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yes it will take the indian army to induct these tanks post 2020 which will be 15 years from now and that seems reasonable to me.....15 years is a lot of time and with the cooperation of private sectors and the russians i believe we can do it.

to be honest I think the future tank will include more of a unmanned turret. I don't think so it will be completely unmanned. But it will definitely include high degree of net centricity and some new weapons like CLGM with improved range something of sort 8-10km
 
to be honest I think the future tank will include more of a unmanned turret. I don't think so it will be completely unmanned. But it will definitely include high degree of net centricity and some new weapons like CLGM with improved range something of sort 8-10km
anything is possible it may be manned or unmanned ,the future is very unpredictable and only time will tell and we will all be present to hear that....but yes manned mbts with unmanned turrets seem to be more realistic.
 
anything is possible it may be manned or unmanned ,the future is very unpredictable and only time will tell and we will all be present to hear that....but yes manned mbts with unmanned turrets seem to be more realistic.

Hey any concrete info available on the future tank seems to be unavailable but unmanned well that seems too far off
 
guys check this:

India Today - The most widely read newsweekly in South Asia.

All dressed up and no takers

Sandeep Unnithan
September 5, 2008

Space is at a premium at the Heavy Vehicles Factory (HVF) in Avadi on the outskirts of Chennai. But these are no ordinary motor cars which need parking. Rows of battle tanks lie jammed, spilling out of the factory premises. Parking a monster that is the size of a city bus but at 60 tonne weighs heavier than a railway coach, is no easy task.

Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) officials have asked for parking space at the nearby Combat Vehicles R&D Establishment (CVRDE) that designed the tank, even as they worry about sheltering their monsters and its electronics from the elements.

In the past four years, over 90 Arjun main battle tanks have rolled off the production line that made India's first indigenous tank-part of an order for 124 tanks that was placed six years ago.

In late August this year, the army completed nearly a year of what it calls Accelerated User Cum Reliability Trials (AUCRT) and somewhat unprecedented, extended trials in the desert of Rajasthan.

Trials that tested the three characteristics of any battle tank-firepower, mobility and protection. From all accounts the tank finally morphed from a white elephant into an extreme battle machine worthy of its moniker.

So far 15 Pre-Production Series (PPS) tanks have completed a cumulative 80,000 km, or the equivalent of two trips around the world, and fired over 8,000 rounds.


The Arjun tankTwo tanks covering over 6,000 km or nearly twice the distance they are supposed to cover in 10 years. Now, the army is poring over the trial reports to decide whether the crowded tank lot at Avadi will equip at least three of the army's 61 armoured regiments.

There's just a catch. The army has pronounced its verdict. It wants more tanks-armoured fists that are used to punch through enemy lines and an essential component of its Cold Start battle strategy-but it does not want the Arjun.

Speaking at a recent CII seminar on the Future Main Battle Tank (FMBT), Lt General Dalip Bharadwaj, director general, Mechanised Forces said the army will not place orders for Arjun beyond the 124 already on order because it is "now looking 20 years ahead and wants a futuristic MBT".

His predecessor, Lt General (retd.) K.D.S. Shekhawat is blunter. "The DRDO does not want to own up, the Arjun is based on the German Army's Leopard-1 design which entered service in the mid-1960s. It outlived its life over a decade ago.

Today, every tank in the world, including the Leopard-2 and T-90, have sloped turrets (to reduce the impact of a hit) but the Arjun still continues with the rectangular turret."

The DRDO is combative and not only because the project is the baby of the current chief M. Natarajan. "The Arjun can handle all present and future threats," says the DRDO.

This war of words between the army and DRDO could well be among the penultimate chapters in the long sad story of a saga that began with the army placing General Staff Qualitative Requirement (GSQR) for an indigenous tank in May 1974.

The project was to cost Rs 15.50 crore and to be completed in a decade. The first production model of 'Chetak', as it was then called, which rolled out in 1984, was wisely renamed the Arjun.

Plagued by technical glitches—its European electronics did not work in the searing circuit—melting 50 degree heat of the Thar desert-the final production series tank was not delivered until 1995 or a decade after the original deadline.


Arjun tanks at the Heavy Vehicles Factory in ChennaiPerhaps the DRDO strategically overreached itself on this project as it had on several others. It agreed to deliver everything on the tank when it should have gone in for a no-frills Mark 1. This was clearly not the case when the tank was due for induction into service by an already extended deadline of 1995 and an exasperated army did not get its tanks.

