haviZsultan
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you really a most ignorant person
ok now listen and pay some attention here Mr. Knowledgeable ... First of all put your family aside cause no one know your background .. from which background you belong ... and the family you have , and giving lecture to other on a international forum first go and abuse your own uncle and Aunties ... than we will talk ..
I already told you. Its no secret. Most of our family is Lucknowi. That is our original identity not muhajir which as I said is a fake identity. Questioning this identity itself will take a long time and can only occur once we begin condemning the practices of Muhajir organizations like the MQM.
Ajmal Pahari in his confession video does not think he is a terrorist or India is supporting him because they want to destabilize Pakistan. Despite admitting to a number of target killings. He thinks he is "oppressed" like you. You could very much be the next Ajmal Pahari because you too are trapped in a cycle-you will blame others for your own communities attrocities. Possibly much like you, Pahari too is in denial even though he has hurt Pakistan much.
now again , you logic is no less than a gutter logic, any sensible person will disagree, that you are asking and begging in front of other to say oh because urdu speaking people did this so i am sorry and blah blah ...
so you sounds more of a Punjabi to me , rather than a Urdu speaker
they do anything when they have Matlab from someone or get attention ...
Lol. Now I am a Punjabi? Well its better than being called muhajir. Jinnah never wanted our community, us migrants to call ourselves muhajir. I stand by that.
Bangladesh partly occurred because of us. We refused to accept Bengali as a national language. What makes you think we are any different from Bengalis. Lets say there is a crackdown on MQM, MQM terrorists are arrested their guns taken and members arrested.
There are already wall chalkings of independent Jinnahpur. What will happen when terror mafia mqm is banned. There will be rebellion from my foolish community which will do everything to smear up MQM terrorism's footprint in Pakistan
The next Mujib Ur Rehman is no one but Altaf Hussain who already called partition a blunder-not once but more than once if we are to look at his various speeches.
I don't see any problem with the jaag punjab jaag nara. Even if there is the best solution is to condemn our own community. Realizing we are looking within the pashtuns and punjabis will look within too. In a few years every Pakistani ethnic problem will be picked up and scattered by the winds of change.
Lol. Now I am a boot licker of other ethnicities. Is that what you are saying?
In short according to you there are faults in everyone except urdu speakers. Good luck with that ideology uniting Pakistan rather than dividing.
I am tired of hearing from your dirty mouth things about the other ethnicities. The Baloch have been deprived of resources and opportunities at every turn. Still we have the @Irfan Baloch's defending you people.
PMLN does not represent all punjabis just like MQM does not represent all muhajirs except the chauvinist ones.
I never said I am a prophet and according to the principles of Ijtehad I state clearly. I may be wrong as according to every person there is a different way of seeing things.
I strongly believe in hum sab ek hai and respect begets respect. All you do and contribute to the site is your narrow parochial vision of the world which revolves around terror mafia mqm.
This is indeed a problem. Our voting preferences hinge upon our ethnicity. But i already gave you a model to eliminate ethnic tensions. We should not take our ethnicity too seriously. It should only matter for the promotion of culture, language and customs.
Think which way. And promote nationalism instead of ethnic mindset?
This is a problem in our society. People supporting terror mafias only because they (claim to) represent urdu speakers.
You are going round and round and are wasting my time. Give a proper argument rather than focusing on me and stop wasting time.
Because you asked I already told you what I thought of said people.
I see Baloch people as my brothers. As I said muhajir identity is weak and superimposed. It requires chest beating regularly and revolves around support of the MQM. If you can unite as a Lucknowi who has aap janab culture with a Madrasi who wears lungi and dislikes shalwar under the banner of muhajir why is it so difficult for me to unite with my Baloch Sindhi or Pathan brother?
Again you blame me of being a Punjabi. Why don't you share your ethnic history like what is your ancestral town. Mine is Lucknow. But even before Lucknow my mothers side came from Barabanki. You can google these places and find where they are. But you seem to be a typical MQM target killer keen to hide your real idenity.
