America is not powerful enough to stand up to China and Russia alone, says Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov

[Beny Karachun]

Hmm.. what if that party can deliver decades long world fastest economic growth and development in the whole human history to one fifth of the humanity?

By following the economic model of western countries. And by unnecessarily adding a ton of human rights violations against your own population.

 

[beijingwalker]

It is important to say that war experience could be mitigated by war attrition, even the strongest humans can only fight under a lot of stress for so long. Germans were already tired of war at that point.

Lol, haven't US soliders been tired of the wars after wars yet?

By following the economic model of western countries. And by unnecessarily adding a ton of human rights violations against your own population.

First, most of the biggest companies in China are still state owned, second, why all other countries which indeed follow western economic mode get poorer and poorer?

 

[Beny Karachun]

Lol, haven't US soliders been tired of the wars after wars yet?

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No, I am talking about individual soldiers, not Americans as a whole. As a whole, Americans were living safely in America with full production lines, while Germany was constantly bombed for years.
Put a soldier into a warzone for too much time and he will become fatigued, that's why the US had deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq and not just leave them there.

Generally speaking German soldiers were in constant state of war for a lot of time. The west brought in a ton of fresh/refreshed soldiers. Germans were more experienced but also fatigued.

 

[beijingwalker]

adding a ton of human rights violations against your own population.

An Isreali talks about human rights violations? are you kidding me?

 

[Beny Karachun]

An Isreali talks about human rights violations? are you kidding me?

If you harvest your own citizen's organs what would you do to enemies?

Btw blame Hamas for using them as human shields or firing crappy rockets that land in Gaza

 

[beijingwalker]

If you harvest your own citizen's organs what would you do to enemies?

Lol, only you do, killing children is the most despicable deed for many humans and you try to justify this crime, such a low life.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Lol, only you do, killing children is the most despicable deed for many humans and you try to justify this crime, such a low life.

I think launching rockets behind your own children at your enemy's children and forcing the enemy to act on you knowing your children would die in the process, but also knowing it would be a propaganda victory because certain idiots would call Israel child killers, is more despicable.

Military targets are legitimate targets. Collateral damage is the fault of the terrorists.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

By supporting Ukraine in its fight against Russia’s invading forces, Lavrov claimed that Washington is leading Europe in a proxy war against Russia, with the goal of a ‘Final Solution to the Russian Question’ – likening it to Hitler’s genocidal aims.

LOL! I see...solve the potential final solution of Russia with your own definite final solution of Ukraine. What a great guy!

 

[Skimming]

It's been one year, and they had to resort to Iran and North Korea; China is nowhere to be seen. This means the economic threat from the West is on the Chinese mind and have you frozen.

LOL. China not 'helping' Russia is reminiscent and akin to China never helping Iron Brother in any war and then making excuses like, "It's Pakistan's war. Pakistanis should fight by themselves."

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

By following the economic model of western countries.

Yes, after decades of being poor uneducated farmers Mao in the 1970's decides the simple commune lifestyle isn't cutting it anymore.

Now China's idea of a good lifestyle is redesigning their cities using Western designs as a guideline and embracing consumerism.

 

[Yaoudelizard]

India is pragmatic. Much as China.



Nothing novel here. It's pragmatism.



More than often, Russia and China do not look at the matters commonly. Russia has been wary of China's potential influence in Central Asia, hence invited India into the SCO. In the Arctic, invited Japan and SK into the Arctic Council.



US spent in one year about 50 billion USD in Ukraine war efforts. That's acceptable. Even China spent several times more for tests and lockdowns during its COVID craze.

What matters is the ROI. From US perspective, a weakened Russia is worth several tens of billion dollars, apparently.



And human wave. Very much what Russia does today.

I wasn’t talking about US, America has the petro dollar for now, they can print as much money as they want. I’m talking about Europe, they are facing an energy and economic crisis, how long can they sustain paying billions to Ukraine as well.

 

[beijingwalker]

Now China's idea of a good lifestyle is redesigning their cities using Western designs as a guideline and embracing consumerism.

But why you no longer can?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

But why you no longer can?

Because just as you moved much of your population from rural communes to cities we moved from old cities to new suburbs.

In China nobody wants to live in backwards communes anymore. In the US multi-family city life has fallen out of favor to the majority. They'd rather live in single family homes than multi-family apartments/condos in the city.

https://www.builderonline.com/money/economics/80-percent-of-americans-prefer-single-family-homeownership_o

80 PERCENT OF AMERICANS PREFER SINGLE-FAMILY HOMEOWNERSHIP​

Now multi-unit housing in cities are mostly full of people who can't afford living in single-family homes...concentrating people of lower income in cities...raising the crime-rate and sucking up budgets on social programs instead of infrastructure.

 

[beijingwalker]

Because just as you moved much of your population from rural communes to cities we moved from cities to suburbs.

In China nobody wants to live in backwards communes anymore. In the US city life has fallen out of favor to the majority. They'd rather live in single family homes than multi-family apartments/condos in the city.

https://www.builderonline.com/money/economics/80-percent-of-americans-prefer-single-family-homeownership_o

80 PERCENT OF AMERICANS PREFER SINGLE-FAMILY HOMEOWNERSHIP​

Now multi-unit housing in cities are mostly full of people who can't afford living in single-family homes...concentrating people of lower income in cities...raising the crime-rate and sucking up budgets on social programs instead of infrastructure.

lol, can't imagine what a country's future will look like without good cities.

 

[Beny Karachun]

But why you no longer can?

Has China's GDP per capita reached Western standards? Not even close. You'll platuo at some point. Time will tell if you will surpass western countries or not.

You're like a runner at the beginning of a jog telling runners far ahead how easy it is for him to run.

Get to western level, then talk.