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[ssethii]

Funny.
Why don't you tell the Kashmiri youth picking up the guns the same thing?
Because the 1.2 Billion population of India has already sunk deep in their hearts, the idea that Kashmir is an integral part of the Indian union. And no amount of bullets or Kumbayas can change that.
Hence picking up arms is a futile endeavor for the Kashmiris.
Plus we got more bullets, guns and people if the Kashmiris want to test our will and go the violent route.

So the real point here is....whos will is more powerful, 1.2 Billion Indians or a few million Kashmiri? (and I'm fluffing the Kashmiri seperatist numbers to give you a fair chance).
Because both sides have their own POV and Indians are here for the long game. Think you should know that by now.

1.2 billion have noting to do with Kashmir it's Kashmiris who will decide and dictate the future of Kashmir.

 

[Peshwa]

They can support anything. But the fact is that both FATA and Balochistan are neither disputed territories nor their are any popular freedom movement like Kashmir despite enemy wasting its money and not learning from its repeated failures.

Disputed territories? Since when was that a pre requisite for revolutionaries?
You think Bhagat Singh or Che fought based on the UN list of disputed territories? lol
And I suppose all those organizations like BLA and BRA are all charities right?
Please make sense.

1.2 billion have noting to do with Kashmir it's Kashmiris who will decide and dictate the future of Kashmir.

Actually NO. We Indians decide what happens in Kashmir and to Kashmir.
If not, why are you lot crying about Indians here otherwise?
We wear the boot that Kashmir sits under.
If youre in denial of simple facts, that's you being an ostrich, not us.

 

[terry5]

In that case, the Pakistani government should prepare a list of people from Indian Kashmir who are not welcome and this list should be made public.

Tell Asiya Andrabi and her types that they are not welcome in a future United Kashmir.

If such a step is not taken then the Pakistan government can be understood as not working for the full welfare of Kashmiris.

No such thing as Indian Kashmir pal .

 

[Areesh]

How about we first prove that's even true.lol
When we got one boot up the separatist Kashmiris asses and the other one on their necks, its hard to believe such grandiose comments.
Why don't you first ask them to travel out of the country on a Kashmiri passport (which does not exist) or have a country outside Pakistan (who no one gives two fucks about) even recognize Kashmir as a separate free country?
Go ahead...I challenge you.
Maybe ask China which pretty much carrries all your weight to do this as a start. See if they don't laugh you off the stage. lol

That's a universal rule. But yeah being an occupational force it might be hard for you to understand. And that is perfectly natural as well.

Kashmir is a disputed territory. Whether you aren't told that in your school but that is a fact. Now lets not waste our time debating on something obvious like Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris.

 

[ssethii]

Actually NO. We Indians decide what happens in Kashmir and to Kashmir.
If not, why are you lot crying about Indians here otherwise?
We wear the boot that Kashmir sits under.
If youre in denial of simple facts, that's you being an ostrich, not us.

Stop acting like tyrants or else you will start loosing your land faster than anticipated.

 

[Areesh]

Disputed territories? Since when was that a pre requisite for revolutionaries?
You think Bhagat Singh or Che fought based on the UN list of disputed territories? lol
And I suppose all those organizations like BLA and BRA are all charities right?
Please make sense.

BLA and BRA are terroist organizations that hide in mountains of Balochistan and not in cities.

The reason that they are not a mass supported movement forces them to hide in deserted mountains and rely on bharatis on twitter to keep them relevant.

And yes being disputed is important. Something that is disputed is not equal to something that isn't. Simple logic even if it is too much to understand for you.

 

[Peshwa]

That's a universal rule. But yeah being an occupational force it might be hard for you to understand. And that is perfectly natural as well.

Kashmir is a disputed territory. Whether you aren't told that in your school but that is a fact. Now lets not waste our time debating on something obvious like Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris.

