Auto quality gap between domestic, foreign brands narrows: Study

[jkroo]

Variances in quality depends on the car standards in nation

You mean the national compulsory law/regulation? No, you are wrong. Quality is quality, it is not determined by law or regulation though have some influences.
Quality is a system which includes design quality, manufacturing quality and customer quality(after sale).

 

[Aepsilons]

You mean the national compulsory law/regulation? No, you are wrong. Quality is quality, it is not determined by law or regulation though have some influences.
Quality is a system which includes design quality, manufacturing quality and customer quality(after sale).

No, I'm referring to emission standards that vary from nation to nation. For example, back in 2002, there were still some lead being spewed by some Chinese autos, and that was a major health concern. In fact it was Japanese automakers in China that had been counseling Chinese government' ministry of health about this issue. Until it was eventually ameliorated. Even early implementation of Japan's own regulation of zero lead emission, our auto industry ensured that all of our exports implemented this. This is why Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Suzuki, Mazda, Subaru, Lexus, Acura, InfinitI, Mitsubishi remain good and profitable brands in China.


For your reference,
In-Use Vehicle Emissions in China — Tianjin Study - Harvard - Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs

http://www.understandchinaenergy.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Veh_Emiss_Control_EN.pdf

 

[Sanchez]

China is one of our largest markets, actually. LOL.

TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION GLOBAL WEBSITE | 75 Years of TOYOTA | Activities by Region | China

You shouldn't be so pathetic about so called Jap quality. They are not much trusted in Korea or China and the reason is that Japan motor makers offer varying qualities to different markets...

 

[Aepsilons]

Dude you actually Japanese ?

I got a line of Japanese text I need translation of ... can you help ?

I'll send you a PM, buddy.

 

[jkroo]

Integral to Japanese auto industry is quality. If there is a defect, no one is punished, but the entire production wing is addressed to find the cause, and ameliorate the defect. It is part of the Kaizen culture of Japanese industrial / corporate culture.
Self improvement leads to external improvement.

I do feel that you know little about auto industry. Japanese companies do follow and practise Deming circle/PDCA to continuously improve work/product quality that also adopted by many Chinese companies. It's a good method.
Do you know Honda's DST-PDCA?

 

[Aepsilons]

You shouldn't be so pathetic about so called Jap quality. They are not much trusted in Korea or China and the reason is that Japan motor makers offer varying qualities to different markets...

Please provide me a peer reviewed journal, and academic proof if this claim. Thank You.

I do feel that you know little about auto industry. Japanese companies do follow and practise Deming circle/PDCA to continuously improve work/product quality that also adopted by many Chinese companies. It's a good method.
Do you know Honda's DST-PDCA?

For majority of the Japanese auto industry, they implement the 5S Initiative. PS. I know a bit about car industry , overall. Not just about Japanese, but American as well. I should know, I interned at GM couple of years ago.

 

[jkroo]

Please provide me a peer reviewed journal, and academic proof if this claim. Thank You.



For majority of the Japanese auto industry, they implement the 5S Initiative. PS. I know a bit about car industry , overall. Not just about Japanese, but American as well. I should know, I interned at GM couple of years ago.

You are diverting the problem and yes 5S is important discipline for everyday management, and practise by ALL company especially the auto/parts companies.
You don't get SWOT analysis for your own auto industry. You should keep up with it. Today's competition of Chinese auto market is somewhat fierce. So many makers want to get a piece of cake and Japanese auto company is also facing the problem. Honda dropped 30% this year.
For your information, Ford/GM induct press/stamping line equipment from China JIER.

Some of JIER's customer

 

[Aepsilons]

You are diverting the problem and yes 5S is important discipline for everyday management, and practise by ALL company especially the auto/parts companies.
You don't get SWOT analysis for your own auto industry. You should keep up with it. Today's competition of Chinese auto market is somewhat fierce. So many makers want to get a piece of cake and Japanese auto company is also facing the problem. Honda dropped 30% this year.
For your information, Ford induct press/stamping line equipment from China JIER.

I'm sure as China's auto market industry matures, it has quality and trustworthiness in it. I'm verily well versed in SWOT analysis and despite the threats, the opportunities are readily available for Japanese cars.