What was wrong with what he said. Its absolute truth. Be thankful to the Punjabis that they did not raise the language issue like the Bengalis. One of my indirect nana's used to state a Punjabi woman who would beat her children if they spoke Punjabi and tried to impose urdu on them. The statistics prove this true as well. Search for the article no takers of punjabi in Pakistan and you will know that Punjabi is disappearing in favor of urdu. Many punjabis do not know punjabi at all.
In Punjab it was understood but not in all parts of Pakistan. Jinnah wanted urdu as the national language because he thought it was neutral language as it belonged to no ethnicity. How would he know that us stupid migrants would crystallize around an identity known as "muhajir" or "urdu speaker". Urdu's use as a national language died the moment we made an ethnic group which focused on the knowledge of urdu.
You have never admitted any, single wrong of the urdu speaking community. I do not bury my head in sand. Our elders were supposed to be the glue that binded Pakistan together. Instead they became involved in the ethnic chasms that separated us.
Now I am a Bharti. First decide if I am a Punjabi or Bharti. I acknowledge migrants did a lot for the country but most of it was pre 1947. After that we became victims of the feudal mentality of "we are the best and better than everyone else and deserve extra rights."
This is not a sindhi punjabi thing. Whichever government comes in they reward their supporters and give them jobs. PPPP replaced the entire karachi airport staff to change it into PPPP supporters. People with the ethnic mindset claim they replaced urdu speakers with sindhis when it had nothing to do with ethnicity. But thats how the weak brain of ethnofascists works.
for more , same goes in wadera and Jageerdar culture .. everything that exist in your society , now deny that , to again show yourself as a train TT rather than a Think tank
Wadera and Jageerdar culture is bad but it exists mainly in rural areas. If MQM supporters lived in rural areas then MQM would never raise a word against this. Since its supporters are sitting comfy in cities, well its quite clear that they will stand against it. In other words MQM is a political party with a parochial vision and at times yes defends the interests of urdu speakers even if it costs the rest of the nation.
No one condemns or criticizes his own ethnicity in Pakistan. I do and I do recognize the impact ethnic idiocy has on Pakistan. We should all be Pakistan first with ethnicity having no effect on our thinking.
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I was living in Karachi months ago. Don't try to teach me.
Are you trying to copy me? Because that was the exact thing I said in my last post.Do you ever post anything except stuff that is condescending towards other ethnicities. No my boss is not a punjabi but yes I am deeply critical of the way the so called urdu speakers have behaved after partition.
I have visited karachi. Even stayed there.
anyway , kindly next time come with better argument , and if again you are so Champion , go to Mango pir , Afghan basti with a Camera and take pictures ,if you came our Alive , then we will talk
now please dont tell me that in mango pir and Afghan basti , all Urdu speaking people live hahahahah
I will go all throughout Pakistan. It is my country. Karachi is not the only part of Pakistan.
Well if we go by this logic you are also including lar pashtuns in your statement and mean that a gora officer was kicking him from behind and making him polish boot. Lets note that the lar pashtuns were extremely aggressive against the British. There were insurrections of all kinds against the British by the various tribes-Faqir of Ipi and Palay Khan come into view. What is their fault to be called slaves of the British as the pashtuns of Afghanistan call our people?
I think the northern pashtuns take too much pride in not being conquered when at one point all they were doing was listening to the British/Soviets.
I don't agree with this. Pashtuns would most favourably in those times be ruled by Pashtuns or other muslim dynasties rather than by the British. Those tribes of FATA were surely less hostile to Abdul Rehman Khan than to the British which they fought with such valor that the British had to carpet bomb the area with jets. Abdul Rehman should have fought till the logical end of the war.
Well regardless, he gave up the southern regions to secure the north. Whatever his reasons the chance for pashtuns to be in one nation disappeared during his rule. There is till today clearly something that makes the northern pashtuns look down on those of the south despite them being economically stronger and the haven for Afghan pashtuns during the Soviet war.
You're missing the trees for the woods.
