Are TURKEY and PAKISTAN really ALLIES?

[beijingwalker]

I would have believe in you and how you and your nation feel about Pakistanis, only if I wasn't aware of general chinese attitude against ''darker skinned races''

Actually most Chinese may think Pakistani are white race people just like the people in nearby Xinjiang, when Chinese people think about ''darker skinned races'', we usaully only associate it with Africa.

But anway cowboy, what ever you say. Everyone sure can see the truth if they so choose.

I said already I never doubt Pakisatani public will side with Turkey any time of the day, I never denied it, but don't count their government always go your way.

 

[Turan09]

Actually most Chinese may think Pakistani are white race people like the people in nearby Xinjiang, when Chinese people think about ''darker skinned races'', we usaully only associate it with Africa.

Well, perhaps you should remind this tiny detail to your people since even some of the Turks subjected to racism because of their skin color but anyway... Like I said everybody can see the realty, one way or another.

I said already I never doubt Pakisatani public will side with Turkey any time of the day, I never denied it, but don't count their government always go your way.

Oh, I trust nobody. You don't need to remind me this.
Fight your own wars, win your own wars.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

When Pakistan was in dire needs, we saw Saudis and UAE offered help with billions

And they used the aid to shit our mouth against India on Kashmir and to stop us from attended Kuala Lumpur summit. Arab regimes are traitors and backstabbers.

Oh, I am not master of anything. We Turks don't like to behave like masters anyway. That's why for centuries people of Pakistan liked us more than their Indian cousins, remember? Thanks for your brotherhood.

Brorhwr, you are wrong here, we are not related to Indians by race, actually Afghans are our cousins. Please look at IVC and Iranic migrations of Scythians, Hepthalites, and others for the history of Pakistan.

We have a section here for that purpose.

It was you who compared us, perhaps you should listen your own advice.
I would have believe in you and how you and your nation feel about Pakistanis, only if I wasn't aware of general chinese attitude against ''darker skinned races'' But anway cowboy, what ever you say. Everyone sure can see the truth if they so choose.

Pakistanis are not generally dark skinned, although we do have some in Central/Southern Punjab, inner Sindh, Karachi, and Makrani coast of Balochistan. Most of us are medium colored, but a significant portion of the country are light skinned.

Actually most Chinese may think Pakistani are white race people just like the people in nearby Xinjiang, when Chinese people think about ''darker skinned races'', we usaully only associate it with Africa.

Thanks for setting the record straight.

@Turan09 Come visit Pakistan next time you get a chance, you will love it.

 

[beijingwalker]

And they used the aid to shit our mouth against India on Kashmir and to stop us from attended Kuala Lumpur summit. Arab regimes are traitors and backstabbers.

I seriously don't mind of you shitting on me if you gave me billions of dollars.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I seriously don't mind if you shit on me if you gave me billions of dollars.

No amount of money can buy the love we have for Kashmiris from our hearts. If we had known the strings attached that aid from Gulf, we would have rejected it.

On that note, thanks to China and Turkey for always supporting the Kashmiri freedom cause.

19 month Kashmiri pellet gun victim of Indian invaders.

 

[Khan vilatey]

This is soooooooo pointless. So this guy is trying to say that Turkey has a trading relationship with India which is bigger than Pakistan as India is 10 times larger in terms of population. based on this his hypothesis is that Turkey and Pakistan are not allies.


Here is what the khan asks.....so Turkey upgrading Pakistani f-16 , submarines and army equipment to be used against India is not because these countries are allies

The fact that turkey supplied arms and fuel to Pakistan during all India and Pakistan’s conflicts is because turkey and India are allies. It’s just that turkey likes to kill its Indian allies soldiers.

And the Turkish prime minister came to speak at the Pakistani parliament and told its ally India that Kashmir is part of Pakistan.

So is Turkey a Pakistani ally or Indian ally I will let you decide

KV

 

[vishwambhar]

I will be honest there, india is rich. Economically there is no comparison between you and them. They are as a state god damn rich. And best part is, they don't have a national defence industry, it is appetizing, much more than Pakistan ever will be... They were ready to pay 2.3 billion dollars only for support ships... 2.3 billions only for the support ships!
Now, this was all about the gaining the support of the Turkish State. A simple trick, now imagine the guys who wanna pay 2.3 billion dollars only for the support ships... how much they would pay for other products? They don't buy from us because we are supporting you, otherwise, we would just got our piece from the cake. And this cake is big and looks delicious.
But there is a law, ''Turkish Defence Companies can't sell ''lethal'' weapons to india'' This is our law. Is it logical? According to your opinion, no. According to you we would have go for it.
And my friend, this is perhaps a difference between your logic and mine. We don't sell our friends for money.


I am not against this, infact, I agree. Today's friend might be the tomorrows enemy. The problem is that people who express Turkey would sell Pakistan if there is a better option. And they are using this false theory to justify their hypocritical ideas. My problem is with it. There was a better option for us. Much better than Pakistan much richer than Pakistan, but unlike your saudi brothers for example, we didn't sell you.
Now people can avoid our sacrifices if they so choose, but that doesn't mean I am not gonna tell to their faces that they are all hypocritical, ignorant fools.
I was clear I hope.

Wow we don't have a national defense industry.... Seems idlib humilation has affected your brain... All these products such as our ballistic missiles, nuclear weapons homemade nuclear submarines and warships are from our own national defense industry.... Support warships we only now buy when our own docks are busy.... Or else we are building our own corvets, destroyers, nuclear submarine and homemade Air craft carrier will start sea trials soon.... We are way ahead of Turkey when it comes to missiles and space tech....
I'm not saying we are not buying.... Off course we are buying as there is still long way for us to go before we become completely independent for our needs but so does Turkey.... Don't ever think about Turkey getting a pie in tasty cake as India's days are not that bad where it will have to import third grade Turkish weapons... Ohh wait "Lethal Turkish weapons" which could not even help you win against rag tag Assad forces who kicked you in rear.... We are a nuclear power with ICBMs and SLBM being inducted.... We don't need your third grade weapons....

