Alternative History: What if the KMT won China

[tower9]

For Great Leap Forward . u only can blame Mao, can not blame communist idea. Soviet didnt support Mao this thing. VN also didnt have Great Leap Forward

Communist ideology is a terrible inhuman ideology. Setting that up as a framework for a country is to set up a country with no basis for respecting human or individual rights.

 

[Song Hong]

Yes and No.

USSR trained Chinese engineers and help in nuclear weapon as well.

In addition, without USSR, there wont be KMT. The KMT and CPC is a result of Sun Yat Sen marriage with USSR.

Also significant USA support came late. Initial KMT crack unit were trained by Germans.

The USA has given China a lot through the course of this past century. The US saved the ROC from being decimated by Japan. The US gave the PRC access to world markets, trained hundreds of thousands of its best and brightest and basically taught modern China the ropes of modern capitalism. In fact, you can say that the US has been generous to a naive degree. In comparison, China's "ally" Russia has been responsible for the greatest loss of territory in Chinese history and the independence of Mongolia.

 

[zhxy]

From defeating Chiang Kai-shek, sending troops into Korea to stop the United Nations, launching the cultural revolution to depose Liu Shaoqi, stopping Lin Biao's coup, protecting the lives of Deng XiaoPing...

Mao is a military and political genius.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Communist ideology is a terrible inhuman ideology. Setting that up as a framework for a country is to set up a country with no basis for respecting human or individual rights.

But communist mean farmers and workers will Rule the own lives cos they r the one making Laptop , internet wifi routers for u, and farmers make food to u, so u can still survive and argue wt me here.

Why farmers and workers can not have the right to Rule the own lives ,and to become the leaders ?? Can u grow rice, raise pigs, make Laptop like them ?? or u will starve to death if farmers stop growing rice, rasing pigs ??

 

[Song Hong]

Basically Vietnam and China turn communist because it liberate tenant farmers from the 1% landlord who controlled 90% of land.

The families of these landlord flee overseas. Then they complain communist kill people(their family).

But communist mean farmers and workers will Rule the own lives cos they r the one making Laptop , internet wifi routers for u, and farmers make food to u, so u can still survive and argue wt me here.

Why farmers and workers can not have the right to Rule the own lives , to become the leaders ?? Can u grow rice, raise pigs, make Laptop like them ??

 

[zhxy]

Basically Vietnam and China turn communist because it liberate tenant farmers from the 1% landlord who controlled 90% of land.

That is why it has to "Land Reform".

 

[tower9]

But communist mean farmers and workers will Rule the own lives cos they r the one making Laptop , internet wifi routers for u, and farmers make food to u, so u can still survive and argue wt me here.

Why farmers and workers can not have the right to Rule the own lives ,and to become the leaders ?? Can u grow rice, raise pigs, make Laptop like them ?? or u will starve to death if farmers stop growing rice, rasing pigs ??

Yet capitalist societies from the US to South Korea to Taiwan have FAR RICHER farmers than Communist countries like the PRC and Vietnam where farmers have no rights to their own lands.

 

[Song Hong]

You cannot persuade or beg these landlord to forgo their wealth. The biggest landlord have private armies.

And the judges are their relatives. Then you go to court and the case run for years, at the end nothing is done.

You need to kill them.

That is why it has to "Land Reform".

 

[tower9]

You cannot persuade or beg these landlord to forgo their wealth. The biggest landlord have private armies.

And the judges are their relatives. Then you go to court and the case run for years, at the end nothing is done.

You need to kill them.

This is why Communism is a barbaric and ignorant ideology that breeds terrible human beings.

Do you ever wonder why most Communist or post-Communist countries like the PRC, Vietnam, Russia, etc breed the most selfish, unethical, greedy and materialistic people, the exact values that Communism claims to stand against? Because Communism is an unethical, hypocritical and dysfunctional system that robs people of their humanity and creates terrible human beings.

 

[zhxy]

You cannot persuade or beg these landlord to forgo their wealth. The biggest landlord have private armies.

And the judges are their relatives. Then you go to court and the case run for years, at the end nothing is done.

You need to kill them.

It is the most extreme but fastest and most effective way. But there are many cases where it is difficult to conclude correctly, like "Ms. Nguyễn Thị Năm".

 

[Viva_Viet]

Yet capitalist societies from the US to South Korea to Taiwan have FAR RICHER farmers than Communist countries like the PRC and Vietnam where farmers have no rights to their own lands.

They r FAR RICHER just bcs their boss US Make them look richer. What happen if US is so sick due to Covid and can not protect South Korea and Taiwan farmers ?? They will be all dead, cos they can not fight and do not have the guts fight to the death like VN-CN-N.Korea farmers

Basically Vietnam and China turn communist because it liberate tenant farmers from the 1% landlord who controlled 90% of land.

The families of these landlord flee overseas. Then they complain communist kill people(their family).

Thats true, the landlords were so greedy and gave almost Nothing to poor farmer and great famine in 1945 happend.

After the great famine, all farmers were so angry, and then Revolution leading by Viet Minh happened.

 

[zhxy]

You cannot persuade or beg these landlord to forgo their wealth. The biggest landlord have private armies.

And the judges are their relatives. Then you go to court and the case run for years, at the end nothing is done.

You need to kill them.

South Vietnam also conducted land reform, but instead of choosing the method of confiscating landlords' properties, South Vietnam paid money to buy land from the landlords and share it with the people. This approach is a waste of time, corruption, and inefficiency

 

[Song Hong]

The white man are gangsters looting the world for hundreds of years. Now they are rich and they pretend to be civilized.

In case you miss out, current Coronavirus crisis make them show true colors as liar, cheat, and pyscopathic social darwinist who want their old to die.

Their woman are slut. They take drug. They have full of LGBT. They have baby out of wed lock.

Their moral value are not high and will be lower once they lost their wealth.

It is ridiculous to see white man so highly.

This is why Communism is a barbaric and ignorant ideology that breeds terrible human beings.

Do you ever wonder why most Communist or post-Communist countries like the PRC, Vietnam, Russia, etc breed the most selfish, unethical, greedy and materialistic people, the exact values that Communism claims to stand against? Because Communism is an unethical, hypocritical and dysfunctional system that robs people of their humanity and creates terrible human beings.

 

[Viva_Viet]

This is why Communism is a barbaric and ignorant ideology that breeds terrible human beings.

Do you ever wonder why most Communist or post-Communist countries like the PRC, Vietnam, Russia, etc breed the most selfish, unethical, greedy and materialistic people, the exact values that Communism claims to stand against? Because Communism is an unethical, hypocritical and dysfunctional system that robs people of their humanity and creates terrible human beings.

Okay, but 1 question : can u grow rice/wheat and work so hard like farmers on the fields or working 10-12 hours per day to make laptop, wifi routers like workers so ppl can have laptop and wifi to argue here ??

If u can not, then what is the Use of you ?? why farmers-workers have to keep u alive when u can do Nothing but eating and hating farmers-workers ???

 

[Song Hong]

These are old society in Dalai Tibet. To bring happiness to people fast, the blood of upper class need to be shed.

You do not reason with them. It takes too long time.

This is why Communism is a barbaric and ignorant ideology that breeds terrible human beings.

Do you ever wonder why most Communist or post-Communist countries like the PRC, Vietnam, Russia, etc breed the most selfish, unethical, greedy and materialistic people, the exact values that Communism claims to stand against? Because Communism is an unethical, hypocritical and dysfunctional system that robs people of their humanity and creates terrible human beings.