Army rescues 22 LUMS students from Rattu

[Windjammer]

You can travel on a broken road also to reach your destination but there is a purpose to have motorways and carpeted roads!

You can risk the road in a banger but not in Heli unless it's airworthy.

 

[pkd]

You actually believe that the majority if not all of the students at LUMS are marxist? I'm sure you have that on good authority?

It was the LUMS management that reached out to the army and made the SOS call and i haven't lately seen any push-back from their side as to the lunacy / abuse-fest going on their campus which is a kind of tacit endorsement.
When these libera-dors were up in arms against the military operations, it was these soldiers who were sacrificing their lives to fight the proxies so that these snow flakes can a build a snowman in a hailstorm.

 

[Lincoln]

Where is the liberal rescue brigade when you need them

Here. So what?

Just because Pakistan Army saved them, suddenly everything the Army does, right or wrong, will become justifiable?

jis tarah her insan ko mushkil main Allah yad aa jata hay iss tarah her pakistani ko pakistan main mushkil kay wakt Allah and army he save kertay hain. pak military jasi be hay it is for pakistanis but some of the pakistanis after getting some bribe from the enemies or after getting some so called education at abroad or at some private institutes in pakistan fall victim to our enemy's agenda and start barking against pak ideology, pak military etc.
her desi liberal lady ko jab difficult time ata hay to uss ka sir pay dupatta ya chadar aa jati hay warna sar cover kernay wali ko backward he tassawur kerti hay.

Lets look at what some dictators have done for pak.

Ayub - labelled Fatimah Jinnah as a RAW agent.

Yahya - '71 failure.

Zia - extreme islamisation, kalashnikov culture, refugee crisis, drug crisis

Musharraf - bending over for america

Will they? I take you've spent a lot of time with these LUMS students? Attended many such seminars?



Is there any proof that those three comments were left by students of LUMS. Students who are the official representatives of the thousands that attend that university?



You actually believe that the majority if not all of the students at LUMS are marxist? I'm sure you have that on good authority?



Don't fall for these idiotic comments. Guarantee you that none of them actually know anything at all about how it is at that university.



Yeah, no. It was never "sponsored by retired Army high ranks and elites". Please stop producing moronic facts out of nothing.



Care to explain how?





No it wasn't. LUMS is the brain child of Babar Ali. The US aid was provided for the initial construction of a new LUMS campus. It was routed through the government of Pakistan. Quite few other universities received US aid during that time as well. LUMS had been operating for years before it received that aid.

Nobody calls the shots there except for the board. Babar Ali isn't even involved in the universities matters. You can actually go there today and ask to see the board, if you'd like.



Are they really? Pray do tell us how and why.

Everyone here is very insecure about activists. LUMS does produce liberals and so do most private institutions in Pakistan; because free thinking is highly encouraged.

Their problem is why they're doing activism. They would rather pretend that everything is okay and act blind.

Or, better still heli drop them into Delhi en route to Lahore. Then, they'd have a "life lesson" on Two Nation Theory, Pak, Jinnah, Muslim Ordu, nukes etc...

I recon you keep out of it.

Sir LUMS though situated in Cantonment area and being sponsored by retired Army high ranks and elites yet since past few years has become a center point of anti Islamic and anti Military activities. It is a big question mark for military itself and sponsors of the institution. Debate for betterment is good but not to defame own ideology.

The only thing LUMS provides is a safe environment for free thinking.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I recon you keep out of it.

Can't just play "dead" to the call from the "brotherhood of conservatives"!!! These "liberals" are taking away our kids from us like the "Pied piper of Hamelin" in the name of "free thinking"!!! By the by, in my current place the epitome of "free thinking" is equivalent to glorifying the LGBT life style...

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Where is the liberal rescue brigade when you need them

they are chocking on their hypocrisy
just waiting for some other favorable news to bitch on army for sure.
until then they will keep hiding like they did last year February.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Don't fall for these idiotic comments. Guarantee you that none of them actually know anything at all about how it is at that university.

You're right about the school in this subject. However, I do have some understanding how it's done in other "liberal" schools! For example, in my alma mater, which used to admit top 1% of the high school grads, students played "football" with the Kuran-i Kerim!! And, they put fire into the car of the US ambassador! Later, the "commando" units were para dropped to retake the campus....

