Army scuttles Arjun trials to push through T-90 purchase

[jiki]

This may be a little cheesy at times and will cause sensitive reactions.. but look at the arguments presented before going duke nukem on the video.
moreover, before you all jump on any "anti-India" guns as some juveniles will.. have a look at the channel of the poster..
he as taken pretty much everybody down.
BlacktailDefense's channel - YouTube

yes we hav already watched this as u are spreading it in every other thread...... look here no one is talking abt how bad or how good arjun is.Even if the author himself not seems to be , Ajaishukla of Broadsword is always famous for his more or less anti army articles but he always make some good points that u cant deny regarding indigenization of product .....but here we are talking abt the wrong practice of some corrupt high ranking generals .......and as far as vid is concerned merely a self made video is not the certification of whole arjuna project,(as there is only negativity abt it in this vid) yes we all know that there is a lot of mismanagement of this project in history but a lot more thing hav learned and implemented and at the end wht evolved tht yes arjun is agood product and it can fulfill all the primary requirement wht it was build for , nothing can be matched with its firepower....... wht abt the thrashing of T-90S against it in all respect in desert......... army dose not want it in nos that's a diff ball of game but remember it still have order of 250s and who knows the future , another chunk will come for any kinda lobbing by any one ...if it wouldn't have met the wishlist of army then remember army will not order for a single one also.

now come to the issue of heavy wt tht u r all arguing abt arjun , US army also operate heavy M1S becoz 4 them logistic isn't gonna be an issue , they have plenty of platforms to carry these heavy tanks unlike india where armoured brigades are largely stick on to its own region of operation , we dont have that luxury of large and heavy logistics platforms as some have , so this is just the 2ndry issue but as far as performance is concern arjun can withstand against any kind of tanks in the world (specially the firepower) and now we hav the arjun mk-2 , a total of 64 new changes have been incorporated with in it and 4 the new electronics and fire power mechanism it is now regarded as one of the best in the world.

 

[fast]

This may be a little cheesy at times and will cause sensitive reactions.. but look at the arguments presented before going duke nukem on the video.
moreover, before you all jump on any "anti-India" guns as some juveniles will.. have a look at the channel of the poster..
he as taken pretty much everybody down.
BlacktailDefense's channel - YouTube

Thanks for the informative videos. They show Arjun is failing in more ways than one can imagine. Indians are wise to buy 1000's of these to replace the T-92.

 

[PRINCE_THE_SHOWSTOPPER]

Said who? The DRDO and its bought "experts" made the 'Ferrari' statement to save the failed Arjun project. The pissant soldiers were just as corrupted, just not exposed yet.

then according to ur logic,"t-90 is superior than arjun" said who??? some generals against whom corruption charges are there??? this is a ridiculous comment that the "pissant" soldiers are corrupted..as no one is going to pay them bribes as they cannot help anyone..but for generals,they can help a private defence company with contracts worth billions

 

[帅的一匹]

If IA goes for more T-90, it will bury the Arjun project.

 

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then according to ur logic,"t-90 is superior than arjun" said who??? some generals against whom corruption charges are there??? this is a ridiculous comment that the "pissant" soldiers are corrupted..as no one is going to pay them bribes as they cannot help anyone..but for generals,they can help a private defence company with contracts worth billions

T-90 is superior than Arjun simply because Arjun is junk. It has failed in numerous categories - outdated designs, weakness in armor, gun with low accuracy, low mark in obstacle crossing, underpowered engine, overweighed, short range mobility, unable to fit in standard transport, on and on. Just because some lowly pissant solider able to drive it on FLAT desert ground doesn't mean it's any better.

 

[TR.1]

When did the arjun project start?

 

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When did the arjun project start?

Official proposal started on 1972 and design/development work started on 1974.

 

[TR.1]

Official proposal started on 1972 and design/development work started on 1974.

Seriousss its been 40 years, in 40 years you can build a country. Altay signed agreement to build 2008 started work on 2009-2010, 2012 prototype built 2014-2015 serial production.

 

[Abingdonboy]

T-90 is superior than Arjun simply because Arjun is junk. It has failed in numerous categories - outdated designs, weakness in armor, gun with low accuracy, low mark in obstacle crossing, underpowered engine, overweighed, short range mobility, unable to fit in standard transport, on and on. Just because some lowly pissant solider able to drive it on FLAT desert ground doesn't mean it's any better.

