had to have multiple hits on a single target to take it down. And US and NATO guys are thinking about a possible caliber change in future.

Newer guns give less recoil compared to the G3 era guns, as new ones come with gas operated recoil system, while G3 era used blow back recoil operation.

Here see what a 7.62*51mm can do and what recoil you are seeing. This video is of M249 Mk 48 which is chambered for 7.62.51mm NATO round. Normal M249s being used by US forces are 5.56 caliber.


 
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aoa,
from right to left what kind of Weapon is on the left side of the APC is it Chinese SH-1 that we are talking in other thread or.......??
Please answer

regards,
sunny

Nops, it seems the US heavy 203mm howitzer.

M110A2 i believe they are.
 
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sir, as far as I know the MG4 is 5.56, is there any other 7.62 chambered variant? The problem with a western SAW weapon is that it can only be 5.56 caliber, a russian weapon would be 7.62x39 but then it would not have the penetration power.

Army has russian PIKA as SAW and also MG3 is given on a squad level.Hope u get the messgae.
 
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