The army, which has around 3,500 tanks in 61 armoured regiments—each with 45 tanks, mostly T-72s imported and licence-produced from Russia in the early '80s serving as first line MBTs-has this complaint. The Arjun did not come on time.

Not even when the acquisition of 300 Ukranian missile-firing T-80s UD MBTs by Pakistan in 1997 dangerously tilted the balance of armoured power on the subcontinent. (Tanks can only be used on the deserts and plains of India's western borders).

Even during Operation Parakram, the near-war with Pakistan in December 2001, the army found its T-72s, obsolete T-55s and Vijayantas staring down the gunsights of the more modern T-80s. There was no sign of the Arjun.

Delays in productionising the design ensured the order for 124 tanks was not placed to the OFB until 2002 and production did not begin until 2004 or nearly three decades after the project had been conceived. "The Arjun was not available when we needed it," says a senior army official.

The army was hence forced to import 310, T-90 tanks from Russia in 2001 to sharpen the tip of its armoured spear. The door had begun to close on the Arjun which was still jumping through the hoops of the army's trials.

Even as the tank struggled to meet GSQRs, the army would add new demands citing delays and changes in the global scenario. "The army's GSQR was always a moving goal post," says a DRDO-armoured vehicle scientist. "You cannot have a tank with the best-of-the-world-systems."

Yet the Arjun managed to do this and more. Some of the state-of-the-art technologies incorporated in the tank include a modern fire control system with Fire Control Computer and multiple rocket system-which gives it the ability to blast targets placed over a km away while on the move, a gas-based suspension, a unique 'Kanchan' composite armour capable of withstanding direct hits from T-72 and T-90 tanks , lethally accurate fin-stabilised armour piercing discarding sabot ammunition and kinetic energy penetrators which can shatter enemy tanks, Nuclear-Biological-Chemical protection not to speak of the ability of the 60-tonne monster to spin full circle on a coin in 12 seconds.

During the desert trials which concluded last week the tanks also rectified two problems raised by Army Chief General Deepak Kapoor during a visit to the CVRDE in May-premature failure of engine transmission and gun accuracy.

However, it finds that the army has shifted the goal posts again. This time, to over the horizon. "Arjun is a contemporary tank and may be used in the next decade or so, but not for next generation warfare some two decades hence," says Bharadwaj.

In the meantime, the army has gone ahead and ordered an additional 330 T-90 tank kits and another 1,000 T-90s from Russia to be assembled at the HVF, Avadi, a deal that actually saved Russia's largest tank manufacturer, Ural Vagon Zavod from shutdown.

By 2020, the army hopes to field a force of over 21 regiments of T-90 tanks and 40 regiments of modified T-72s. The DRDO has been arguing for a slice of the pie-a mix of heavy tanks including the Arjun and medium tanks like the T-72 and T-90.

But the army is not convinced. It has rejected the DRDO's offer of Arjun Mark-2-featuring uprated engines, digital fire control and a battlefield management system with the ability to 'talk' to other assets, which it claims it can field in five years.

The army insists it wants nothing short of a futuristic tank. Yet, despite repeated reminders over the past two years, the army is yet to even furnish the DRDO its requirements.

Has the door been closed on Arjun? Not just yet. Senior Defence Ministry officials have indicated an order for a second batch of modified 124 Arjun tanks as a face-saver for the DRDO and that would be the end of the programme. "After that we want the DRDO to focus on building the FMBT."


The army will buy over 1,600 T-90s in 12 yearsThe DRDO which says it needs an order of at least 376 more tanks to breakeven on the project investments of around Rs 370 crore is now scrambling to integrate Arjun-2 features on the promised second batch.

The DRDO is also pressing for comparative trials of the Arjun with the T-90 known as the 'Bhishma' in the army, in Rajasthan later this year. It is a desperate rearguard action where the agency hopes to repeat mythology, but this is a contest the army is keen to avoid. "It's just a ploy to fool the bureaucrats," snarls a senior army official.

The army concedes that the Arjun programme was a learning experience—on how not to execute a project and the necessity for closer user-interface. "As users we did not get adequately involved in the project as say the navy does," says Shekhawat. "Army officers posted on the project reported to the DRDO and not to army HQ. In the end, the DRDO did not get honest advice," he says.