Btw, it depends in region, because overall global sales of Honda has shown an unprecedented growth (19% increase in profit!)



Honda Cars Sales Up 19% in October - NDTVProfit.com

GM, Nissan, Chrysler sales rise 19% on strong light truck volume Honda deliveries rise 12%, Toyota up 2%, Ford off 3% | Team Centennial

September US Auto Sales, October 1 - Business Insider

 

[jkroo]

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Jap cars in China made with plastics... no safety records

For the evil annual cost down from JV and the conception for the certain/very cost, certain quality, certain product.

I'm sure as China's auto market industry matures, it has quality and trustworthiness in it. I'm verily well versed in SWOT analysis and despite the threats, the opportunities are readily available for Japanese cars.

Btw, it depends in region, because overall global sales of Honda has shown an unprecedented growth (19% increase in profit!)



Honda Cars Sales Up 19% in October - NDTVProfit.com

GM, Nissan, Chrysler sales rise 19% on strong light truck volume Honda deliveries rise 12%, Toyota up 2%, Ford off 3% | Team Centennial

September US Auto Sales, October 1 - Business Insider

Yes, I know. What I point out is the competition. Honda's situation in China is not that good.

Please provide me a peer reviewed journal, and academic proof if this claim. Thank You.



For majority of the Japanese auto industry, they implement the 5S Initiative. PS. I know a bit about car industry , overall. Not just about Japanese, but American as well. I should know, I interned at GM couple of years ago.

Which function/section and which line have you stayed?

 

[Aepsilons]

For the evil annual cost down from JV and the conception for the certain/very cost, certain quality, certain product.


Yes, I know. What I point out is the competition. Honda's situation in China is not that good.

Well, given the rise of Chinese home auto industry , rise in protectionist policies as well as cost differences, definitely there is a large competition. However, sales in China for Japanese vehicles still is producing profits. In the billions. I mean, if it was so bad, then Japan wouldn't be opening auto plants in China right? But that just isn't the case, lol. You guys are our largest market in Asia-Pacific. And overall sale trends shows that its only increasing.

Btw, this year Nissan-Infiniti is opening a new plant in DALIAN, CHINA:

In partnership with Dongfeng

Green Car Congress: Dongfeng Nissan Dalian plant commences production; production hub for SUVs

NISSAN | DONGFENG MOTOR CO., LTD. INVESTS RMB 5 BILLION FOR NEW PLANT IN DALIAN, CHINA

Nissan's China JV to build new plant in Dalian - MarketWatch

 

[Sanchez]

在中国的日本车是偷工减料的车，不如在欧美那样的耐用。

伤天害理的日本奸商：
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[mike2000]

Variances in quality depends on the car standards in a particular nation. However, our cars have topped export quality and Japanese cars' success abroad -- globally -- is testament to our comprehensive qualitative seal. I would counsel you to research before you utter nonsensical drivel.



Integral to Japanese auto industry is quality. If there is a defect, no one is punished, but the entire production wing is addressed to find the cause, and ameliorate the defect. It is part of the Kaizen culture of Japanese industrial / corporate culture.

Self improvement leads to external improvement.

I agree, Japan has one of the best/if not the best car production management/standards in the world. Moreover, Japanese cars are exported all over the world and Toyota is still the worlds best selling car/top in global vehicles sales. This is something nobody can take from Japan, Their cars are on par, if not better than even some europeans/western/U.S ones. Chinese cars are still way way behind. If Chinese cars cant even dominate their own market, how do they expect other countries will accept their cars/export such cars abroad and gain market share? First try and dominate the chinese market before they can even think of ever standing a chance against Behemoaths like Toyota, Ford, GM, VW, Mercedes, and even south Korean car makers. Also, another main problem for the Chinese is that even after their car makers are able to match western/Japanese cars, their consumers will still rather purchase western/Japanese or even south Korean cars than their local ones, since Chinese people tend to value foreign goods more than local ones and to save 'FACE'/show off. . So i don't see this changing anytime soon, not in 2-3 decades at least.