 

[blain2]

Yes and we keep telling around about Saudis funding Madarsas.

"The Advisory Board members include Prof. James Lallou Wescoat JR (Chairperson Advisory Board SBASSE and MIT, USA), Prof. Sally Merrick Benson (Stanford University, USA), Prof. Khalid Aziz (Stanford University, USA), Prof. Muhammad Hamid Zaman (Boston University, USA), Prof. Michael Gerard Pecht (University of Maryland, USA), Dr. Hassan Masud Ahmed (CEO and Chairman, Sonus Networks, USA), Dr. Dara Entekhabi (MIT, USA), Dr. Khaled Letaief (Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, China), Dr. Sarfraz Khurshid (University of Texas, USA)and Dr. Khurram Afridi (Cornell University, USA)."

This is a diverse board. Good on LUMS. I think you are pointing the same out, right?

 

[gangsta_rap]

mummy daddy

 

[Enigma SIG]

Army should've stayed in the barracks and let these libturds freeze to death. They should've been chanting civilian supremacy all along and refused to board an Army helicopter to be saved.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

18th amendment by PPP, N league have personal relationship with india achakzai ptm wants to be with afghanistan who really their for Pakistan and for Pakistani we all see in every crises only Pak Army stands with us.

 

[Xestan]

There are children of retired/military officers attending LUMS. It can have its socialist, leftist leanings and it is fine.

My humble opinion is that as a country, it is healthy to have some diversity of thoughts and ideas. Some critique has merit, some does not. But what we should not do is try to muzzle or shut down contrarian opinions. Why would we want to subject ourselves to group-think? Zia's overt Islamization did that to us. We need to stick to the middle of the road and that can only happen when you have opinions from both sides.

Thank you for saying this. Just look at the comments. If you criticise something and talk about human rights, the military of your country should not rescue you in the hour of need, the purpose for which the military is raised in the first place. Difference of opinion and expression is a sign of progression of a nation, some just cannot digest it.

Even though I wont agree with whatever she says, but she has a point here. Criticise the institution when it crosses boundaries, like any other department of the Government does. Nobody should be above criticism.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1219433924566441985

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

No it wasn't. LUMS is the brain child of Babar Ali. The US aid was provided for the initial construction of a new LUMS campus. It was routed through the government of Pakistan. Quite few other universities received US aid during that time as well. LUMS had been operating for years before it received that aid.

Nobody calls the shots there except for the board. Babar Ali isn't even involved in the universities matters. You can actually go there today and ask to see the board, if you'd like.

Firstly, if you or any of your family/friends graduated from LUMS there is no need to be defensive or embarrassed by any of this..
This happens all over the world.Commis funded institutions in our country to produce comrads.US did the same.Not just that us has footprints on some other institutions.This is a recognized vertical under the US aid and development program where they produce US influenced thinkers and contributors in a society.
Babar Ali's LUMS would have not seen the light and height unless Americans would have stepped in and helped him purchase land for campus in late 80s and successive collaboration following it. Babar Ali himself was America's blue-eyed boy , who also served as a finance minister..oh more than that he was part of board members of 'Council on Foreign Relations and Asia society.Do you know what that implies? Illuminati...He and his family are rockefellerians..He is actually a very close friend of David and Nelson Rockefeller.He was a member of the board of int. advisory for CFR.
https://www.cfr.org/sites/default/files/report_pdf/CFR_annual_report_2006.pdf So LUMS is part of their global web.

 

[R Wing]

and these LUMS students will go back and conduct seminar on human rights abuses of Pak Army and how it lost all the wars and how unruly and rouge this Army is.

the new buzzword/phrase is "radical secularism."

 

[Signalian]

The institution (Army) did as it was ordered by its head (COAS).
Case closed.

However, opportunists have found yet another opportunity to speak their issues, irrelevant to this rescue.

 

[B.K.N]

Difference of opinion and expression is a sign of progression of a

Not difference of opinion but anti Pakistan propaganda. Army bahana ha Pakistan nishana ha