The battle over the Arjun is not just about a tank. It is about the shaky but obligatory path of building of indigenous defence capability. Why for instance, India's stunning success in the space industry has not translated into defence industry?

These are matters which transcend the bean counters at service headquarters into the realm of higher national strategic planning. India already has the dubious distinction of being the world's second largest importer of defence items, abjectly dependent on foreign suppliers who sit on the UN Security Council, where it aspires to be-to supply basics like tanks and fighter aircraft.

There are some answers under the hood of the Arjun—only the third complete defence system produced indigenously after the Akash medium-range surface-to-air missile and the Pinaka rocket system.

A raft of systems made indigenously talks about the tremendous force-multiplier effect of this programme. Its gearbox is common with the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft and indigenous gas-based suspension compares with the best in the world.

Sure, nearly 60 per cent of the components of the first batch of 124 tanks, including the German-built power pack are imported. The DRDO says these will be reduced to under 30 per cent after it builds 500 tanks.

"We are not ashamed of the delays but ashamed of the fact that we cannot sell it within our own country," says a senior DRDO scientist. An Arjun with no takers in India. That would be a tragedy of epic proportions.

Why the Arjun is grounded

Army’s view

Arjun is horribly late. Should have been inducted a decade ago when Pakistan began inducting T-80s.
Requirements changed because DRDO took time to deliver first batch of tanks.
Tank is good but relevant only for 10-15 years. We want future tanks.
Don’t want Arjun-2. Are importing over 1,600 T-90 tanks from Russia.
DRDO should work on Future MBT design for the army

DRDO view

Development cycle and delays in productionising the tank at OFB. Army kept changing requirements.
Army always wanted ‘best in the world’ systems and we had to satisfy them.
Order 376 more Arjuns, we’ll give you a more sophisticated Arjun-2.
Take the T-90s but also order 500 indigenous Arjuns.
Army yet to give us FMBT design for two years now.
 
I hope this is not the final nail in the coffin:

Russia and India Agree to Transfer of Key Technology for T-90 Tanks

After two day-long intensive deliberations between the two countries, Russia has agreed to supply specifications of the T-90 tank barrels to India by the end of this year. The delay has prevented India from commencing production of the T-90 tanks at its own Avadi Heavy Vehicles Factory.

According to Defense Ministry Spokesman, Sitanshu Kar:
“The talks were held in a highly professional manner. Sides expressed their readiness to take all the necessary measures to further develop cooperation on a mutually beneficial basis.”

What does this new agreement with Russia mean for India?
The agreement promises a new independence for India as that country will soon be able be to produce these weapon platforms indigenously without the help of Russia. The two countries signed agreements for the delivery of almost 1,200 T-90 tanks for the staggering cost of 1.2 billion US dollars. The deal, which will conclude over the next five years, also provides to India the transfer of technology for the production of another 1,000 to 1,500 tanks. Moscow has also agreed to full product support for the production of these tanks.

The agreement clarifies the position of the Indian army, which is forced to continue to rely on mainly Russian tanks. The indigenous Indian Arjun tanks, have not yet passed important induction trials.

What does the future hold for both countries?
The joint development of a 5th generation fighter aircraft may also be in the works. Although the aircraft design has not been finalized, the two countries have agreed to ensure that this new fighter plane will be in service by the year 2015.

And for the rest of us, what kind of tanks can we expect to produce in the next five years or so? I for one don’t know, and wouldn’t venture a guess, but maybe somewhere there’s someone who….wants to make a deal?
 
I hope this is not the final nail in the coffin:

Nope, it is not relevant to arjun at all.
The first statement of the article is what it is all about. Until now, t-90s were all Russian skds/ckds. now we can build from a more lower level.
 
Nope, it is not relevant to arjun at all.
The first statement of the article is what it is all about. Until now, t-90s were all Russian skds/ckds. now we can build from a more lower level.

It has relevance. With the things cleared up, DGMF will find one more reason for not accepting arjun. Like now we have T 90 production running so leave arjun project get involved in fmbt and all.
 
Indian Arjun vs Pakistani Al-Khalid: A comparitive analysis

The author is an Indian Retd. Major. Project Arjun, a sitter for Pak MBT Al-Khalid: By: Major General M. L. Popli (retd.)


