Ajmal Kasab's Indian trial

[Xeric]

This has been posted before - words like 'chutti karega' etc - its absolutely not used in hyderabad. their accents are not even 5% hyderabadi, they are heavy.

Sir, and he's using words like prashasan (parshasan actually) etc and saying he belongs to 'dakkan' hyderabad - what does that mean? that he's trying to show he's from pakistan? see he's using hindi words, but his accent and usage (chutti kar dega - when he speaks in threatening conversation, but he uses hindi when he's saying his memorised piece) totally give away he's lying.

The tv host should have asked him who's the CM of Andhra Pradesh but he was refusing to engage in conversation anyways.

he's claimng to be from 'dekkan hyderabad' why would he give his address and phone number in pakistan? was that a serious question?

Whatever the case may be but you have to agree that dude was not Pakistani, come on , we dont have such an accent. Now you would say that probably he was also faking the accent.

He just seemed to me some AH who was blind folded, had his ears stuffed and talked as if someone is standing on his tail, with one aim, just to show the outsiders that some thing is wrong with what he was pretending.

Real terrorists dont talk like this..duh!

He was just a setup and fake, and he screwed up badly in proving what he was meant to prove-a Pakistani!

 

[Rabbit.Rabbit]

Talk about flogging a dead horse just for the depraved pleasure of it...

 

[Screaming Skull]

Qasab was tough, but cracked within hours: JCP​

Saturday April 18, 2009, London

Mohammed Ajmal Amir Qasab, the sole survivor of the terrorist team that carried out the Mumbai attacks last November, showed signs of being trained in how to withstand interrogation but cracked within hours, a top Indian cop has said.

Rakesh Maria, the head of the Mumbai Crime Branch said Qasab cracked within hours and supplied information on the outline of the terrorist plot and his origins.

Maria, the Joint Commissioner of Police (Crime), told The Times that "Qasab was relatively forthcoming."

But Qasab told the court on Friday that his confession, which hints at the involvement of the Pakistan state in the atrocity, was beaten out of him by police.

Earlier, Maharashtra's Home Minister Jayant Patil had told the British daily that a plot had been hatched "from abroad" to kill Qasab. He said measures were put into place after intelligence indicated that a plot had been hatched from abroad to kill Qasab.

Collaborating it, Maria said a plan to silence the captured gunman had been unearthed and it originated from "across the border" - a reference to Pakistan, where the Lashkar-e-Toiba, the mastermind behind the attack, is located.

Maria admitted that Qasab knows a limited amount. "We have a limb, not the brain of the organisation behind the attack".

Qasab is one of ten militants who launched a series of commando-style raids across Mumbai in November claiming at least 170 lives.

Owing to the threat posed to the life of Qasab, his trial is held inside a 50-foot tall steel and concrete cage, which has been built around a special courtroom inside Mumbai's high security Arthur Road Jail, where Qasab is being held.

The structure was built to thwart a rocket attack amid fears that Pakistan-based militants would target the proceedings. Qasab will travel from his cell to the court in a new bomb-proof corridor.

 

[Screaming Skull]

Kasab trial: 109 witnesses to be examined ​

MUMBAI: The prosecution in the Mumbai terror attack case on Saturday informed the special court that it would examine more than 100 witnesses including those from Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and foreign experts to establish the complicity of Mo hamamed Amir Ajmal Kasab and other accused.

Special public prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam said about 1,820 witnesses have been cited in the case but only 109 potential witnesses will be examined. Nikam gave a graphic account of the evidence gathered by the police against Kasab and co-accused Fahim Ansari and Sabauddin Ahmed.

Nikam said that five Global Positioning System (GPS) instruments have been recovered. “Two GPSs from Taj Mahal hotel, one from Oberoi Hotel and one GPS from Nariman house were recovered after the terror attack. The instruments have been sent for analysis to USA,'' he said. The prosecutor said that he would rely upon the experts' opinion on the data pertaining to land and sea routes used by the accused to reach the shores of Mumbai to commit the terror attacks.

