America is not powerful enough to stand up to China and Russia alone, says Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov

[doorstar]

When Korean war happened, US also roped in dozens of "allies", they ran away faster than real dogs.

soooo... how come they still own/occupy Korea on the south side?

 

[Stranagor]

Hmm.. what if that party can deliver decades long fastest economic growth and development in the whole human history to one fifth of the humanity.

Still a party state.

Executive, legislative, judiciary are party branches.

Armed forces are party branches.

The police are a party branch.

Universities are party branches.

Private companies are party branches.

Kindergartens are party branches.

The media is a party branch.

Even you might be a party property because the party decides how many can be bred.

 

[beijingwalker]

Still a party state.

Executive, legislative, judiciary are party branches.

Armed forces are party branches.

The police are a party branch.

Universities are party branches.

Private companies are party branches.

Kindergartens are party branches.

The media is a party branch.

Even you might be a party property because the party decides how many can be bred.

We can live with it as long as it delivers, we Chinese are result oriented people, we see too much empty election promises which are never materialized from so called "democratic countries", by the way, China just live next to one, " the world biggest democracy", a very good reference for us, we are very sure that is not what we want.

soooo... how come they still own/occupy Korea on the south side?

China warned them not to cross the 38th parallel and they didn't listen and pushed all the way to the Chinese border, so we had to take the trouble to send them back to where they came from.

 

[jhungary]

Wanna hear the funniest story ever?
There was a dude in the armor corps and he was guarding some spot and at the Israeli-Lebanese border but he fell asleep, and some Hezbollah member got to him, took his phone, took a selfie and left. Kinda embarassing for us but that was hilarious when he found out.

LOL, heard similar story with the Marine, they were manning some kind of check point near a town in Iraq, then both of them felt asleep and awake to find out someone left a knife and a bullet on their lap with a graffiti "next time we will use that" (or seomthing like that, I forgot) at the checkpoint.

And when their top found out, he chew the heads off both Marine....

Here each tank brigade got a combat engineering battalion attached to it and the combat engineers enter the enemy line first before anyone else and clear the way for tanks, but I guess tank crews study about mines as well.

lol, no, we don't learn how to defuse that....

That was used to mark the no-go line which simulate mine field in the area, that was for a commander/driver course which you were supposed to plot a course and navigate outside those area, you will fail the FTX if you drove over those mine or cross the line, and they tried to scare us and said 4 of them are inert and one of them is active. We never know.

We aren't that stupid to get out of our amour and check on mines......lol. If we see them on the road, we will call the Engineer Platoon with our HQC.

20 pushups is an easy punishment honestly. They never made us do pushups. They made us hold push up plank position for a few minutes (This leaves anyone shaking and burning) or tell you to sprint from place to place. The thing is we were in the Negev desert and having 45+ degrees celsius was not something rare so we would be soaked. In bad cases they remove your next weekend or your 4 next weekends, and in extreme cases throw you into jail.

Push up, Sit up are all very common punitive punishment, depends on how serious your infraction is, sometimes you were to do 100, say if you bring a loaded rifle inside your barrack. Smaller infraction like didn't make the bed right, or putting your civvie clothing on your bed will get you 20.

But then that's just during Basic, in both Airborne and Ranger School, the punishment is something called Airborne Shuffle and the variation thereof. Airborne Shuffle in the most basic term is full torso load. Which is about 30 kg of rucksack on your back, but in Airborne school and Ranger school, they would do a few things different than just a ruck march, they will ask you to put your weapon up and do infinity 8 around the platoon, or have you get down with your full rucksack and do 5 or 10 push up everytime you round the platoon, and probably the most uncomfortable stuff you can get is to basically do shuttle run in Airborne Shuffle while holding the rifle up for the entire march

 

[Stranagor]

I wasn’t talking about US, America has the petro dollar for now, they can print as much money as they want. I’m talking about Europe, they are facing an energy and economic crisis, how long can they sustain paying billions to Ukraine as well.