Pakistani Al Khalid tank


Failed Indian tank called Arjun. India dissatisfied with the project has ordered 500 T-90 Russian tanks


India’s main battle tank Project Arjun is, unfortunately, more flab than brawn. More a heavyweight than a performer. A potpourri really, with a French engine, and German seals fitted into an Indian hull and turret. And transporting this heavyweight is going to be another problem, which could limit its operational performance.

Project Arjun has indeed suffered throughout its development, from confusion and inexplicable delays. And by imbalances between the Army, the DRDO and the bureaucracy. Pakistan by contrast, has drawn a lesson from the Indian experience and avoided the trap of over lasting her R&D’s indigenous know-how in the development of its MBT Khalid.


India’s main Battle Tank (MBT) Project Arjun, named after mythical hero of the Mahabharat, was conceived in 1974. It was then planned that by 1995, about 10 armoured regiments of the Indian Army would be re-equipped with Arjun. Depending excessively on research and development, advanced industrial and defence production base, project Arjun was planned entirely to be under taken by the scientists and the engineers indigenously.

Almost six different agencies have been at work on this project, besides a number of subsidiary organizations. Published reports revealed that after a number of prototypes and pre-production models spread over the last 16 years or so, own Defence and Research Development Organization has managed to produce an over 60 tons tank. Some armour experts have termed it as more of a heavyweight than a performer, more of flabbiness than mobile fire power.

Arjun mounts a 120mm rifled gun deadly in lethal power but wanting in accuracy. Its performance in various trails was reported to be anything but up to the mark. It is believed that during in March 1990, General V. N. Sharma, the then Army Chief of Staff and an armoured expert, was “quite wild” when only three of the five rounds hit the 5X5 meter target and no hit was scored against a moving target.

Its trial performance stands in sharp contrast to that claimed by the DRDO that the tank’s main gun would hit a target 60X60 cm from a distance of 2000 meter. In another similar field trial a month earlier, only four of the five rounds had hit a 5X5 meter target at 1100 meter. Incidentally, such accuracy trials are generally related to the height of the tanks, usually 2 meter high.

Arjun was basically planned as an ambitious project with complete indigenous components and assemblies.

It has now been revealed that the Arjun’s sub-systems were all imported except for the hull and the turret. The imported assemblies include all major sub-systems such as engine, transmission, track-suspension, gin and fire control. Our experts are of the view that their integration, “leaves much to be desired”. The auxiliary power unit from France did not perfectly fit in the tank, with the German seals not meeting the General Staff qualitative requirements of withstanding temperatures up to 150 degree Centigrade. The barely measured up to 120 degrees. Arjun is therefore quite a “khichri” with the French engine, with German seals fitted into the Indian hull and turret mounting a not very accurate 120mm gun.

Armoured experts say that another problem thrown up by the heavyweight is its transportation. Arjun could present a lot of problem for transportation by railways particularly through certain portions of the system. This could impose very serious limitations on the Arjun’s operational performance. In most of the field armies, the tank transporters and assault bridges are not usually designed to take such heavy weights. These aspects mostly highlight the engineering and operational problems.

It would be worthwhile to example financial implications. Both the Controller and Auditor General (CAG) and Public Accounts Committee have been very critical of this project relating to as much as of the rising costs as well as inordinate delays. Our finance men generally been very unhappy both over the time and cost factor, originally sanctioned at Rs. 15 crore per copy, its costs have excalated to nearly double the original estimates. Dr. Raja Ramanna has stated that the bulk production of Arjun as Indian Army’s MBT would commence sometime in 1992 or so. Hopefully, the Arjun should be the medium through which our strike corps would achieve their objective.
Experience in the most advanced countries suggests that it takes nearly 20 years t develop and integrate a tank. However, appreciating our security environment it is necessary that a state of the art MBT should become available to our forces by 1994-95. To draw lesson for the future, it is essential to cover this aspect. Project Arjun throughout its development has suffered from confusion and perhaps also from avoidable indecisive delays. It has been dogged by grave imbalances between the DRDO, the bureaucracy and the Army. It took us nearly 15 years to appoint an expert senior Armoured Corps officers (Lt. Gen.) to coordinate the various loose ends. General Tripathi was the first incumbent.

As it is, project Arjun has involved the utilization of six major imported sub-systems and , there fore all this talk of idigneousness will not quite wash. Yet another lesson is that we should not put all our eggs in one basket and must have fall back position s and options, despite repeated setbacks - be these in the ongoing Arjun and the LCA projects and our earliest dismal experience on HF-24 Muruts.

