Australia And Pakistan Are In A Huge Fight Over 21,000 Dead Sheep.

[Safriz]

In any case vets on ground who took live samples from the sheep and visually inspected them and saw them bleeding from all the wrong places,their verdict is deemed to be the final verdict.

 

[BATMAN]

Australia And Pakistan Are In A Huge Fight Over 21,000 Dead Sheep.
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Prime Minister Julia Gillard on Tuesday demanded that Pakistan investigate and explain the brutal killing of 21,000 Australian sheep in Karachi, a slaughter officials have described as appalling.
The shipment of Australian sheep was sent to the port city after being turned away by Bahrain, with Pakistan livestock officials ordering them to be culled over disease concerns.
Graphic footage of their slaughter was aired by ABC's Four Corners programme on Monday, including images of a man sawing at a sheep's neck before throwing it into a bloody trench.
Other sheep were bulldozed into the pit after being killed last month, but some were seen the next morning still breathing, sparking angry condemnation of their treatment.
Gillard said she had spoken to her Pakistani counterpart Raja Pervez Ashraf at a summit of European and Asian leaders in Laos to express her concern.
"I did raise with the prime minister of Pakistan my concern about the graphic and very cruel images we've seen of the treatment of Australian sheep," she told reporters in Vientiane.
"I explained to him that Australians are distressed to see these acts of cruelty and that I wanted the matter investigated.
"He undertook to investigate the matter ... I was very clear about Australia's concerns, very strong in raising those concerns and very clear that this is something that has distressed the Australian people."
Australia Agriculture Minister Joe Ludwig earlier called the slaughter "appalling" and his department disputed that the sheep were unhealthy.
"We do not know the reasoning behind the Pakistan authority's decision to cull the sheep in Pakistan or their choice of the method used," the agriculture ministry said.
"We continue to hold that both the decision and the method used were unnecessary."
Livestock officials ordered the sheep to be culled after they tested positive for salmonella and actinomyces bacteria.
Although samples from the sheep were sent to a British laboratory and came back clean, clearing the meat for human consumption, municipal officials in Karachi rejected the tests.
Pakistani officials insisted the animals were slaughtered in keeping with Islamic practice, but said enquiries would be made.
"As far as we know the culling was done in accordance with the rules. The animals were slaughtered in Islamic manner," a senior official with Sindh provincial livestock ministry said.
"However, we will investigate the reports alleging the Australian sheep were brutalised during the slaughter."
Australian farmers urged against a ban on the live export trade, saying significant improvements had been made in regulating Australia's live export market since a controversy in Indonesia last year.
Canberra suspended live cattle exports to Indonesia for a month last year after a television documentary revealed mistreatment inside its abattoirs, only reinstating the trade under a strict new licensing system.
Australia's National Farmers Federation said "decisive action" had been taken to temporarily suspend exports of sheep to Pakistan and Bahrain while investigations were carried out.
The farming lobby group stressed that Australia was a world leader in animal treatment in exports and warned that banning the trade would see welfare standards fall.
"If Australia was to stop exporting livestock, global animal welfare standards would unquestionably decline," it said.
In a separate development, a US-based animal rights group on Tuesday urged Australia to ban livestock exports to Egypt, where a government-tasked committee is recommending the ears of hormone-treated cattle be chopped off.
Egyptian newspapers say the committee made the recommendation in a bid to rid livestock imported from Australia of hormone implants found in their ears.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals urged Australia's government to ban cattle exports to Egypt to avoid the practice.
Australia's live export trade is worth about US$1 billion a year and employs thousands of people.
Copyright (2012) AFP. All rights reserved.

Australia And Pakistan Are In A Huge Fight Over 21,000 Dead Sheep - Business Insider

Where is the proof that 21'000 sheep are dead?

Who was doing the counting? Geo news!

I strongly believe those were supplied in market..... it is nothing new.

 

[hankau62]

Well the sheeps are dead. What happened to the importer who imported the contaminated sheep by risking the spread of disease to local animals? Was he/company punished?


Also Why didn't Australia took back their sheep??

 

[hankau62]

Also, 2000 Holy Australian Cows are on their way to Pakistan. I wonder how will they fare in Pakistani climate? These cows are for breeding. Do Pakistan had imported Australian cows before with good result?

 

[Safriz]

Also, 2000 Holy Australian Cows are on their way to Pakistan. I wonder how will they fare in Pakistani climate? These cows are for breeding. Do Pakistan had imported Australian cows before with good result?

you have no idea about the expertise of Pakistani breeders...
These Imports are always used as "Gene donors only"

 

[xdrive]

buddy we need compensation for the diseased sheep which was bought and the price for culling, the aussies didnt just land their infected sheep on karachi harbour without been paid

stop dreaming too much sleeping in a desolate corner of the world

and you can ban exports we have no interest in buying your diseased product no one in the gulf should buy your product, bahrain and many arab countries infact rejected your poor diseased shipment, you cheat nations with your poor quality low standard livestock

The sheep were not infected by any disease as explained in my previous posts.

Did you forget your meds today?

Steal precious aussi sheep, kills them

My post was a news report i posted.

There were vets on the ship. Totally believable.

Ships that carry live animals have a vet on board, of course. The independent vets who tested the animals would have came on board after it docked in Pakistan.

 

[xdrive]

we bought the sheep, its our sheep, stop crying rivers on how it was cullied, our territory our rules

No you didn't buy any sheep. The sheep was sold to bahrain. So no, it's not your sheep.

