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[MIRauf]

If US is willing then PAF should go for F-16Vs / 70, with MLU for at least the 18 C/D to V / 70 if not the whole lot. I was wondering why PIA was going for 788, wasn't the route to NY sold by the PIA few years back ? What it will cost to get the route purchased ?

 

[mingle]

If US is willing then PAF should go for F-16Vs / 70, with MLU for at least the 18 C/D to V / 70 if not the whole lot. I was wondering why PIA was going for 788, wasn't the route to NY sold by the PIA few years back ? What it will cost to get the route purchased ?

Not sure sold or PIA does not have plane available but PIA planning to buy more jet but Trump put this buy our plane then we let u fly to US.

 

[MIRauf]

Well PIA has 4 B-773-ER, were purchased for the direct flights to NYC/JFK, issue was that they had to land in UK for final vetting of passengers before proceeding to JFK.

 

[MastanKhan]

Well PIA has 4 B-773-ER, were purchased for the direct flights to NYC/JFK, issue was that they had to land in UK for final vetting of passengers before proceeding to JFK.

Hi,

My understanding that the aircraft were purchase just on a promise the direct flight would happen---after the procurement was made---the americans changed their minds---.

Pakistanis never know how to secure deals with the US properly---and the end game is blaming the US endlessly---.

 

[HRK]

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there is another picture of JF-17 with F/A-18 do you have that pic ....??

 

[Windjammer]

there is another picture of JF-17 with F/A-18 do you have that pic ....??

Eid Mubarak.

 

[Armchair]

Hi,

My understanding that the aircraft were purchase just on a promise the direct flight would happen---after the procurement was made---the americans changed their minds---.

Pakistanis never know how to secure deals with the US properly---and the end game is blaming the US endlessly---.

I think PIA's main strategy should be hub and spoke - making sure Pak is connected to the world outside meaningfully. This can easily be done by having low cost and frequent flights to Dubai / Istanbul / Qatar / Singapore. Particularly Dubai. If from Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, Quetta and Peshawar you can get frequent low cost flights, Pakistan would become easily accessible to the world.

Instead PIA was trying to do a wunder trip direct to NY... cost it an arm and leg and lost out in the end anyways. Stupid is what stupid does.

If US is willing then PAF should go for F-16Vs / 70, with MLU for at least the 18 C/D to V / 70 if not the whole lot. I was wondering why PIA was going for 788, wasn't the route to NY sold by the PIA few years back ? What it will cost to get the route purchased ?

Perhaps IK can propose a combined deal thus:

1. 8x Block 72 (to get the toe in the door)
2. 16x MLU
3. Permission to purchase (written not verbal) to purchase used F-16s from third countries
4. 6x C-130s second hand
5. Various other equipment

Together for a 3-4 billion dollar deal. Trump has a love of making big deals. It will be hard for him to say no to that, he is running the presidency like his tv show. He will have something to harp about "look I brought 3-4 billion dollars to America"

 

[air marshal]

 

[Trango Towers]

Hi,

My understanding that the aircraft were purchase just on a promise the direct flight would happen---after the procurement was made---the americans changed their minds---.

Pakistanis never know how to secure deals with the US properly---and the end game is blaming the US endlessly---.

There are a lot of capable young western educated men who work for western companies that can do these deals with their eyes shut as they understand the system and culture. Trouble is those at the helm are useless.

 

[nomi007]

will USA allow a Chinese made jet against F-16

 

[Irfan Baloch]

will USA allow a Chinese made jet against F-16

I think that wont eba problem as PAF F-16s and PAF JF-17s square off against each other already

Yanks have issue when their F-16s are pitted against Chinese or Russian airforces.
Americans themselves have done drills with Pakistani airforce using Chinese F-7s and Indian Su 30s etc

Pentagon loves us because we sometimes change their diapers in Afghanistan.

Capitol is money hungry. And we don't have that. So they turn to India for that.

Also Chinese factor is something which unites both Pentagon and Capitol against us.

the Indians have better influence in the Civil Administration hence that wing is far more hostile than Pentagon and finally yes, the Chinese issue is one that puts us on the wrong side of the fence from the Yanke perspective

 

[airomerix]

will USA allow a Chinese made jet against F-16

Duh why not.

They just dont want Chinese engineers near F-16s. We have plans of taking JF-17s to red flag next year. Lets see how things play out.

I think that wont eba problem as PAF F-16s and PAF JF-17s square off against each other already

Yanks have issue when their F-16s are pitted against Chinese or Russian airforces.
Americans themselves have done drills with Pakistani airforce using Chinese F-7s and Indian Su 30s etc

True. PAF's F-16s are routinely pitted against thunders in CCS and high marks.

Also, JF-17s took an active part in Falcon Talon against USAF F-16s. Thunders acted as ''surprise' intruders during missions.

 

[Tamiyah]

Dont you guys think that we got much more updated military equipment or stuff from rest of the world when US dumped us and send us outdated equipment and we were so happy that atleast we got American stuff.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Congress Listens to Lobbyist, so it is a Diplomatic Failure. One needs to keep Congress engaged, Pak should learn a lesson from India that learned it from Jewish Lobby.

we are on the wrong side, Congress and Lobbyists are groomed by Indians and then our close association with China is not helping either

 

[ZAC1]

Bro any results...whts the outcome