While our success in missiles is definitely a feather in DRDO’s cap, the Arjun and LCA projects underlines, the need for a review at the political level whether India can support such wasteful expenditure and delays. This is an age of globalization and sharing of technology, along with co-sharing of benefits. We seem to have paid rather heavily for trying to do it ourselves in the vain hope of doing it better than all others elsewhere.

Perhaps the political factor and DRDO’s overconfidence may have been major limitations and our political masters and scientists as well as the users need to have a second look in such vital areas as defence. And now to take a look at the development of the MBT by our Western neighbors. Pakistani experts have apparently drawn a lesson from Indian experience in this field. They avoided the trap of an over estimating know how indigenous R&D” and industrial base. Fortunately, the bureaucratic working environments in this particular context are far more efficient and responsive in Pakistan with the need to Armed Forces being given a respected look, due partly to their role in
the affairs of the state.

Reports since last September continue to suggest that Pakistan has not only been implementing an ambitious project to upgrade her existing fleet of Chinese built T-59 tanks, but has also carried out successful production of her MBT prototypes. Besides upgrading its T-59 tanks, which number over 1300, Pakistan has also produced a new upgraded model designated T-69-2MP with a 105mm rifle bore gun and an improved fire control system. T-69-2MP which rolled out from the Heavy Rebuild Factory in December ‘90 is to be the Pak Army’s MBT till a totally new and vastly improved MBT-2000 Khalid, named after the famed Arab Conqueror Khalid Bin Walid, enters the operational service sometime in 1993-94. How did Pakistan acquire such a favorable lead?
Reports in February-March this year in the Pakistani media heralded the successful testing of a modern prototype tank at its Heavy Rebuild Factory (HRF) being redesignated as Heavy Defence Industries in the ancient University township of Taxila almost 40kms North of Islamabad. Project MBT-2000 Khalid is being executed in close collaboration with China’s NORINCO. A memorandum to this effect was signed between the two countries sometime in the late 80s. According to analysts MBT-2000 Khalid is rated more than a match for the Soviet supplied T-72 tanks held by our army.

Having completed the design and development of MBT-2000 Khalid project, a number of prototypes have been built for evaluation and trials under different conditions. The preliminary prototype is being handed over to Pakistan Army for field trials in June 1991. General Mirza Aslam Beg, the Pakistan Army Chief, while addressing the annual conference of commanding officers of tank regiments on March 17, 1991, at Nowshera (Ahmed Nagar being its Indian counterpart), further revealed that the production of this tank is expected to commence in 1993. A word, however needs to be mentioned about the Taxila Industrial Complex. This complex has come to be known as the Golden Triangle with its two sides comprising Heavy Mechanical Complex and the heavy Forge and Foundry. Once a total wildness, Taxila has developed into Pakistan’s single largest heavy industrial complex.

Together with the Wah Ordnance Factories Complex and further north the Kamra Aeronautical Complex, these reflect Pakistan’s determination to achieve indigenous industrial development and also that country’s well-planned efforts for self-reliance in vital areas of defence.
According to military analyst, Pakistan adopted a step-by-step approach towards the manufacture of its MBT-2000 Khalid, and this is the single most important reason for having stolen a march over India. They are of the opinion that the Indian project was too ambitious, whereas Pakistan’s approach was more systematic comprising the following phases:
Setting up of project 711 in the early 80s to rebuild the Chinese T-59 tanks inducted in Pakistan Army after the 1965 conflict with India. Some 1000 such tanks are being built and 2000 engines of tanks are being produced.

Project 711 was subsequently expanded and redesignated P-711-K (K in Chinese denotes extension). This project is designed to eliminate need for imported components up to 80 percent. More importantly, on a long term basis, P-711-K has been planned to establish production base for manufacture of complete MBT. It is learnt that once the production line for the MBT 2000 gets established, over 100 such tanks will start rolling out to give Pakistan a level of self-reliance undreamed of earlier. In this entire process (P-711 to 711-K), various series of tanks such as P-70, P-85, and finally P-90 (MBT-2000 Khalid) are being completed in phased manner.

Pakistan’s MBT-2000 Khalid will mount a 125mm gun with thermal image converter and will enter Pakistan’s operational service sometime by the mid-90s thus the T-series of tanks are being progressively converted into P-Series. Maximum effort has been devoted to getting the machine souped up as possible mainly to cut down weight. Just compare the 60 tons Arjun with the maximum 44 tons P-90 khalid.