Global economy in general is in a state of uncertainty due to disruptions in manufacturing and rise in commodity prices. Part of the blame goes to the pandemic. Part of it goes to Russia's invasion. In many respects, including sustainable energy development, Europe is in a better shape than many other regions. In general, Europe is a trade surplus region, although not in 2022. Still, European balance of accounts is still healthy. Especially compared to Russia.

lol, can't imagine what a country's future will look like without good cities.

If you ever reach that level of development, you will gladly copy that and that will become the new gold standard for you. But, by that time, the US would have moved to another stage of development. It is a 'copy up-follow up' process.

 

[jhungary]

I wasn’t talking about US, America has the petro dollar for now, they can print as much money as they want. I’m talking about Europe, they are facing an energy and economic crisis, how long can they sustain paying billions to Ukraine as well.

Lol, I don't know what you know, but Petro-Dollar is no where near being the reason why USD Dominate World Currency market. Petroleum Industry at a good run is a 3-5 trillion per annum market. While it itself is impressive as I don't think there are anything in term of trade volume can match that. But that is not why US dominate world currency. It's because of the volume of transaction of USD per day.

According to SWIFT (A money exchange system) roughly 5 to 7 trillion USD worth of transaction were settle per day, The entire SWIFT volume were over 25 quadrillion a year. If you compare that to the annual market for Petrol Product (which US is number 1 oil producer in the world and Canada is 4th by the way) that amount of transaction is really nothing. And there is a reason why international transaction usually take T-3 to settle, I will let you venture a guess why. And that is just SWIFT, there are also other payment settlement platform using USD to settle, CHIPS and FEDWIRE combine have a 1.3 quadrillion settlement...

On the other hand, US had not "Print" any money before 2008, and after 2008, there are only 4 QE plan being executed. And US cannot print money unabated, or I am pretty sure if the US can do it, they will probably print 31 trillion to settle the National Debt since day 1 already......

 

[Stranagor]

We can live with it as long as it delivers, we Chinese are result oriented people, we see too much empty election promises which are never materialized from so called "democratic countries", by the way, China just live next to one, " the world biggest democracy", a very good reference for us, we are very sure that is not what we want

So, irrespective of new talking points in your mission book, it is still and indeed a party state.

 

[beijingwalker]

If you ever reach that level of development, you will gladly copy that and that will become the new gold standard for you. But, by that time, the US would have moved to another stage of development. It is a 'copy up-follow up' process.

I say it again, on countries can afford giving up on their cities, including US, what level of development do you mean to allow your cities to degrade into ruins?

This is what you so called " development level”？ China will never develope into a level that only relies on printing money.

So, irrespective of new talking points in your mission book, it is still and indeed a party state.

Then it becomes a very positive word.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

No, you are just being stupid to deny the common sense that no countries can function normally and grow without cities and no governments in their sane mind would give up on their cities. this is always my point from my post one, who cares about the setup of your famillies.

No, you are being completely stupid by thinking cities need to be multi-family like NYC. Do you know almost half the area of Los Angeles is single-family homes. What city dominates the West Coast?

Single-family homes cover almost half of Los Angeles

LA’s image is a city of ranch homes and Craftsman bungalows.

la.curbed.com

Single-family homes cover almost half of Los Angeles—here’s how that happened​

 

[beijingwalker]

No, you are being completely stupid by thinking cities need to be multi-family like NYC. Do you know almost half the area of Los Angeles is single-family homes.

Single-family homes cover almost half of Los Angeles

LA’s image is a city of ranch homes and Craftsman bungalows.

la.curbed.com

Single-family homes cover almost half of Los Angeles—here’s how that happened​

No , you are being completely stupid, when did I say cities need to be multi-family? stop lying. I said no countries can afford giving up on cities and let them sink into ruins.

 

[sutton999]

 

[nahtanbob]

Living in US doesn't mean they love US, many Chinese PDFers here live in the west, but they loyalty is with China, besides, it was true that many Chinese settled down in the west in the past for economic reasons when China was still very poor but now almost all Chinese students choose to come back to China after they study in the west, the table had been turned. besides, Chinese immigrants are still a minority, most people moved and settled in US are still Europeans.