Maybe your education should have taught you that things that are obvious have certain tells.
None of which indicate that Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris.
Every indicator points to Kashmir belonging to India. Whether its legal (Instrument of accession), political (no country recognized Kashmir as belonging to Kashmiris or Independent) or military (this one should be, how do you call it "obvious" lol)

Like I said, please come back and make these claims when the obvious starts to show up in Kashmir.

Stop acting like tyrants or else you will start loosing your land faster than anticipated.

If the Kashmiris stop acting like terrorists and vandals, there will be no tyranny.
We don't enjoy violence or suppression. But we also don't like anyone trying to break our country apart.
We learned this the hard way in 1947. Never again!

if the Kashmiris are peaceful, we will be forced to be peaceful. Negotiations do not happen from the barrel of a gun, especially when the one Kashmiris are facing show up with bigger guns and will power.
Its very simple. Its action and reaction. We are simply reacting.

BLA and BRA are terroist organizations that hide in mountains of Balochistan and not in cities.

The reason that they are not a mass supported movement forces them to hide in deserted mountains and rely on bharatis on twitter to keep them relevant.

And yes being disputed is important. Something that is disputed is not equal to something that isn't. Simple logic even if it is too much to understand for you.

And Che and Bhagat would still call for their right to freedom. Simple as that.
Nothing indicates that Kashmir would be close to their heart and the calls for freedom from Baluchistan not. Things don't just happen because you say so. lets be clear on that.
The ideology of Che and Bhagat would put both Kashmir and Baluchistan on an equal footing for freedom.

Whether you consider BLA/BRA terrorists OR us considering the Kashmiris terrorists is irrelevant.

 

[ssethii]

If the Kashmiris stop acting like terrorists and vandals, there will be no tyranny.
We don't enjoy violence or suppression. But we also don't like anyone trying to break our country apart.
We learned this the hard way in 1947. Never again!

if the Kashmiris are peaceful, we will be forced to be peaceful. Negotiations do not happen from the barrel of a gun, especially when the one Kashmiris are facing show up with bigger guns and will power.
Its very simple. Its action and reaction. We are simply reacting.

You, my friend, stand on a very shaky ground and nobody gives a flying fcuk about your guns no matter how big they are. Go take a history lesson before acting all macho here.

 

[Areesh]

Maybe your education should have taught you that things that are obvious have certain tells.
None of which indicate that Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris.
Every indicator points to Kashmir belonging to India. Whether its legal (Instrument of accession), political (no country recognized Kashmir as belonging to Kashmiris or Independent) or military (this one should be, how do you call it "obvious" lol)

Like I said, please come back and make these claims when the obvious starts to show up in Kashmir.

I have enough education to understand the simple fact that "Kashmir belongs to its people".

As for all the bogus indicators that you mentioned, I would ignore them and not waste my time on that since they have been debated around hundred times on this forum alone. We all know how credible those "indicators" are.

So come back when you have actually understand the fact that "kashmir belongs to kashmiris". Till then your blabbering is something that every colonial occupying force comes up with.

And Che and Bhagat would still call for their right to freedom. Simple as that.
Nothing indicates that Kashmir would be close to their heart and the calls for freedom from Baluchistan not. Things don't just happen because you say so. lets be clear on that.
The ideology of Che and Bhagat would put both Kashmir and Baluchistan on an equal footing for freedom.

Whether you consider BLA/BRA terrorists OR us considering the Kashmiris terrorists is irrelevant.

Che and Bhagat can consider them whatever. But the thing is there is no analogy between Kashmir and Balochistan. So yeah lets not be stupid enough to create one. But then you are a bharati so year you would e that dumb and stupid. It is natural for you guys.

 

[Peshwa]

You, my friend, stand on a very shaky ground and nobody gives a flying fcuk about your guns no matter how big they are. Go take a history lesson before acting all macho here.

Apparently you people do. Why else the continuous whining on Indian actions in Kashmir?

And what history lesson are we to take? The ones where India is the legal and rightful owner of the Kashmiri lands?
Might is right. That's the rule of the world. Period. Don't need history lessons for that.
Maybe you should get out of your romanticized history class and learn something real for once.
And stop whining while you're at it. Its not a good look.

