Air Force Chiefs leaves for China

[Ajai Ghale]

Sorry to distrub you but a question has rise in my mind is that when PAF has counter the IAF procurement be it m2k, Jaguar, Su-30.. and rafale is on the way ..

and here everyone is talking about how to counter future Indian Procurement..
Please just counter MKI it will be enough

There is no future procurement of Jaguar and Mirage 2000 and they are no for Air Superiority Role.

However SU 30 will be upgraded with AESA plus more SUs (300+)/apart from 100 + MIG 29UPG/K are for Air superiority Role.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Ek kilo dahi .. Biryani masala packet .. Dhaniya or podena .. ( esa hi kuch lagg rah)

ab tumhari sooch hi CHef wali hai me kya krn

 

[MastanKhan]

Mastan Khan
I had a very long. chat with an economist who had been a Vp world bank and taken retirement at 45 becuase he did not neex the money anymore. He knew short cut Aziz personally. Any ways he was sayi g that the only reason things are looking good in 2007 was because of the deferred payments on all the borrowings and the money from 5he sell offs. If you look at the actual industrial growth there was very little or none. The ectricity crisis was not of Zardaris doing much as I hate that man. There were visible gaps in the production of electricitywhich was being made wlrse by the fact that the PSO was made to sell oil to these oil based units without payments for 90 days at a time. When they reneged on payment PSO stopped supplying them oil and the rest we know. Zardari was corrupt and incompetant to the core and made a bad situation worse but the ròots of it all lie in the lack of a tandgible direction for things. I had a debate at the time and all and sundry poopooed me.All you can say is AZ was the worst but Musharraf wasn't any better.
Araz

Hi,

I give the example of a relay race----4x400. The baton needs to be carried forward without slowing down----. Pakistani politicians have made it a habbit of stopping the race and then starting all over.

PPPP govt is well known for destroying all previous programs.

All the agitation against Musharraf was deceitful and deceptive----when he was willing to handover the govt---there was no reason for agitation---.

Then the nation picks up the worst looters and plunderers of all time---those who were waiting on the sidelines and going crazy to get to their share.

That economist you mentions is a BS con artist---. The nation cut its own legs when they brought in Zardari---he destroyed all the businesses---wanted PAYOLA from all of them to run---.

So much money looted and plundered in Pakistan---the prices sky rocketing----for everything---now there are those who have it and are on their way of having it and then there are those who got nothing.

 

[SQ8]

Mastan Khan
I had a very long. chat with an economist who had been a Vp world bank and taken retirement at 45 becuase he did not neex the money anymore. He knew short cut Aziz personally. Any ways he was sayi g that the only reason things are looking good in 2007 was because of the deferred payments on all the borrowings and the money from 5he sell offs. If you look at the actual industrial growth there was very little or none. The ectricity crisis was not of Zardaris doing much as I hate that man. There were visible gaps in the production of electricitywhich was being made wlrse by the fact that the PSO was made to sell oil to these oil based units without payments for 90 days at a time. When they reneged on payment PSO stopped supplying them oil and the rest we know. Zardari was corrupt and incompetant to the core and made a bad situation worse but the ròots of it all lie in the lack of a tandgible direction for things. I had a debate at the time and all and sundry poopooed me.All you can say is AZ was the worst but Musharraf wasn't any better.
Araz

It was a propped up economic "rise" based on consumerism. Even the slightest bit of actual growth or economic development would have survived better than the false façade painted by Musharraf.

 

[MastanKhan]

It was a propped up economic "rise" based on consumerism. Even the slightest bit of actual growth or economic development would have survived better than the false façade painted by Musharraf.

Hi,

That is one of the most pathetic two line analysis that I have ever read on this board.

 

[Erroroverload]

you have no enemy to fight out side Pakistan anyway..
plus no matter what you put in Jf-17 , its almost impossible for Jf to compete with Rafale ...

hi
with all of the knowledge and experience u have , i completely disagree with u
we can make jf17 at par with Rafale, not in a two or three years but in 5 or 6 years

 

[Windjammer]

PAF SPOKESPERSON
4:52 AM


AIR CHIEF VISITS CENTRAL MILITARY COMMISSION AND
CATIC HEADQUARTERS AT CHINA

ISLAMABAD 02 JUNE, 2015: Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman, Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force visited China Central Military Commission (CMC), and called on General Fan Changlong, Vice-Chairmen Central Military Commission. Both the dignitaries remained together for some time and discussed various matters of professional interest and strategic cooperation. While commenting on Pak-India relations and recent remarks of Indian foreign minister, the Air Chief emphasized on achievement of peace through dialogue under the umbrella of conventional balance. He further stressed on enhancement of military cooperation between the two countries. Both the leaders expressed a firm resolve in accentuating the existing military cooperation between the two countries and with the pledge to explore new venues for undertaking technology intensive programmes as capacity building measures.
Earlier, the Air Chief also met Mr Liu Jian Chao Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs on South Asia Affairs. The Air Chief lauded the sentiments emanating out of the recent visit of the President Xi Jing Ping and mentioned that this visit has left behind an indelible imprint. He said that this landmark visit has carved a new vista in successful realization of strategic cooperation on economic corridor. CAS asserted that this strategic cooperation would yield far-reaching economic benefits and regional security was instrumental for this purpose. He further highlighted the contributions of PAF to curb the menace of terrorism and said that PAF was playing a lead role in eliminating the terrorists hide outs including ETIM elements. He also assured the Assistant Minister of Pakistan’s efforts towards enhancing peace and stability in the region. He however mentioned this could only be achieved through a close and well coordinated cooperation. The Minister assured the Air Chief towards all out support to Pakistan and vowed that concerted efforts would be made towards successful accomplishment of new avenues including Economic corridor. He nevertheless urged that foolproof security arrangements should be provided towards systematic accomplishment of this strategic venture.
Later in the evening, the CAS also visited National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation (CATIC) Headquarters. The Air Chief held detailed meetings with the top leadership of CATIC including its President Mr Yang Ying. CATIC is co-producing JF17 Thunder aircraft in collaboration with Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra. This historic programme has taken the friendship between the two friendly countries to further heights. The Air Chief expressed his satisfaction on the production cycle of JF-17 programme and reiterated his resolve to take the JF-17 production to the next level i.e producing the block III aircraft in record time. He termed JF-17 aircraft as destiny of Pakistan Air Force. The Air Chief is on a five days official visit to China.
@Oscar , Recognise the guy sitting on Air chief's right. !!