Also the way the sheep were culled goes completely against your countries "rules" Pakistan has a culling standard and a system of culling, hence why your government is investigating this incident.

I don't understand this. If the sheep were healthy why did Bahrain reject them and then Pakistan instead of feasting upon them culled the sheep. Secondly if the sheep were really infected why did Pakistan brought them in from Bahrain.

Because bahrain tested them and it said they were diseased. The test was incorrect and proven by multiple independent vets.

 

[darkinsky]

No you didn't buy any sheep. The sheep was sold to bahrain.

if it was supposedly sold to behrain then

1) what was it doing in karachi port

2) if it was sold to behrain why your aussie arse is burning, its not your property anyway

 

[xdrive]

Also, 2000 Holy Australian Cows are on their way to Pakistan. I wonder how will they fare in Pakistani climate? These cows are for breeding. Do Pakistan had imported Australian cows before with good result?

Australia imports sheep to most middle eastern countries and has been doing so for the last 50 years. This is the first time something like this has happened.

if it was supposedly sold to behrain then

1) what was it doing in karachi port

2) if it was sold to behrain why your aussie arse is burning, its not your property anyway

If you care to read the news reports you would know.

The sheep were sold to bahrain. Bahrain conducted a test of the animals which said they were diseased. The ship was not allowed to enter bahrain so they had no choice but to dock in Karachi. The sheep were then taken off the boat by these people and killed despite being re tested by vets and shown not to be diseased.

Also when responding in this thread, please do not write insults. Thanks.

 

[darkinsky]

Also, 2000 Holy Australian Cows are on their way to Pakistan. I wonder how will they fare in Pakistani climate? These cows are for breeding. Do Pakistan had imported Australian cows before with good result?

esp for eid pakistan imported the fat aussie cows, people always complain how these aussie cows have more fat and less meat on them, waste of money btw

 

[Safriz]

Australia imports sheep to most middle eastern countries and has been doing so for the last 50 years. This is the first time something like this has happened.



If you care to read the news reports you would know.

The sheep were sold to bahrain. Bahrain conducted a test of the animals which said they were diseased. The ship was not allowed to enter bahrain so they had no choice but to dock in Karachi. The sheep were then taken off the boat by these people and killed despite being re tested by vets and shown not to be diseased.

Also when responding in this thread, please do not write insults. Thanks.

Or first time caught red handed..
either of the two..

obviously buyers' confidence will be shaken after this and other options such as Argentina may be exploited...

and agreed with Xdrive..Nothing personal here,just a discussion which can be done without personal attacks.

 

[darkinsky]

Australia imports sheep to most middle eastern countries and has been doing so for the last 50 years. This is the first time something like this has happened.



If you care to read the news reports you would know.

The sheep were sold to bahrain. Bahrain conducted a test of the animals which said they were diseased. The ship was not allowed to enter bahrain so they had no choice but to dock in Karachi. The sheep were then taken off the boat by these people and killed despite being re tested by vets and shown not to be diseased.

Also when responding in this thread, please do not write insults. Thanks.

my question again which you made a round about landing on the same point

1) if sold to behrain, why is australia shouting, the sheep dpnt belong to you

2) why they landed in karachi if the sheep could have been taken back to australia for testing

3) the behrain tested it for disease, so why are you contradicting yourself by saying the sheep didnt carry disease

4) why you are making it your state business when the sheep 'is sold to behrain', they dont belong to you period

 

[xdrive]

1) if sold to behrain, why is australia shouting, the sheep dpnt belong to you

The sale wasn't completed obviously since the delivery couldn't be made to bahrain. The screaming is because the sheep were not killed to culling standards and were killed in a horrific way.

2) why they landed in karachi if the sheep could have been taken back to australia for testing

They were tested in Pakistan.

3) the behrain tested it for disease, so why are you contradicting yourself by saying the sheep didnt carry disease

I'm not. Please read my posts carefully and the news reports. Bahrains test turned to be incorrect. Multiple independent vets tested them and they were disease free.

4) why you are making it your state business when the sheep 'is sold to behrain', they dont belong to you period

Australia doesn't like to see animals brutally and horrifically killed, especially in ways that go against culling rules and industry guidelines.

Your government thinks the incident is serious too, hence why they are investigating.

 

[darkinsky]

Australia doesn't like to see animals brutally and horrifically killed, especially in ways that go against culling rules and industry guidelines.

Your government thinks the incident is serious too, hence why they are investigating.

but its not your state business, how would you like if pakistan makes australian internal matters our state business, is trading with india with uranium safe for the world??

australia is a nobody, nothing, none of your matter

it was a threat to pakistan to cull them, culling is always terrible, but we couldnt risk our livestalk the lives of our citizens with with your infected sheep

as i said if australia had taken the livestalk it would be their matter but they didnt

pakistani media has reported that the sheep were bought in karachi and they were to be used if there wasnt a government order to cull all the infected sheep

pakistanis should demand the price of culling from australia for we had to spend money on it, and second the price of all the 21,000 infected sheep if it was bought in karachi

you dont need to worry aussie market is already troubled with you exporting infected sheep to other countries, so long your sheep traders

 

[Kobalt]

Australia's govt throws a hissyfit over sheep being killed on another country's territory but of course turns a blind eye to the brutal oppression of aboriginals.

Classic Australia.