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Aboriginal Races of Frontier prior to the Pashtun invasions

Shocking how low some people would get. And they must be Kashmiri, as Kashmir doesn't reall have kaasbis I imagine. Also, Aziz Bhatti's nishan-e-haider was challenged by brigadier tajammal malik. And Aziz Bhatti's full name was Raja Aziz Bhatti. I noticed the rathore Kashmiris from Kashur regions quickly adapting the Raja title in the AJK. I find this all rather strange..

And I had thought Raheel was a Chibh, but Chibhs are only found in northern and Serai Alamgir parts of Gujrat. I also noticed that Chibs look rather different compared to Gujjars, Jatts etc.

Its hardly matter because at the end that family have given 2 nishane haider and current COAS, another nail in the coffin martial race theory :lol:

Anyway if you are interested in how chib looks then just seach "kharian chib" in facebook. People with surname chib will come out.
 
Its hardly matter because at the end that family have given 2 nishane haider and current COAS, another nail in the coffin martial race theory :lol:

Anyway if you are interested in how chib looks then just seach "kharian chib" in facebook. People with surname chib will come out.

Of course it doesn't. Brave individuals can be found in every race but that doesn't negate the martial race theory. As I mentioned earlier, Nanda was a shudra, but that doesn't prove that there's no difference between the fighting capabilities of a hindustani rajput and a shudar for comparison. Similarly, Uzbeks as a nation would be much more martial than, say, Seraiki jatts. Martial theory is correct to a large extent. Martial race might have more to do with culture than genetics though.

They look like the people of Bhimber... Bhimberites and Chibs are originally Dogras. You still have Chib Dogras in Jammu.

Infact there are no bhattis in the entire valley
There are a few Pashtun speaking Pathans in baramulla and some ahmadiyyas who are called mirzai in baramulla



Well most people think it was the Peshwas who led to the downfall of the Maratha empire .
Although independent Maratha barons had equal share in its downfall .
Brother Can you share a bit more about it

Are there Awans in Kashmir valley? A friend of mine claims to be an Awan from there. I know there are Pahari awans, but what about Kashmir valley?

And man, Marhattas are overrated. Biharis are the most martial people in India. They made the Mauryan Empire, and rule India with an iron fist now.
 
Of course it doesn't. Brave individuals can be found in every race but that doesn't negate the martial race theory. As I mentioned earlier, Nanda was a shudra, but that doesn't prove that there's no difference between the fighting capabilities of a hindustani rajput and a shudar for comparison. Similarly, Uzbeks as a nation would be much more martial than, say, Seraiki jatts. Martial theory is correct to a large extent. Martial race might have more to do with culture than genetics though.

They look like the people of Bhimber... Bhimberites and Chibs are originally Dogras. You still have Chib Dogras in Jammu.

I was reading shuhdra meaning. In hinduism shudra is basically like punjabi "kammi" who serve zamindars. And work in other people homes/zameen for food/money. Kasbi bhattis for exemple are not zamindar but neither they are kammi in punjabi caste system.

Shudra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bhimber have lots of tribes, search bhimber awan, gujjar etc on facebook. Usually i just seach clan surnames+location on facebook.
 
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And I had thought Raheel was a Chibh, but Chibhs are only found in northern and Serai Alamgir parts of Gujrat. I also noticed that Chibs look rather different compared to Gujjars, Jatts etc.

Raheel's paternal side is using the title ' Rana'. I would assume that it's more than one group that does so in Gujarat and some would not necessarily be local but historic migrants during the British era most likely or even before that. It seems that Punjab and potohar had lots of movement in those times but of course there's no way to 100% find out. Though it'll be something to see these 'Ranas' turn out to be fakers lol.
As for different areas having different pockets of people, Zafar Ali Khan , famous Khilafat movement scholar and intellectual has been written in history as Janjua Rajput but was from Wazirabad, Gujranwala. I read about his rajput origins. So these 'Ranas' could be rajputs that have moved from other parts of Punjab to Gujarat etc . or something along those lines.
 
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Raheel's paternal side is using the title ' Rana'. I would assume that it's more than one group that does so in Gujarat and some would not necessarily be local but historic migrants during the British era most likely or even before that. It seems that Punjab and potohar had lots of movement in those times but of course there's no way to 100% find out. Though it'll be something to see these 'Ranas' turn out to be fakers lol.
As for different areas having different pockets of people, Zafar Ali Khan , famous Khilafat movement scholar and intellectual has been written in history as Janjua Rajput but was from Wazirabad, Gujranwala. I read about his rajput origins. So these 'Ranas' could be rajputs that have moved from parts of Punjab to Gujarat etc . or something along those lines.

Central Punjabi rajputs use Rana while Potohari ones use Raja. As far as if they are fake or not, only someone from from Kunjah can confirm this. People here believe Raheel paternal side is also kasbi/kashmiri because mother is kasbi.

i found this after googling kasbi, some bhatti kasbi from Dadyal.

