You are missing the whole point about LCA read the post no 603 again. LCA was a technology demonstrator then after a long time the funds were given for creating a fighter. So money is not there so F 16 is getting used. F 35 is available for sales to everybody in NATO why not buying money is not there in developed countries? read the history about slippages in f 35 program.
So from 1916 the tanks are the same no changes have happened?
Financing and doctrine are made when you save money and use it wisely there is no infinite money available. You use a decent product which may not be with all top of the line gadgets and use it effectively
You have seen discovery and typing it here. Has the DGMF has given the requirement till now? From two years they are running a circus have you heard the results of the seminar for designing a future tank just held in new delhi? No result what will be the future. Nothing has came out and nothing concrete will come out. Because no body has seen the future.
Oh great give some statistics to say that T 90 is cheaper.
What is the solution IAF is asking. Ha ha ha 10-15 years how the hell you came out with this figure. Simply trolling around. If that can be built in 2-3 years in US then why need DRDO right? Scrap the organization? Is that is what you are implying? Previous para what you talked about funding. Is the same funding is available to DRDO? No according to you first build a greatest ever product then the funding will be given. Oh but how to build a greatest ever product. ouch you need funding. Ouch........ So what is the solution?
How it is better? Oh you have read the brochure so it is better. Is it getting accepted in RuAF. Answer is NO. This one is only built for Indian MRCA competition. Any other country will use this.. May be or may be not. But RuAF will use it? Definitely NOT. So who will fund for the whole life cycle? The answer is IAF. This customer seller relationship is very good excuse when you just don't want to support the industry domestically. Everybody knows where the Indian industry stands as compared to developed world. it needs support. If you be a hard nosed customer then slowly you stop getting response. just google about what happened to the tender issued by IA about ultra light howitzers. No body in the world responded. you know whay? Because no body is able to meet the parameters. So what is the end result of being asking for the best of the best of the best. IA got NOTHING. And who is suffering for those buggers sitting in the purchase department of the DGMF the ordinary soldier.{
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Bull crap. So now cricket and basket ball are equivalent to R&D gr8 going.
Again a crap. Not understanding a basic thing. If you want to build an industry then you need to support it by accepting it's products. you can't keep on changing the requirements and make an excuse that this is not there that is not there. There has to be some start. Some where you need to start. Is it so difficult to understand?
So when no body is giving you something then only you turn to domestic industry. Otherwise you will buy from foreign industry?
Useless argument. A plane is not purchased as one plane. Get your basics right and talk this is a ridiculous argument.
So the only way to choose LCA is to have sanctions everywhere?
Boss check the chanhrayaan.
How this figure of 30 year has came? Why the hell other countries will give you the technology know how from which they earn money? Check the hungama of T 90 tech transfer?
So these organizations are for time pass. Waste the money in R&D and buy another product. Waste the whole money for supporting the other's industry. Instead why not put the money in supporting the domestic industry. It does not mean that completely choke off the imports. It is known that internal industries are not the best of the best of the nest. But it is as simple as this that now our industries are in a position for building a decent product which might/might not be the best of the best of the best. But it is decent product. let's cut down some imports and invest in improving the home grown product. So the money can be utilized in a good way. Is it so difficult to understand?
What are you saying here? What is squadron strength as of now and how much is needed. Do you know this. Or you are simply doing BS. There is no money available to buy these many planes from outside because those are costly. Please get your basics correct and the comment
No body is saying to stop purchasing the t 90 it is only about purchasing the arjun at a decent numbers because the tank fleet consists of 3500 tanks. And these can be easily incorporated.
Now you have taken a complete turn. read your posts above you have said that the arjun can't run in desert because it is heavy whether t 90 can and it was tested to be used there. but the problem is that the electronics doesn't work at the heat of the desert. that is why AC is required. So it is not a TEETHING PROBLEM. It is a huge problem a very BIG ONE. Because the arjun was rejected because of this.
How prove it.
Prove it
enlighten me with your wast knowledge sir
Again check the picture of georgia conflict what happened to those t 72 which were having ERA also. there are plenty available on net.
What is the point here then?
Easier said then done. Let us see when they come out with specifications from two years they are doing the circus and will keep doing it for how much time I don't know
I still buy celeron. I don't use the core 2 duos and all. Because celeron is fulfilling my need. This is simple crying for the best of the best of the best. Without knowing whether there is need of that or not.
So you will buy LCA only when others will not sell you?
Again repeating my self
India is not a developed country it is a developing country. It is short of funds in almost every arena. To become developed nation we need to spend our money wisely. It means that India has to develop her industry in every sphere. Some where there will be little lapses but that does not mean to completely abandon the areas completely. India can import certain things until domestic industry comes up with a similar product. Once it comes up with one. It need not to be necessarily the BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST. But it means that reduce imports NOT COMPLETELY CUT THE IMPORTS. Support that product with a decent order and try to work with the industry to improve it. IT MAY NOT BECOME THE BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST. But it will be a decent platform to learn because it is used in some real service and experience is gained. This will help in better understanding in the next version. And may be someday only domestic product will be used and imports will be not needed. Again it may not be THE BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST. But it will service the forces in a decent way.
Is it so difficult to understand?