 

[jeypore]

Shocker - Kasab pleads Not Guilty



Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, the terrorist on trial for last year's Mumbai attacks, wants to retract his confession, claiming it was extracted by torture, his defence lawyer, Abbas Kazmi, told reporters on Friday.

On his instruction, a retraction application has been filed, retracting the so-called alleged confession," said the lawyer, who is defending Pakistani national Kasab.

"He's going to plead not guilty," he added.

Kazmi told reporters that Kasab claimed the confession, made to a local magistrate while he was in police custody, was "extracted out of coercion and force and it was not a voluntary confession."

He quoted Kasab as claiming he had been "physically tortured."

Earlier in court, Kasab’s lawyer said his client had told him that he "had not even reached the age of 17" when the attacks took place last November. "He is still under 18. In such circumstances he is deemed to be a juvenile and this court has no jurisdiction to try this case," Abbas Kazmi told the trial court.

The court, however, dismissed the accused application that claimed he was a ‘juvenile’.

Public prosecutor Ujwal Nikam rejected the Pakistani national’s submission, saying that in both Kasab's "confession statement" to the police and on transfer to jail, he had said he was 21".

"On the day of the incident, November 26, 2008, he had completed 21 years, two months and some 13 days," Nikam said.

Judge M L Tahiliyani asked Kasab to stand in the dock and then commented: "As one looks at accused No 1, it does not appear that he is below 17 years."

Rejecting the application, the judge added, "In my considered opinion, the plea is frivolous and intended to delay the trial."

Kasab faces a string of charges including "waging war" on India, murder, attempted murder and kidnapping.

He faces the death penalty if convicted of taking part in the attacks, which left more than 160 dead and hundreds more wounded.


Shocker - Kasab pleads Not Guilty | India.com

 

[Screaming Skull]

FBI played 'vital role' in Mumbai attacks probe: prosecutor​

Saturday, April 18, 2009

MUMBAI: The US Federal Bureau of Investigation played a key part in establishing the case against the suspected gunman on trial in India for last year's Mumbai attacks, a court heard Saturday.

"FBI investigators have played a vital role in disclosing the truth in this case... and exposing the nexus between (Mohammed Ajmal Kasab) and the deceased accused," said public prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam.

Kasab, 21, is alleged to have been part of a wider criminal conspiracy by the banned militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba and unnamed "supporting agencies".

Some 166 people died and more than 300 were injured when 10 heavily armed gunmen rampaged through India's financial and entertainment capital, attacking two luxury hotels, the main railway station, a Jewish centre and other targets.

Kasab is the only surviving alleged gunman.

Nikam said in his opening remarks at a top security prison court in Mumbai that the FBI and other specialists had discovered a number of clues that strengthened the prosecution case.

 

[DarkStar]

The 'supposed' terrorist that phoned the Bharti News Channel.

It reads like a Shakespearean Comedy.

1. He's a Bharti PUnjabi, as his accent while speaking Urdu/Hindi is suspiciously like someone from East PUnjab would speak Urdu/Hindi.

2. He's posing as a Pakistani, who is pretending to be a Deccani. This can be gathered by the way he tries to use Urdu words like "Dehshat gardi" "Huqooq", etc.

3. He's obviously NOT deccani, as he has no Urdu accent to speak of, and did not know who the CM of Andhra Pradesh was.

4. His reversion to words used in HIndi (mudh bidhh, prasaashan, shanti, and others) when he is speaking in haste, points towards a limited Urdu vocabulary, or indeed Pakistani punjabi vocabulary, which also uses Urduized words. BAsically, his Hindi starts where his Urdu finishes. Thus, he is not a Pakistani Urdu/PUnjabi speaker.

5. If he was really a Pakistani, posing as a deccani, he would not have had to use any Hindi vocabulary, as the Urdu vocabulary would have been just fine. Of course, a change in accent would have been required to sound convincing.

6. He doesn't even attempt a false Deccani accent, because he is trying his best to be a 'fake' deccani, so as to make people believe he's Pakistani.

My Question : Why would an Pakistani Urdu PUnjabi speaker, who is pretending to be a deccani Urdu speaker, instead use Hindi words, that are not used in Pakistani Punjabi/Urdu nor Deccani Urdu? Is he trying to get caught out?