So chinese auto makers still have at least a decade or more before they can even start having a chance of challenging Western/Japanese/south korean car makers. Until then they should keep up with their 'JV' with western/Japanese companies who totally dominate the Chinese market. At least i understand why and can at least give an excuse to china for this.lol Since China is still quite a bit poorer than Japan was at the time it started to penetrate the American market, so it might be that this is just a perfectly normal stage of development, and that we need to recalibrate our expectations. Anyway we have to wait and see in another decade or two how things play out, if by hen they still havent been able to turn the tables, then they wont have any excuses.l anymore(not even me will be able to look for one for them.lool).

Toyota at top in global vehicle sales over VW, GM - Yahoo News

GM, Ford, VW Dominate China's Auto Industry: Why Can't Chinese Companies Like SAIC, Dongfeng, Geely, And GAC Make Cars That People Want To Buy?

 

[Aepsilons]

Which function/section and which line have you stayed?

I was in Lansing, Michigan for an internship in their Industrial Engineering wing, focusing on personnel management, human resource department. Had the opportunity to work with operational management, tactical management and strategic management. Had the opportunity to appreciate not only GM; but also the corporate and industrial culture in Chevy, and Cadillac plants there.

The Americans have implemented Japan's Kaizen Culture. Its almost similar to any Toyota or Honda plant. lol.


BTW,

Her'e GM Lansing

 

[jkroo]

protectionist policies

No

sales in China for Japanese vehicles still is producing profits

Yes

Land Rover also built a JV with Cherry and SOP this year where there are many of my former colleagues.

You see, the increasing rate of the market will slow down someday, but there are too many manufacturers with too much production capacities.

Nissan Huadu factory has the capacity to produce 800k per year! There will be a shuffling in this market in the coming 10 years. You should get ready for it.

I doubt the traditional gas fueled vehicles now. I love zero emissions and I think it's the trend.

I was in Lansing, Michigan for an internship in their Industrial Engineering wing, focusing on personnel management, human resource department. Had the opportunity to work with operational management, tactical management and strategic management. Had the opportunity to appreciate not only GM; but also the corporate and industrial culture in Chevy, and Cadillac plants there.

The Americans have implemented Japan's Kaizen Culture. Its almost similar to any Toyota or Honda plant. lol.


BTW,

Her'e GM Lansing

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I am HRM

The Americans have implemented Japan's Kaizen Culture. Its almost similar to any Toyota or Honda plant. lol.

Call it lean production that maybe they learned from TPS. The PDCA theory is created by American and practise by Japanese and succeed. The auto factory is almost the same despite the automation rate.

 

[Aepsilons]

Land Rover also built a JV with Cherry and SOP this year where there are many of my former colleagues.

You see its just amazing how interoperable facilities , companies are now. Land Rover is owned by Tata Motors, but production happens in China as well as some production in UK.

You see, the increasing rate of the market will slow down someday, but there are too many manufacturers with too much production capacities.

Sure, that is true. But from my view, China is a massive market, and we're profitting so much from sales with China. Remember that China has yet to even achieve 30% of its full potential. Now, if marketing projection is accurate, that means there is still untapped growth potential as China transforms from being a manufacturing based economy to one that is a consumer-based economy. Right? Sure there will be Chinese consumers that will prefer their own Chinese brands. Look at Japanese, Americans. There are some that have a "Buy American cars, Support American economy!" or "Buy Japanese cars, Support Japanese Economy" kind of culture/ rhetoric. But data shows that these people are only a fraction of the market. There are substantial amount of Americans who buy foreign cars; as Japanese who buy foreign cars. The same will apply for Chinese neo-rich and neo-middle class.

I doubt the traditional gas fueled vehicles now. I love zero emissions and I think it's the trend.

Definitely. And I am so happy to see how Nissan-Infiniti is teaming up with Dongfeng to tap into this new opportunity. See, it goes to show that China and Japan can cooperate. And when we have symbiosis, its pretty damn good.

I am HRM

LOL! I'm doing my Ph.D in Industrial/Organizational Psychology. So HRM is my forte.

BTW, Big $$ opportunity here for HRM specialists in auto industry. If you're HRCI certified and experience with SPHR, the salary is very good. It ranges from $90k to $150k. Based on experience, and education. But yea, you should consider applying here.

They pay us at least 30k or 40k more than the Engineers. LOL!!

Go where the money is at man. Then go back to China and apply what you know.