''I'm a Bhatti also known as kasvi(kasbi) from dadyal, i grew up in dadyal and most of my friends are jats,rajas,gujjars
when i came to england then i realised that pakistanis of England really don't know any thing about casts,
yes casfi's are known to be lower cast then rajas and jatts but they are not the lowest cast in Pakistan
You tell me How can we be lower then any cast, we are the one's who have covered your bodies with clothing otherwise you so cold upper class people
would still be running around with leaf's on your bodies ;)
To my knowledge most of the land jats have was given to them by the British rulers if you don't believe me then do your own research (traters)farmers with no education''
Is it insulting to call a Muslim Kasfi? [Archive] - Ummah.com - Muslim Forum


Also notice this from bhatti family timeline

''1925 89 marlas of land (1 1/8 acres of land) bearing Khasra No. 335, originally property of Allah Ditta Gujjar (alias "Tala Bala") transferred in Tehsil Kharian Revenue Records to Nur Din's sons''

So the land given to Bhattis in Ladian originally belonged to some gujjar, or maybe they brought it.
 
Central Punjabi rajputs use Rana while Potohari ones use Raja. As far as if they are fake or not, only someone from from Kunjah can confirm this. People here believe Raheel paternal side is also kasbi/kashmiri because mother is kasbi.

i found this after googling kasbi, some bhatti kasbi from Dadyal.

''I'm a Bhatti also known as kasvi(kasbi) from dadyal, i grew up in dadyal and most of my friends are jats,rajas,gujjars
when i came to england then i realised that pakistanis of England really don't know any thing about casts,
yes casfi's are known to be lower cast then rajas and jatts but they are not the lowest cast in Pakistan
You tell me How can we be lower then any cast, we are the one's who have covered your bodies with clothing otherwise you so cold upper class people
would still be running around with leaf's on your bodies ;)
To my knowledge most of the land jats have was given to them by the British rulers if you don't believe me then do your own research (traters)farmers with no education''
Is it insulting to call a Muslim Kasfi? [Archive] - Ummah.com - Muslim Forum


Also notice this from bhatti family timeline

''1925 89 marlas of land (1 1/8 acres of land) bearing Khasra No. 335, originally property of Allah Ditta Gujjar (alias "Tala Bala") transferred in Tehsil Kharian Revenue Records to Nur Din's sons''

So the land given to Bhattis in Ladian originally belonged to some gujjar, or maybe they brought it.

Interesting. BTW seems like our Kasbi friend is truly pissed off at jatts . 'Leafs on your bodies'? LOL. What world is he living in? Quite the loud-mouth hater. Either way I hope that in real life we treat each other humanely regard-less of caste/community .
And that's what I meant when I said that they might be from different parts of Punjab. I meant it in an opposite way to Zafar Ali Khan's situation( General Raheel's family moving from Sargodha let's say). Although I'm not necessarily implying that Zafar's family moved from Potohar to Gujranwala. What I meant is that there are pockets of different groups in different areas. When I first heard about General Raheel being a 'Rana' , I assumed at that time that he's descended from migrants from Eastern Punjab (earlier than partition, around British times somewhat) or more central parts of Punjab:-).lol.Also, Rai and Rao are big titles in Central Punjab. Anyways, we should definitely try to contact some record-keeper from his hometown and find out :p:.
On a side note, it seems like the loud-mouth Kasbi is quite the anti-jatt in the mould of Gujjars of parts of India . They seem pretty vocal about pretty much the same claim.
 
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All Muslims in South asian like to claim foreign ancestry like Pakistanis for example. that doesn't make it true. I can't tell the difference between a Hyderbadi Muslim and a Tamil Muslim. They look the same and they are the same.

Many muslims settled from outside South Asia, i am pretty sure they left their decendents behind. One even see many different tribes with non-hindu/indigenous origins in Pakistan.
 
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Which part in particular?? The downfall of the marathas?

Yes the downfall

Are there Awans in Kashmir valley? A friend of mine claims to be an Awan from there. I know there are Pahari awans, but what about Kashmir valley?

And man, Marhattas are overrated. Biharis are the most martial people in India. They made the Mauryan Empire, and rule India with an iron fist now.

What ever tribes you have in Azad Kashmir we have almost all of them though some may be present in small numbers
Can't tell particularly about the awans they are a small tribe and I don't think they have any large settlement in the valley but they may have significant population on the border areas with the Azad Kashmir

Does your friend speak kashmiri or pahari/dogri ?

I was reading shuhdra meaning. In hinduism shudra is basically like punjabi "kammi" who serve zamindars. And work in other people homes/zameen for food/money. Kasbi bhattis for exemple are not zamindar but neither they are kammi in punjabi caste system.

Shudra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bhimber have lots of tribes, search bhimber awan, gujjar etc on facebook. Usually i just seach clan surnames+location on facebook.