All in all, a very feeble attempt at subterfuge.

 

[Gabbar]

'I'll give you target when we get there'

Mumbai: The city's posh south Mumbai locality, Malabar Hill, was one of the target areas for the terrorists who unleashed terror and mayhem in Mumbai on 26/11.

A day after opening the arguments in the 26/11 trial, special public prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam told the court that Mohammed Ajmal Amir alias Kasab and his slain accomplice Abu Ismail were headed towards Malabar Hill after firing outside Cama Hospital but what they were going to target was known only to Ismail.

Nikam said that after Ajmal and Ismail sat in the Skoda car which they stole from the owner Sharad Arsa near Vidhan Bhavan, there was a conversation between Ajmal and Ismail. As per the prosecution, Ajmal had said in his confession that he asked Ismail where to go from there.

"Pehle Ismail se puchha kahan? Usne kaha Malabar Hill. Maine puchha wahan kahan? Usne kaha wahan jaakar bataunga (I first asked Ismail where we are going. He said Malabar Hill. I asked where in Malabar Hill. He said he would tell me when we get there)," Ajmal had said in his confession of February 17 which he retracted in court on Saturday.

"They had a definite plan but it was inconsistent with the conspiracy hatched in Pakistan," Nikam told the court. Since Ajmal himself did not know the reason
behind going to Malabar Hill, the prosecution has not stated any reasons for the same yet.

However, if the terrorist duo was not intercepted by police sub-inspector Tukaram Omble, who was martyred combating terrorists and his senior Sanjay Govilkar who was injured in the attack, they would have unleashed terror on the city's prime locality housing most VIPs.

Since Ismail was killed while exchanging bullets with the police near Chowpatty and Ajmal was injured and arrested, their further plans of attacking Malabar Hill were thwarted. Had they gone past the police, places like Raj Bhavan, the chief minister's residence Varsha, the Walkeshwar temple and Rocky Hill that houses the Chief Justice of the Bombay High Court, would have all been on the terror radar.

Nikam submitted evidence gathered by the Mumbai police crime branch with the help of international investigating agencies like the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to the special court.

Nikam told the court further, "For establishing the guilt of the accused we would like to rely on some technical evidence." He said that the technical evidence was gathered with the help of experts from the FBI. He added that the technical evidence was divided into two parts - one establishing the nexus between Ajmal and the slain nine terrorists and the other establishing the nexus between Ajmal, the nine terrorists and the wanted accused from Pakistan.

Nikam said that fingerprints found on the glass door of Kuber, the Indian speedboat that they entered Mumbai on, were that of Ajmal and they matched the prints of his left hand. DNA samples were collected from 135 articles. The DNA samples were collected from blankets, handkerchiefs, an Israeli cap, a monkey cap and jackets found on Kuber. "Forensic experts matched the DNA profile of Kasab and the other nine on six articles," Nikam said.

A diary written in Urdu was also found on Kuber which the police translated in Hindi. Nikam told the court that the diary had an account of the name of each of the ten terrorists, their duty hours and also the distribution of arms and ammunition among them.

The diary also mentioned the latitude and longitude of four places in India by sea-route.
Nikam added that five Global Positioning System (GPS) handsets were recovered from different sites -- two from Taj, one from Oberoi, one from Nariman House, and one from Kuber. Nikam said that these GPS handsets were sent to the FBI laboratories and they have opined that of the five, three GPS handsets show the sea and land route used by the terrorists from Karachi to Badhwar Park and then to Café Leopold. However, two handsets were damaged and could not be examined.

Further technical evidence forwarded by the prosecution includes the Yamaha engine of the speedboat. "The FBI has informed us that the Yamaha engine was manufactured in Japan and sent to business and engineering prints in Pakistan.

As per the prosecution, each of the terrorist had a mobile phone. However, the police recovered only five handsets. These cell phones were manufactured in China and shipped to Pakistan.

Nikam said that Ajmal's move to retract his confession was an after thought. He will submit the technical evidence to prove the nexus between Ajmal, the nine slain terrorists and the wanted accused at the next hearing. Special judge ML Tahiliyani has adjourned the case till April 20.