Now that T-69-2MP2 has commenced entering Pakistan Army service succeeding the T-59 series and preceding MBT-2000 Khalid, it is essential to mention some details of this tank. It is equipped with 105mm gun with a more powerful engine, special armour for increased protection in the Pakistani built laser range finder and thermal image sighting system to maximize the gun range even in the hours of darkness.

It also has an integrated fire control system for reducing engagement time and increasing accuracy, along with the automatic fire support system. This tank’s most lethal component, the penetrater ammunition called Armour Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot (APFSDS), is also being indigenously produced. It will not be out of place to mention that bilateral discussions are already underway with USA on the possible co-production of the Abram M1A1 tank which proved its superiority in the recent Gulf war against Iraq. Pakistan has ruled out its purchase and signed an agreement in November ‘90 with the US company General Dynamics for establishing a rebuild factory for M-Series of tracked vehicles (M-47, M-45A2, M-68, A3 and M-113 and others).

This project has been designated P-87. Currently, a series of such closely related projects to manufacture hull, turret, gun barrels and engines are in various stages of planning-execution. All these will finally merged into a tank manufacturing factory that will produce MBT-2000 Khalid.

A comparison of the approaches on the production of MBT-2000 by India and Pakistan clearly highlights that in such areas where both research and development, as also the industrial base of a reasonably high level do not exist, it is in the overall interest of the country as also its armed forces that we should shed our political obsessions, bureaucratic ineptitude and the overestimated vanity of our DRDO. It can surely save the country vast amount of scarce funds while, at the same time , giving our armed forces the best weapons system. With the changes in Soviet Union and Eastern Europe , we definitely need to review our earlier approach in the sphere.
 
Oh ****. India going to loose war against pakistan. We indians better hide somewhere. Lol hahaha

What made you think like that? Why don't you consider peace with your neighbors? It is as simple as minding your own bussines and stop competing with Pakistan!
Don't let arjun loose your heart! it is little late but finally a day will come when all Russian tanks of india will be repalced by arjun.
if Pakistan can do it, india can also do it.
buckup india! bravo Pakistan.
 
some good news for arjun
outlookindia.com | wired

The winter trials of Arjun battle tanks were not a failure and 124 of these would be inducted into the Army by the end of the current fiscal, Government informed the Rajya Sabha today.

Replying to supplementaries during Question Hour, Defence Minister A K Antony admitted that there has been a delay in the project development of the main battle tank (MBT) as it was first taken up in August 1972.

However, "there is no question of any sabotage behind its delay and the winter (December 2007) trials were successful," the Minister said.

He said the project "was approved by Cabinet Committee on Political Affairs (CCPA) in March 1974... The project was successfully completed as MBT Arjun and closed in March 1995 at the end of 10 years with delivery of 12 prototypes and 15 pre-production series tanks".

These tanks have covered 70,000 km of automotive trials and fired 7,000 rounds of ammunition cumulatively with an average of 4,600 km and 460 rounds per tank, he said. "Only after successful trials, Army placed an indent for 124 MBT Arjun (tanks) to Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) in March 2000."

He told the Upper House that 14 tanks have been handed over to Army and 85 tanks are under various stages of production. Out of 14 tanks delivered to Army, two tanks have undergone Accelerated User Cum Reliability Trials in five phases from December 2007 onwards.

"Certain defects were observed ... Which have been analysed and rectified," he said.

Replying to another supplementary, the Defence Minister said though T-90 tanks are cheaper than Arjun, but India is focussing towards increasing the usage of indigenous tanks.

"Arjun tanks have better power to weight ratio, but we need both types of tanks for the Army. We are trying to have more and more Indian-made components in Arjun tanks ... And rely less on imports," Antony said.

On concerns about the delay in various projects of DRDO, Antony said some projects have got delayed due to various reasons, but at the same time, there have been success stories too.
 
Great!!!
The tank is better than the T series from russia.

So, Scrap the tank. Design a new one. Those damn Army policy makers should get their act together and send in a new requirement for a new generation tank. Atleast a sloping turret. If the Arjun could stop HEAT shells at point blank firing distance from a T-90, kudos to them. Now make them immune to depleted uranium shells too.

Whats the Army doing??????
 

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