 

[313ghazi]

Apparently you people do. Why else the continuous whining on Indian actions in Kashmir?

And what history lesson are we to take? The ones where India is the legal and rightful owner of the Kashmiri lands?
Might is right. That's the rule of the world. Period. Don't need history lessons for that.
Maybe you should get out of your romanticized history class and learn something real for once.
And stop whining while you're at it. Its not a good look.

Might is right. - exactly.

Your turn is coming. We the Kashmiri people will stop at nothing to defeat India, be it by hook or crook. History is full of mighty nations falling to their knees. India has done it plenty of times in Kashmir.

 

[Peshwa]

I have enough education to understand the simple fact that "Kashmir belongs to its people".

Like I said, except for shouting this from pillar to post in frustration, there is very little evidence of this on the ground. If the situation is as you claim, where is the evidence to show this?
I question your education at this point.

As for all the bogus indicators that you mentioned, I would ignore them and not waste my time on that since they have been debated around hundred times on this forum alone. We all know how credible those "indicators" are.

Apparently these bogus indicators give us the legal, political and military control of Kashmir. Who cares whether you believe it or not. What matters is the situation on the ground. And it aint looking good for your slogan from where I'm sitting.

So come back when you have actually understand the fact that "kashmir belongs to kashmiris". Till then your blabbering is something that every colonial occupying force comes up with.

Oh I do understand what it means. Though unfortunately for you, its neither a fact, nor a reality.
It very well maybe your fantasy masked as reality to you. Nothing a few meds cant cure. This affliction is quite common among the deluded.
I urge you to seek help on the pronto.

Che and Bhagat can consider them whatever. But the thing is there is no analogy between Kashmir and Balochistan. So yeah lets not be stupid enough to create one. But then you are a bharati so year you would e that dumb and stupid. It is natural for you guys.

Might is right. - exactly.

Your turn is coming. We the Kashmiri people will stop at nothing to defeat India, be it by hook or crook. History is full of mighty nations falling to their knees. India has done it plenty of times in Kashmir.

God, we are scared!
I think we will pack up and leave after such vociferous threats! Spare us your mighty wrath oh Kashmiri..lol

Che and Bhagat can consider them whatever. But the thing is there is no analogy between Kashmir and Balochistan. So yeah lets not be stupid enough to create one. But then you are a bharati so year you would e that dumb and stupid. It is natural for you guys.

And denial seems to be your main religion. Islam is a distant second.

 

[313ghazi]

God, we are scared!
I think we will pack up and leave after such vociferous threats! Spare us your mighty wrath oh Kashmiri..lol

You were scared in the 90's, scared enough to beg Pakistan to bring freedom fighters to the discussion table, scared enough to stop patrolling who areas in Kashmir valley. You'll be scared again. As soon as we win the war in Afghanistan, those hired guns are going to be turned on you.

 

[Soumitra]

You were scared in the 90's, scared enough to beg Pakistan to bring freedom fighters to the discussion table, scared enough to stop patrolling who areas in Kashmir valley. You'll be scared again. As soon as we win the war in Afghanistan, those hired guns are going to be turned on you.

If we were that scared in the 90's and there was no war in Afghanistan, no war on terror then tell me why don't you control Kashmir.

Even nuclear weapons came at the fag end of the decade and their were no reliable delivery system.

If all these factors were in your favour why didn't you take Kashmir?

If India was, to quote your words, "begging Pakistan", why didn't you take advantage of that situation. Maybe thousands of stone pelters wouldn't be blinded

 

[313ghazi]

If we were that scared in the 90's and there was no war in Afghanistan, no war on terror then tell me why don't you control Kashmir.

Even nuclear weapons came at the fag end of the decade and their were no reliable delivery system.

If all these factors were in your favour why didn't you take Kashmir?

If India was, to quote your words, "begging Pakistan", why didn't you take advantage of that situation. Maybe thousands of stone pelters wouldn't be blinded

Nawaz Sharif. He's Indians greatest leader since Gandhi.