Getting US citizenship is a pretty strong statement

 

[nahtanbob]

No, you are just being stupid to deny the common sense that no countries can function normally and grow without cities and no governments in their sane mind would give up on their cities. this is always my point from my post one, who cares about the setup of your famillies.

most American cities are low density single family homes. It is called suburbs

 

[firohot4321]

America is not powerful enough to stand up to China and Russia alone, says Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov​

BySamarthPophale

January 18, 2023

America is not powerful enough to stand up to China and Russia, according to Vladimir Putin‘s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

During a rambling press conference in which he praised joint military drills between Moscow and Beijing, Lavrov compared the US to Adolf Hitler and Napoleon, who he said mobilised European countries against the Russian empire.

By supporting Ukraine in its fight against Russia’s invading forces, Lavrov claimed that Washington is leading Europe in a proxy war against Russia, with the goal of a ‘Final Solution to the Russian Question’ – likening it to Hitler’s genocidal aims.

Russia’s top diplomat was criticised by Israel last year for saying Hitler was part Jewish and that the worst anti-Semites were Jews, after being asked why Moscow incorrectly portrays Zelensky, who has a Jewish background, as a Nazi.

America is not powerful enough to stand up to China and Russia alone, according to Vladimir Putin’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov (pictured Wednesday during a press conference)
Speaking on Wednesday, Lavrov said the US was attempting to ‘contain’ both Russia and China with the help of other countries, but they were alert to its ‘games’.

He told the gathered press that the West saw both countries as a threat – Russia right now, and China in the longer term as a systemic rival.

He said Washington was not powerful enough to keep in check both countries at once, so was mobilising Europe, Japan and others to join it. At the same time, he said, the West was trying to drive a wedge between Russia and China.

Lavrov also accused the West of searching for ways to anger China on a host of issues, such as the status of Tibet and Taiwan – which lives under constant threat of invasion by China, which claims the self-ruled democracy as part of its territory to be retaken one day, by force if necessary. The US has said it would help defend Taiwan.

He said China was too powerful for the United States to stand against on its own should the two countries be drawn into a conflict, so Washington was being forced to ‘mobilise’ the West to support its anti-Beijing agenda.

‘They have already outlined their positions on Taiwan, which are absolutely unacceptable for China and for international law, they are looking for more and more opportunities to irritate China in Tibet, Xinjiang, and Hong Kong,’ he said.

‘Therefore, China is well aware that remaining in the Western system and completely dependent on the West is fraught with very serious risks for the fundamental national interests of China’s development.’

Russia and China signed a ‘no limits’ partnership last February, days before Moscow sent its armed forces into Ukraine. Their economic links have boomed as Russia’s connections with the West have shrivelled. Pictured: Vladimir Putin meets with Xi Jinping on February 4, 2022

His comments underlined the strategic importance to Moscow of its relationship with China at a time when its army is struggling in Ukraine and its economic links with the West have been wrecked by successive waves of sanctions.

Ties with Beijing had never been stronger, Lavrov said, and the two countries were shifting an increasing amount of their trade into their national currencies to reduce dependence on the West and exposure to sanctions.

Russia and China signed a ‘no limits’ partnership last February, days before Moscow sent its armed forces into Ukraine. Their economic links have boomed as Russia’s connections with the West have shrivelled.

Putin has been relying on Beijing to bail him out amid the strong sanctions.

However, Russian President Putin has publicly acknowledged that his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping has ‘concerns’ over Russia’s actions in Ukraine.

On Ukraine, Lavrov said Moscow saw no prospects of peace talks and there could be no negotiations with President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Russia has said talks are possible only if Ukraine recognises Moscow’s claims to Ukrainian territory; Kyiv says it will fight until Russia withdraws from all of Ukraine.

He compared the West’s approach to Russia to Hitler’s ‘final solution’, the Holocaust plot to murder all European Jews. Since before Putin launched his invasion of Ukraine, Russia has sought to portray Kyiv as being run by a Nazi government.

He has explained his decision to send troops into Ukraine on February 24 as the need to ‘demilitarise’ and ‘denazify’ Ukraine, to prevent the neighbouring country from joining Nato, and to protect Russian speakers living there.

This approach has been heavily criticised as being disinformation, racist and as a cover for an unprovoked act of aggression.