Absolute BS.

 

[jiki]

T-90 is superior than Arjun simply because Arjun is junk. It has failed in numerous categories - outdated designs, weakness in armor, gun with low accuracy, low mark in obstacle crossing, underpowered engine, overweighed, short range mobility, unable to fit in standard transport, on and on. Just because some lowly pissant solider able to drive it on FLAT desert ground doesn't mean it's any better.

uses wrong flag ...--------- use the real flag of your true nationality plzzzzz a kind request , this kind of statement only can be the proof of ur and ur national great illiteracy nothing else

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

T-90 is superior than Arjun simply because Arjun is junk. It has failed in numerous categories - outdated designs, weakness in armor, gun with low accuracy, low mark in obstacle crossing, underpowered engine, overweighed, short range mobility, unable to fit in standard transport, on and on. Just because some lowly pissant solider able to drive it on FLAT desert ground doesn't mean it's any better.

You are referring 2007 observation , when 2010 observation exists. stuck in a time warp i guess.

 

[Kinetic]

T-90 is superior than Arjun simply because Arjun is junk. It has failed in numerous categories - outdated designs, weakness in armor, gun with low accuracy, low mark in obstacle crossing, underpowered engine, overweighed, short range mobility, unable to fit in standard transport, on and on. Just because some lowly pissant solider able to drive it on FLAT desert ground doesn't mean it's any better.

What a retard!!! This false flag does not have any shame to hid3e behind US flag!!! The INDIAN SOLDIERS ARE WHAT HAVE SHOW YOU DURING 1971 WAR. You hate Arjun because it capabilities makes your pajama wet. Thats it. Making funny posts does not make a proven tank bad.

And source for the above?

Are you expecting a source from this retard? He is just another pissed off false flag trolling on Indian threads.

This may be a little cheesy at times and will cause sensitive reactions.. but look at the arguments presented before going duke nukem on the video.
moreover, before you all jump on any "anti-India" guns as some juveniles will.. have a look at the channel of the poster..
he as taken pretty much everybody down.
BlacktailDefense's channel - YouTube

Which point are you talking about? Give us few.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Seriousss its been 40 years, in 40 years you can build a country. Altay signed agreement to build 2008 started work on 2009-2010, 2012 prototype built 2014-2015 serial production.

Arjun design started when 3rd generation tanks did not exist. Naturally, we had to skip 2nd and 2.5 generation and jump to third generation.

and Arjun tanks have been inducted, while Altay is yet to be inducted.

 

[Omega007]

Guys,stop replying to that false flagging trol.And don't forget this is pdf,anything is granted for Pakistani members.

 

[PRINCE_THE_SHOWSTOPPER]

T-90 is superior than Arjun simply because Arjun is junk. It has failed in numerous categories - outdated designs, weakness in armor, gun with low accuracy, low mark in obstacle crossing, underpowered engine, overweighed, short range mobility, unable to fit in standard transport, on and on. Just because some lowly pissant solider able to drive it on FLAT desert ground doesn't mean it's any better.

then you do not have the updated knowledge about arjun
1.outdated designs: the design is absolute of a 21st century mbt... i think you have seen the pictures of an earlier prototype and not the the series produced
2.weakness in armour: hahah..the drdo developed kanchan armour has been able to withstand the fire of t-72 from point blank range without era.Even indian army has acknowledged the the armour of arjun is better than t-90
3.gun with low accracy: check out the other threads on arjun,army now wants drdo developed rifled gun than the russian made gun as russia is not giving us its gun technology and drdo's gun is better
4.low mark in obstacle crossing yes,but that problem has been fixed 5yrs ago,now not even the so called generals are not complaining about it
5.underpowered engine which was replaced years ago
6.short range mobility no problem with arjun's mobility,no one said it was "too heavy to move"
7.overweight: this is the sole issue why the IA is complaining,but never said it was immobile... then whats got to do with "weight"??? one would definitely think about the intentions then
an lastly,arjun was "tailor made" for the indian dessert,so a pissant soldier has been able to drive it on a "FLAT" desert ground.on the other hand t-90 suffered sunstrokes in the same desert ground...engine malfunctioned,computerised system failed..so how its better???