The prosecution has submitted a list of 1,820 witnesses and 1,350 documents in the chargesheet. Nikam gave a break up of how many witnesses will be examined in the 12 cases that Ajmal is being tried in. He is charged with direct involvement in seven and being a conspirator in the remaining.

 

[Captain03]

military-backed phone company?
r u serious
this is the biggest bs i have ever seen
and it doesnt matter if he's innocent or not
the indians are still gonna hang him to help keep their nation stabilized

 

[white_pawn]

military-backed phone company?
r u serious
this is the biggest bs i have ever seen
and it doesnt matter if he's innocent or not
the indians are still gonna hang him to help keep their nation stabilized

Cant say any thing about Phone comment as its Mr. Nikam quote and have no idea if he has proof for it or not. hanging is way less punishment for him for the the crime he has done.

 

[Rabbit.Rabbit]

If his trail goes in this way, Who knows probably he would be released!!!
May be not now may be after 20 years.

He was seen by dozens of people and atleast one professional photographer shooting at people with an assault weapon, and that's just the beginning. He's going to get hanged, its just a matter of time.

In the mean time, expect his lawyer to make a good defence of it - he's allege torture, say he's underage, use all sorts of legal loopholes to defend the guy.
Expect also the lawyer's career to soar as all manner of criminals (read politicians) queue up to hire his stellar services.

Now you know why people hate lawyers.

 

[Rabbit.Rabbit]

FBI agents to testify at Mumbai attacks trial
By RAJESH SHAH – 15 hours ago
The Associated Press: FBI agents to testify at Mumbai attacks trial
MUMBAI, India (AP) — More than 100 witnesses, including U.S. FBI agents, will testify at the trial of the man police say is the only surviving gunman in the bloody Mumbai siege, Indian prosecutors said Saturday.

Five foreign experts will present evidence against Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, special public prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam told the court Saturday on the second day of the trial.

Kasab is accused of being one of 10 gunmen who killed 166 people, including several Americans, in a three-day rampage through the city that targeted a train station, two luxury hotels and a Jewish center.

Nikam said the FBI had analyzed four global positioning devices found on the dead gunmen after the attacks and these would be instrumental in proving the men had come from Pakistan.

Opening the trial Friday, Nikam said Kasab had a direct hand in the deaths of 72 people and was part of "a criminal conspiracy hatched in Pakistan" which could not have been undertaken without training from "intelligence professionals" in Pakistan.

India has blamed the Muslim militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Pakistani officials have acknowledged the November attacks were partly plotted on their soil and announced criminal proceedings against eight suspects. They also have acknowledged that Kasab is Pakistani but have repeatedly denied their intelligence agencies were involved in the attack.

Kasab and his co-defendants — two Indians accused of helping plot the attack — have been charged with 12 criminal counts, including murder and waging war against India. If convicted, all could face death by hanging.

 

[Zob]

ISLAMABAD: A Pakistani lawyer C M Farooque claimed that many people, including Ajmal Kasab, were arrested before 2006 from Kathmandu by the Indian agencies with the help of Nepalese forces.

He said Ajmal Kasab went to the Napalese capital on a business tour. His application regarding his arrest was lying pending in the Nepalese Supreme Court in which a reply was sought from Nepalese forces and Indian High Commission.

While talking to the Geo News, C M Farooque Advocate said the Nepalese forces arrested almost 200 people including Ajmal Kasab before 2006 and his application in this regard was lying pending in the Nepalese Supreme Court in which Nepalese forces and Indian High Commission were made respondents.

The advocate said he wrote letters to Pakistan and Indian governments in this regard. He said that he had also addressed a press conference in Nepal highlighting the issue in which he revealed that the Nepalese forces arrested Ajmal Kasab and many others and held them at an unknown place and that these people would be used for their ulterior designs at some later stage. He said that he had no contact with Ajmal Kasab ever since he disappeared.

The lawyer said he was still pleading the case of Kasab and was to visit Nepal towards the end of this month. The Nepalese Supreme Court had repeatedly issued notices to the respondents to furnish their reply but they did not submit any reply.