Despite Russia suffering a series of setbacks in its war in Ukraine, Lavrov said the goals of Moscow’s so-called ‘special military operation’ are ‘determined by Russia’s core legitimate interests’ and will be fulfilled.

‘There must be no military infrastructure in Ukraine that poses a direct threat to our country,’ he said, adding that Moscow also intends to make sure the rights of ethnic Russians in Ukraine are protected.

Speaking at his marathon annual news conference, Lavrov dismissed Zelensky’s demands for a complete Russian withdrawal from Ukraine.

He also dismissed Ukraine’s insistence on payments for war damages and the prosecution of war criminals as a platform for future talks, saying ‘there can be no talks with Zelensky’.

Lavrov alleged ‘the West makes all the decisions for Ukraine’ with the goal of using the conflict to exhaust Russia. Nato members have provided Ukraine with substantial military aid.

‘The amount of Western support clearly shows that the West has invested a lot in its war against Russia,’ he said. ‘It’s the West that makes the decisions. And it has made decisions for Ukraine and without Ukraine.’

He asserted that Russia’s action in Ukraine is ‘our response to a hybrid war unleashed against us’ by the West.

He said Russia is ready to ‘seriously consider’ any Western initiatives on ending the conflict but added: ‘We haven’t seen any serious proposals yet.’

Any future Russian talks with Western representatives should not be limited to Ukraine, Lavrov continued. ‘It makes no sense to talk to the West only about Ukraine.

‘The West is using Ukraine to destroy the security system that existed in the Euro-Atlantic region for a long time and hinged on consensus, indivisibility of security and settlement of all issues through dialogue and co-operation.’

He warned that Russia’s showdown with the West over Ukraine is part of global policy shifts that will evolve over a long period.

‘The process of forming a multipolar world order will be long; it will take an epoch,’ he said. ‘And we are in the middle of that process now.’

He cited Western efforts to hamper the widening co-operation between Russia and China, maintaining that they will not succeed.

Lavrov said Russia’s relations with the West ‘will never be the same’ and accused the West of failing to observe signed agreements with Russia. ‘Never again there will be a situation when you lie, sign documents and then refuse to fulfil them,’ he said.

Lavrov’s comments came as Olena Zelenska, wife of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, said her husband had written to Chinese leader Xi Jinping inviting him to talks which was handed over in Davos to the Chinese delegation.

Zelensky has repeatedly sought to make contact with Xi since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February last year in the hope that Beijing will use its influence over Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

During a speech on Tuesday at the World Economic Forum in the Swiss Alpine resort of Davos, Zelenska said she had a letter for Xi but she gave new details during a press conference on Wednesday.

‘It was a gesture and invitation to dialogue and I hope very much that there will be a response to this invitation,’ she told reporters.

China and Russia announced a ‘no limits’ partnership in February last year in August, shortly before Putin ordered his troops into Ukraine.

China has sought to position itself as neutral in the war, while at the same time deepening ties with Moscow, particularly in the energy sector.

But some analysts have suggested Beijing could ultimately step in as a mediator to negotiate an end to the fighting in Ukraine.

Foreign Minister Wang Yi called last September ‘on all parties concerned to keep the crisis from spilling over,’ underlining concern about the economic impact of the conflict which has affected countries worldwide.

Zelensky told the South China Morning Post newspaper in August he had ‘asked officially for a conversation’ with Xi, adding that a dialogue would be ‘helpful’.

Foreign ministers from both countries met on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York in September.

America is not powerful enough to stand up to China and Russia alone, says Putin's foreign minister - Finnoexpert

America is not powerful enough to stand up to China and Russia, according to Vladimir Putin's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

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Russia jumped into war it couldn't win and exposed it's weaknesses
Before Ukraine NATO estimated Russia could conquer all of Balkans and East European in 2 months if USA doesn't directly intervene
Now it tells like a husk of its former power

 

[beijingwalker]

most American cities are low density single family homes. It is called suburbs

But they also needs public supporting facilities like subways and trains, don't they?

Getting US citizenship is a pretty strong statement

US citizens are still mostly European origins, not Chinese origins.