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Hmmm. American ATGM on Russian Gunship. Thats interestingBGM-71s, installed and used in operations as well.
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Hmmm. American ATGM on Russian Gunship. Thats interestingBGM-71s, installed and used in operations as well.
Hunting in Lower BLN? The army is surprisingly pretty quiet on it's ops against BRAS etc.BGM-71s, installed and used in operations as well.
Looking at the pictures, If PA is expecting to transport troops in Toyota’s and use jeeps for Anti-Tank units, then I have a bad news. Indian Artillery and cluster munitions will Toast everything light Armored.The infantry divisions which accompany Armored Divisions in Strike Corps, have paramount responsibilities on their shoulders. There are 3 such Infantry Divisions.
1. 17th Infantry Division - I Corps
2. 37th Infantry Division - I Corps
and
3. 40th Infantry Division - II Corps
Role
These Infantry Divisions are part of Strike Corps so have to take part in assault (offensive) led by Armored Division of their respective Corps. They are fully motorized for this purpose and there are "rumors" that they are partly mechanized also.
1. These divisions have to either follow or join Armored Divisions in combat.
2. Provide cover from flank attacks by enemy armor or infantry formations.
3. Hold and defend the area captured by the Armored Division
4. Provide cover in case Armor Division falls back to friendly lines.
5. Provide security to keep lines of communications and logistics open for Strike Corps.
In depiction below, 17 ID moves along with 6 Armor Div while 37 ID is held in reserve. These ID's can be used in any of above mentioned roles.
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Structure
The structure is same as of any other Infantry Division. The usual 3 brigade structure, 9 infantry battalions, 1 Armor Regiment, 1 Light Anti Tank Battalion (LAT), 3 Artillery and 3 AD Regiments.
LAT has 24 ATGM 4x4 and 24 MG 4x4. One such Battalion can be considered enough to give AT coverage to entire Division against enemy Armor.
@Gryphon has pointed out in past that Mechanized Infantry Battalions (M-113) are now assigned to Armored Divisions.
Fighting Arms of Infantry Division:
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Supporting Arms
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Anti Tank Capability- proposed Structure
Since 17,37 and 40 ID move along with PA's Armor Division, they will encounter heavy IA Armor presence in the form of Indian Army's IBG's, Armored Brigades or Division or even RAPID's. Therefore, these Infantry Divisions should have more Anti-Tank component (an Anti Tank Brigade) since they will be encountering T-90 and BMP's of Indian Army much more than other Infantry Divisions of PA.
Following is the proposed structure for these infantry divisions.
A Bde: 3 x Infantry Battalions
B Bde: 3 x Infantry Battalions
LAT Bde: 3 x LAT Battalions
1 x Armored Regiment
1 x HAT (Heavy AT) Regiment
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Expected Scenario
Since the above mentioned three Infantry Divisions work closely with Armored Divisions, the Indian Army will throw in T-90 and BMP's at them. Which would be be more suited for defense against Indian Armor;
Regular Infantry Brigade OR Light/Heavy Anti Tank Brigade ?
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Looking at the pictures, If PA is expecting to transport troops in Toyota’s and use jeeps for Anti-Tank units, then I have a bad news. Indian Artillery and cluster munitions will Toast everything light Armored.
Not only those, but all transportation of ammo and supplies apart from towing artillery guns is carried by light skinned trucks (2.5 T, 5 T etc). Troop carriers in infantry are trucks. Means Pakistan Military should stop using light skinned vehicles ?Looking at the pictures, If PA is expecting to transport troops in Toyota’s and use jeeps for Anti-Tank units, then I have a bad news. Indian Artillery and cluster munitions will Toast everything light Armored.
4 x 4 wheeled will retain its utility on battlefield, not every vehicle can be tracked.Sadly (from an Indian point of view) this is not the case. Please see #103; PanzerKiel has clarified the situation.
HJ-8/BS on AH-1 (originally chinese on American), so American on Russian (TOW on Mi-35, just like Aim-9 on Mig-19 and Mig-21 series of F-6 and F-7).Hmmm. American ATGM on Russian Gunship. Thats interesting
Not only those, but all transportation of ammo and supplies apart from towing artillery guns is carried by light skinned trucks (2.5 T, 5 T etc). Troop carriers in infantry are trucks. Means Pakistan Military should stop using light skinned vehicles ?
4 x 4 wheeled will retain its utility on battlefield, not every vehicle can be tracked.
HJ-8/BS on AH-1 (originally chinese on American), so American on Russian (TOW on Mi-35, just like Aim-9 on Mig-19 and Mig-21 series of F-6 and F-7).
Ground reality is TLC (70 series) and Defender 110. Then Hilux's and L-200 Mitsubishi.If you were to include 6x6 and 8x8 in your comment, I might back away respectfully and leave it at that. Just 4WD? I dunno......it's faddish and not practical.
Hunting in Lower BLN? The army is surprisingly pretty quiet on it's ops against BRAS etc.
Only active theatre since Hinds came.I didnt say they were used in lower Balochistan.
Only active theatre since Hinds came.
Nopes.
For troop transports to (Not into) the battle field, for Ammo and supplies into the battlefield. Light skin trucks are fine. US (I think) 9 ton Trucks, driver cabin is light armored to protect driver, and crew from Artillery shrapnel and medium MG rounds. Pakistan gotta work on Hummve or MRAP type veh.Not only those, but all transportation of ammo and supplies apart from towing artillery guns is carried by light skinned trucks (2.5 T, 5 T etc). Troop carriers in infantry are trucks. Means Pakistan Military should stop using light skinned vehicles ?
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Are some Medium ArtRegs with 12x155mm & 6x130mm TO&E?Not really a nightmare. But these four are the minimum required. One for each infantry brigade and Medium Regiment with Div HQ.
There are techniques whereby these artillery guns are able to provide continuous fire cover to an advancing infantry division as well.
In 23 Mar Parade, requirement is not for one company to participate. The formation in which the unit ha to roll by matters actually, like 9 M113s means the unit must be marching with 3 M113s abreast, in 3 rows.
I was for 5 years in Portuguese Army, half that time in the Mechanized Brigade. I know the working of the Artillery. The basic working principles of Pak Artillery are western/NATO like the Portuguese.Are some Medium ArtRegs with 12x155mm & 6x130mm TO&E?
Does that include some SP
Medium ArtRegs?
Does Heavy ArtRegs goes with 12x203mm & 6x130mm?
(The 155mm Long Toms are gone?)
This quastions are in debate here in PDF since the begining.
Thanks
Are some Medium ArtRegs with 12x155mm & 6x130mm TO&E?
Does that include some SP
Medium ArtRegs?
Does Heavy ArtRegs goes with 12x203mm & 6x130mm?
(The 155mm Long Toms are gone?)
This quastions are in debate here in PDF since the begining.
Thanks
I was for 5 years in Portuguese Army, half that time in the Mechanized Brigade. I know the working of the Artillery. The basic working principles of Pak Artillery are western/NATO like the Portuguese.
I do know the "speed factor" in Mech operations and the dinamics diference between "Leg" Infantry (with their towed guns) and MIBs/Tanks (with their SP guns).
Thanks
Medium Regiments are equipped with only ONE type of equipment. However, mission oriented regiments are also there, having a mix equipment, we call them Composite Regiments, but they are not authorised.
Inf Divisions do not have SP Medium Regiments. Only towed.
Long Toms are there for training only. Highly accurate firing tables from 1940s. Excellent metallurgy, unmatched.
I am also a mechanized officer, glad to know you are as well.