Cake look big and tasty Hah...

 

[PeacefulWar]

They seemed to fare pretty well after they left China, but when they were still here, they were just another barbarian nomadic tribe among dozens of other similar tribes in China.

Do we really need to bring such bullshit? No matter what it was.
Sometimes I really wonder what makes you so active in this forum, you basically bring negative effects to China.
Same to some Turkey trollers.

China and Turkey are not enemy in any measurements.
What the fucking wrong with people in this forum.

 

[beijingwalker]

Do we really need to bring such bullshit? No matter what it was.
Sometimes I really wonder what makes you so active in this forum, you basically bring negative effects to China.
Same to some Turkey trollers.

China and Turkey are not enemy in any measurements.
What the fucking wrong with people in this forum.

I don't care what you think, cause that's only what you think, I m not the only Chinese having disagreements with Turks here,lots of Chinese memebers were banned because of it, how long have you been in this forum?

No amount of money can buy the love we have for Kashmiris from our hearts. If we had known the strings attached that aid from Gulf, we would have rejected it.

On that note, thanks to China and Turkey for always supporting the Kashmiri freedom cause.

19 month Kashmiri pellet gun victim of Indian invaders.

The problem is he kind of claims that Pakistan owes Turkey some favor for Turkey's speaking for Pakistan over Kashmir issues, didn't Pakistan speak for Turkey over Syria, Cyprus, Armenia, Kurdish and various other issues? Turkey actually has more issues than Pakistan does.

 

[Malik Alpha]

This is soooooooo pointless. So this guy is trying to say that Turkey has a trading relationship with India which is bigger than Pakistan as India is 10 times larger in terms of population. based on this his hypothesis is that Turkey and Pakistan are not allies.


Here is what the khan asks.....so Turkey upgrading Pakistani f-16 , submarines and army equipment to be used against India is not because these countries are allies

The fact that turkey supplied arms and fuel to Pakistan during all India and Pakistan’s conflicts is because turkey and India are allies. It’s just that turkey likes to kill its Indian allies soldiers.

And the Turkish prime minister came to speak at the Pakistani parliament and told its ally India that Kashmir is part of Pakistan.

So is Turkey a Pakistani ally or Indian ally I will let you decide

KV

OP is a known Turkish hater and Iranian boot licker. So he is kind of obliged to post stupid content.

 

[PakistaniJunior]

I don't care what you think, cause that's only what you think, I m not the only Chinese having disagreements with Turks here,lots of Chinese memebers were banned because of it, how long have you been in this forum?



The problem is he kind of claims that Pakistan owes Turkey some favor for Turkey's speaking for Pakistan over Kashmir issues, didn't Pakistan speak for Turkey over Syria, Cyprus, Armenia, Kurdish and various other issues? Turkey actually has more issues than Pakistan does.

It is members like these that tend to annoy me the most be they Chinese or Turkish. The reason i am more inclined to Sino-pak relations is because the chinese tend to like us for who we are, Pakistanis. So it's alot more mutual and equal.

With Pak-Turk it's kind of imbalanced whether others may agree with me or not.

 

[PradoTLC]

But problem is that you turned your nation into a security state...

thanks to india's hostility

Rather than asking for help in building a dam from your friend, Pakistan asked to build defence or missiles.

You do know we have dams?....

defense / missile. Again that is india's doing

but if Pakistsn do not fix its internal economic and there is a lack of progress in ROI for Pakistan, then it is not China’s problem...

Who says we are not addressing our internal issues ?...

in the mean time you can ask your RSS muslim hating government to stop terrorism in Pakistan

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Yeah we are. You genocidal maniacs can buzz off @Beast.

 

[Beast]

Yeah we are. You genocidal maniacs can buzz off @Beast.

Selective self deceiving mentality.

And they used the aid to shit our mouth against India on Kashmir and to stop us from attended Kuala Lumpur summit. Arab regimes are traitors and backstabbers.

You can choose not to take the money. Saudi never force Pakistan to take that loan. When Imran Khan went to Saudi in 2018 asking for loan. You know that you owe Saudi a favor. Without the Saudi loan, Pakistan economy is sure to default and declared bankrupt and ended up like Argentina. The summit is not just about talking kashmir issue but a coalition against Saudi and OIC..

 

[Turan09]

Wow we don't have a national defense industry.... Seems idlib humilation has affected your brain... All these products such as our ballistic missiles, nuclear weapons homemade nuclear submarines and warships are from our own national defense industry.... Support warships we only now buy when our own docks are busy.... Or else we are building our own corvets, destroyers, nuclear submarine and homemade Air craft carrier will start sea trials soon.... We are way ahead of Turkey when it comes to missiles and space tech....
I'm not saying we are not buying.... Off course we are buying as there is still long way for us to go before we become completely independent for our needs but so does Turkey.... Don't ever think about Turkey getting a pie in tasty cake as India's days are not that bad where it will have to import third grade Turkish weapons... Ohh wait "Lethal Turkish weapons" which could not even help you win against rag tag Assad forces who kicked you in rear.... We are a nuclear power with ICBMs and SLBM being inducted.... We don't need your third grade weapons....

Cake look big and tasty Hah...

Some one is triggered... Look, india even with this ban of lethal weapons buys more than Pakistan from us, because you guys can't even produce military radios. Same for UCAV's or some other technologies. Maybe after Saudi Arabia you are the second biggest market. Quite simple.

And for the Idlib say it to russian pantsirs...