 

[Hell hound]

hi
with all of the knowledge and experience u have , i completely disagree with u
we can make jf17 at par with Rafale, not in a two or three years but in 5 or 6 years

care to explain and backup your claim sir

 

[Erroroverload]

care to explain and backup your claim sir

jf 17 blk 3 is getting aesa with structural changes
n let me tell u blk 4 will b equal 2 rafale

 

[Zarvan]

ISLAMABAD: Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force (PAF), Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman, who is on a five-day official visit to China on Wednesday visited 24 Air Div at Tianjin, China.

On his arrival, he was received by Senior Colonel Wang Hongyan, Commander 24 Air Div. He was given briefing about the working of 24 Air Div and Chinese latest J-10 fighter aircraft and its capabilities, said a PAF press release issued here.

The Air Chief also witnessed the aerobatics of J-10 aircraft by the famous Ba Yi aerobatics team of PLAAF.

He appreciated the skills of the Chinese pilots and the maneuverability of J-10 aircraft.

Later on, the Air Chief also visited Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAC) and Chengdu Aircraft design Institute (CADI).

He was given a presentation by the management of CADI encompassing various projects of the industry.

He also visited the workshops and laboratories and appreciated the work standards being maintained at the industry. He also witnesses the ongoing modifications on JF-17 Prototype -5 aircraft and simulator at CADI.

The Air Chief also met with the PAF personnel working at CADI and lauded their contributions and asked them to keep on working with same zeal and devotion. The Air Chief is on a five-day official visit to China. –APP

 

[Hell hound]

jf 17 blk 3 is getting aesa with structural changes
n let me tell u blk 4 will b equal 2 rafale

can u provide link for structural changes and block 4 confirmation.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

ISLAMABAD: Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force (PAF), Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman, who is on a five-day official visit to China on Wednesday visited 24 Air Div at Tianjin, China.

On his arrival, he was received by Senior Colonel Wang Hongyan, Commander 24 Air Div. He was given briefing about the working of 24 Air Div and Chinese latest J-10 fighter aircraft and its capabilities, said a PAF press release issued here.

The Air Chief also witnessed the aerobatics of J-10 aircraft by the famous Ba Yi aerobatics team of PLAAF.

He appreciated the skills of the Chinese pilots and the maneuverability of J-10 aircraft.

Later on, the Air Chief also visited Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAC) and Chengdu Aircraft design Institute (CADI).

He was given a presentation by the management of CADI encompassing various projects of the industry.

He also visited the workshops and laboratories and appreciated the work standards being maintained at the industry. He also witnesses the ongoing modifications on JF-17 Prototype -5 aircraft and simulator at CADI.

The Air Chief also met with the PAF personnel working at CADI and lauded their contributions and asked them to keep on working with same zeal and devotion. The Air Chief is on a five-day official visit to China. –APP

Pakistan after this...

 

[Tipu7]

ISLAMABAD: Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force (PAF), Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman, who is on a five-day official visit to China on Wednesday visited 24 Air Div at Tianjin, China.

On his arrival, he was received by Senior Colonel Wang Hongyan, Commander 24 Air Div. He was given briefing about the working of 24 Air Div and Chinese latest J-10 fighter aircraft and its capabilities, said a PAF press release issued here.

The Air Chief also witnessed the aerobatics of J-10 aircraft by the famous Ba Yi aerobatics team of PLAAF.

He appreciated the skills of the Chinese pilots and the maneuverability of J-10 aircraft.

Later on, the Air Chief also visited Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAC) and Chengdu Aircraft design Institute (CADI).

He was given a presentation by the management of CADI encompassing various projects of the industry.

He also visited the workshops and laboratories and appreciated the work standards being maintained at the industry. He also witnesses the ongoing modifications on JF-17 Prototype -5 aircraft and simulator at CADI.

The Air Chief also met with the PAF personnel working at CADI and lauded their contributions and asked them to keep on working with same zeal and devotion. The Air Chief is on a five-day official visit to China. –APP

Zarvan are you with air chief? If yes say my hello and plz report China weather too

Pakistan after this...

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What is this? Its not stealth at all. Looks like new version of J10''.........

 

[Zarvan]

Zarvan are you with air chief? If yes say my hello and plz report China weather too


What is this? Its not stealth at all. Looks like new version of J10''.........

Pakistan should buy J-10 B at least 3. squadrons

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Zarvan are you with air chief? If yes say my hello and plz report China weather too


What is this? Its not stealth at all. Looks like new version of J10''.........

It is J-13. No further details still.
The CADI is responsible for the J-XX 5th Generation Fighter Aircraft, a stealth fighter project designated J-13.

This looks like a single engine 5th gen aircraft. If you see the picture you would see twin tail and enclosed weapons bay along with a stealthier design.