Are TURKEY and PAKISTAN really ALLIES?

[beijingwalker]

we knows bro, your weapons one of the best but you don't have experience as west/Russians they have decades of experience to R&D, but you're relatively new to design and develop weaponry from Scratch and your engines industries are also new comer

We don't claim our weapons are the best , but they are neither that bad as Turkish members claim, at some point they themselves intended to buy Chinese air defence system, some even discuss about buying Chinese 5 gen jets, I never heard that China wants to buy Turkish stuff.

 

[Ultima Thule]

We don't claim our weapons are the best , but they are neither that bad as Turkish members claim, at some point they themselves intended to buy Chinese air defence system, some even discuss about buying Chinese 5 gen jets, I never heard that China wants to buy Turkish stuff.

Bro Chill it down, China have enough potential to R&D themselves but today world arms selling countries has open source/architecture means any Russian or Chinese or vice versa jets can be utilized Western/Eastern system upon CUSTOMER REQUEST

 

[cabatli_53]

What Chinese equipment failed Pakistan's army? JF-17? What Chinese weapon needs Turkish subsystem for quality reasons?

Pakistani Army have a great tradition with testing the potential products in Pakistani harsh conditions before placing an order and You as a main weapon supplier of Pakistan frequently joins into many field trials held in Pakistan. I advice you to check the head to head trial results of your systems before talking about quality issue, then you will understand what I mean. This trials held in there have a great feedbacks to realise the level of quality about products. In a fair competition, Chinese products do not have much chance against Western/NATO compatible products. You are considered as a new player in this field and come to this level with copying other’s products one by one. I know Such conversations hurt your big ego but do not behave as if you invented the wheel while others were playing with stones.

 

[T-123456]

In a fair competition, Chinese products do not have much chance against Western/NATO compatible products.

If Pakistan had a choice(financial independence,no sanctions etc),Chinese defence products would never make a chance,they know that as does the whole world.

 

[beijingwalker]

If Pakistan had a choice(financial independence,no sanctions etc),Chinese defence products would never make a chance,they know that as does the whole world.

Ok, Does Turkey sanction Pakistan? Why Pakistan didn't buy more stuff from Turkey?

 

[Ansu fati]

Whatever... as long as Indian monkey is capable to convert Turkish monkey to atoms I'm happy.... keep your garbage with you to fight with other rag tag monkeys in ME.....

Without NATO Turkish monkey is nothing...

You were literally ruled by turks for several centuries you were turkish slaves this fact will be forever part of your “history”
Anyway I don’t think we shouldn’t derail thread with insults
You insulted first i just gave response back

 

[vishwambhar]

You were literally ruled by turks for several centuries you were turkish slaves this fact will be forever part of your “history”
Anyway I don’t think we shouldn’t derail thread with insults
You insulted first i just gave response back

My friend I'm sorry for using bad language but please check again who used the word monkey first....

 

[zhxy]

I think China and Turkey don't need to argue, whose weapons and technology are better. You can't use logic to convince people who dislike you.

 

[Ansu fati]

Pakistani-turkish relationship goes back from mughal time maybe even before that but the most important time fragment about this special relationship is during WW1 period when turks were on the verge of being genocided
Our so called “arab” muslim brothers who were living with turks for several centuries betrayed us but pakistanis and other muslims from south asia despite being separated thousands of kilometers when they were sent to fight against turks by the brits they changed sides and fought with their muslim turkish brothers even though they knew there would severe punishment by british empire this sacrifice done by pakistanis is something that every turk in turkey or abroad is aware and grateful so the respect from turk to pakistan is unlimited
Pakistanis and other muslim from south asia never backstabbed us that’s why we are confident in the new emerging alliance between turkey pakistan malaysia and i hope soon i can add also indonesia and bangladesh
No matter who is in power pakistan-turkey relationship will always remain strong and strategic I should remind everyone that during nationalistic rule in 20th century during cold war turkey smuggled important parts for pakistan nucler program there’s more to tell but i guess you all got the explanation for questioning this sincere historical brotherly relationship

 

[dani92]

We have different historical mindsets. Turks did not have a major affect on China, but on the Islamic world, the dynasties which ruled and benefited our people for roughly a thousand years were mostly Turkish. Many excelled in religion and sufism, elevating the level of thinking and piety of Muslims around the world. They brought technological advances too and military techniques which made us the top of the world in our Golden Age. have a very high opinion of them for this reason.

You can go from the Muslim half of Africa, Balkan Muslims, Caucasus, Arabs, Pakistan, BD, CARs, Muslims in Russia, SEA, all will have mostly a positive opinion of Turks and their history.

dont lie all of there rule was mostly the darkest age in the history of the middle east also why a south asian is obsessed with north chinese turks or anatolian turks who have nothing in common with him??

So did our Iranic ancestors: Scythians, Kushans, and Hephthalites.

acording tp the turkic thieves all of them were turks and they insult you if you say otherwise they even mock the color of iranians and pakistanis.

We know very well of Turkey's genuine sacrifices for Pakistan and Kashmir. This is why the whole of Pakistan loves Turkey, it is pretty much unanimous.

We Pakistanis also are ready to help Turkey in any way possible. Many European countries, US, Arabs, now China, have asked us to step aside from supporting Turkey, but our heart can never do such a thing.

We feel that la'nat of Allah swt will fall upon anyone who does not support brother believers of Turkey, descendants of Khalifat and Ghazis. And I feel the same thing, Pakistan survived miraculous alliances of foes which incessantly attacked us, such as USSR-India-BD alliance of '71, USSR in Afghanistan and Soviet agents in Pakistan, and recently US-Israeli-Indian-Iranian alliance and terrorism in Afghanistan.

you are misguided turkey have nothing to do with khilafa they act more wannabe europeans while they hate to be associated with pakistan and other muslim countries but donkeys dont understand that