Advocate Farooque said he had filed the petition in the Nepalese Supreme Court in February 2008. He said he was running an NGO, ‘Voice of Human and Prisoners Rights’ and the parents of Ajmal Kasab contacted him for help in this regard after appealing to the Pakistan Government for help.

The people arrested in Nepal had gone there on legal visa for business but Indian agencies were in the habit of capturing Pakistanis from Nepal and afterwards implicated them in the Mumbai-like incidents to malign Pakistan.


THE question i ask is .....we can train a man to go for out of area operations we can tell him what to do but we forget to fix his accents and forget the fact that he is carrying MADE IN PAKISTAN Pickles!!! and the best part is we tell someone to act hyderbadi and SPEAK IN HINDI.... i mean seriously...

 

[All-Green]

Fantastic. Nice open media trial for Kasab to make all manner of accusations, and for Indian officials to bumble and bluster along while utterly embarassing themselves in front of the world.

Sometimes one feels that a nice quick execution via firing squad is needed for such people. This man was after all captured in the act of waging war against the Indian state on the behalf of an enemy state.

Care to elaborate on the enemy state referred in your post R.R?

 

[shukla_swapnil]

Seems like Kasab and his lawyers are working hard on delaying tactics. He today claimed he could not follow court's proceedings in English...


The Hindu News Update Service

Mumbai (PTI): Prime accused and lone surviving terrorist of the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks, Mohammed Ajmal Amir Kasab, on Monday departed from his earlier stand, saying he could not understand the proceedings of the court conducted in English.

"Except for words ... Kasab and Pakistan .... I cannot understand what the prosecutor is telling the court," accused Kasab told Judge M L Tahilyani.

Twice earlier, Kasab had told the court that he could follow the proceedings and also that he could understand English. But, on Monday, he took a different stand.

When Kasab was produced before the court, he looked dull and sat with folded hands without displaying any feelings or emotions. This prompted the judge to have a dialogue with him.

Judge : "Tumhari problem kya hai?" (what is your problem?)

Kasab : "Meri problem yeh hai ki kuch bhi samajhnmein nahin aata" (My problem is that I cannot understand anything)

Judge : Kyun? (Why?)

Kasab : Sirf Kasab aur Pakistan Yehi hi sunayi deta hai (I can hear only Kasab and Pakistan, the rest I cannot follow) Hindi mein ho jai to acha hoga (it will be fine if proceedings are conducted in Hindi).

Judge : Tumhari Tabhiyat to thik hai? (Are you all right?)

At this juncture Prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam intervened to say Kasab was all right and appeared to be fine.

Nikam then continued with his submissions.

Another PTI story adds:

Prosecution submits charges against Kasab, 2 others

The prosecution on Monday submitted a draft of 312 charges it proposes to be framed against Pakistan national Mohammmed Ajmal Amir Kasab and two Indians, Faheem Ansari and Sabauddin Ahmed, facing trial for gunning down 166 persons and injuring another 238 in the terror strike in Mumbai.

Thirty five accused are shown as wanted in the 166-page document of draft charges, submitted by special public prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam to the court.

Those wanted include Hafeez Mohammed Saeed, chief of Lashkar-e-Tayyaba (LeT), Zaki-Ur-Rehman Lakhvi and Abu Hamza.

The accused have been charged under the provisions of IPC, Arms Act, Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act, Explosives Act, Explosives Substances Act, Passport (entry into India) Act, Prevention of Damage to Public Property Act, Railways Act, Customs Act and Foreigners Act.

Prosecutor Nikam said Kasab, Ansari and Sabauddin were charged with murder of 166 persons and injuring 238. Under IPC, they were charged with waging war against India, conspiracy, murder, attempt to murder, causing grievous injuries, wrongful confinement, wrongful restraint and causing mischief by fire.

While Kasab and nine others committed terrorist acts by gunning down people at various places in Mumbai, Ansari and Sabauddin had prepared maps and handed them over to the LeT in Pakistan following a conspiracy hatched between December 2007 and November 2008.