Thank god they have that option "show pictures to friends only" other wise some one can use your pic just for ethnological purposes
 
Raheel's paternal side is using the title ' Rana'. I would assume that it's more than one group that does so in Gujarat and some would not necessarily be local but historic migrants during the British era most likely or even before that. It seems that Punjab and potohar had lots of movement in those times but of course there's no way to 100% find out. Though it'll be something to see these 'Ranas' turn out to be fakers lol.
As for different areas having different pockets of people, Zafar Ali Khan , famous Khilafat movement scholar and intellectual has been written in history as Janjua Rajput but was from Wazirabad, Gujranwala. I read about his rajput origins. So these 'Ranas' could be rajputs that have moved from other parts of Punjab to Gujarat etc . or something along those lines.

The Janjuas of Potohar are quite distinct and different from the Janjuas from central, east and south Punjab. I doubt if the people from the regions I mentioned are related even distantly to the ones from Potohar, and I'm sure they're not recognized as rajput by the dominant rajput tribes which live there. I know a guy from Lahore, who says he is "Janjua tarkhan". I think these people might be descendants of janjua migrants from Potohar who got too diluted to be considered rajputs, or might not be janjua at all originally. As save_ghenda's posts mentioned, these fake surnames were taken by a lot castes and clans to get land grants from the british and to be enrolled into their army. I once also read a Sikh Janjua's post somewhere, where he said he was a maliyar(Arayeen).

Central Punjabi rajputs use Rana while Potohari ones use Raja. As far as if they are fake or not, only someone from from Kunjah can confirm this. People here believe Raheel paternal side is also kasbi/kashmiri because mother is kasbi.

i found this after googling kasbi, some bhatti kasbi from Dadyal.

''I'm a Bhatti also known as kasvi(kasbi) from dadyal, i grew up in dadyal and most of my friends are jats,rajas,gujjars
when i came to england then i realised that pakistanis of England really don't know any thing about casts,
yes casfi's are known to be lower cast then rajas and jatts but they are not the lowest cast in Pakistan
You tell me How can we be lower then any cast, we are the one's who have covered your bodies with clothing otherwise you so cold upper class people
would still be running around with leaf's on your bodies ;)
To my knowledge most of the land jats have was given to them by the British rulers if you don't believe me then do your own research (traters)farmers with no education''
Is it insulting to call a Muslim Kasfi? [Archive] - Ummah.com - Muslim Forum


Also notice this from bhatti family timeline

''1925 89 marlas of land (1 1/8 acres of land) bearing Khasra No. 335, originally property of Allah Ditta Gujjar (alias "Tala Bala") transferred in Tehsil Kharian Revenue Records to Nur Din's sons''

So the land given to Bhattis in Ladian originally belonged to some gujjar, or maybe they brought it.

If they are from Kashmir, then they can't be Kasbis. And if they're Kasbi, then they can't be Bhatti. And Bhatti is a rather notorious surname. Almost every Christian, Mirasi, Nai etc etc uses the surname Bhatti nowadays. Heck, even the mirasis from my village call themselves "Bhatti rajput". The true rajput bhattis are only found in the Pindi-Bhattian, Sargodha, Rawalpindi and Jhang(I think). The ones from Gujranwala have mixed with the Jatts, and are more or less Jatts now. The true bhattis from the regions I mentioned are rather light skinned and tall usually, unlike the Christian Bhattis etc. They usually use the title "Rai", which is a very old greater Punjab title.

With that said, most Bhatti rajputs have divided into sub-castes now. The Bhattis of Bhakkar for example are now called "Dhandla". The Noons, Uttras and Wattoos are also sub-castes of Bhattis. Manj Rajputs are also descended from the Bhattis. As for the title, in central Punjab, rajputs use the title "Rai" most of the times. The title Rana is usually used by the Manj rajputs, who are mostly found in Nankana Sahib and Sheikhupura. I think someone mentioned that the Khokhars of Jhang also use the title Rana.
 
Many muslims settled from outside South Asia, i am pretty sure they left their decendents behind. One even see many different tribes with non-hindu/indigenous origins in Pakistan.
The most people with foreign blood are Kashmiris.

I personally think that Paksitanis have Arab and Persian blood in them. One look at your faces and I can easily tell how has middle-eastern blood.
 
The Janjuas of Potohar are quite distinct and different from the Janjuas from central, east and south Punjab. I doubt if the people from the regions I mentioned are related even distantly to the ones from Potohar, and I'm sure they're not recognized as rajput by the dominant rajput tribes which live there. I know a guy from Lahore, who says he is "Janjua tarkhan". I think these people might be descendants of janjua migrants from Potohar who got too diluted to be considered rajputs, or might not be janjua at all originally. As save_ghenda's posts mentioned, these fake surnames were taken by a lot castes and clans to get land grants from the british and to be enrolled into their army. I once also read a Sikh Janjua's post somewhere, where he said he was a maliyar(Arayeen).



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Actually that's precisely what I had believed so the thing about Maulana Zafar Ali Khan being not just Janjua but a Rajput surprised me (despite being from wazirabad). That's why I used him as an example.But I'm not pointing towards historic movement of peoples hundreds if not a thousand years ago.I was pointing to lots of relatively recent movement in the last 200 years thanks to the Brits where people moved in different directions. Even right now due to urbanisation etc. people have moved large distances so the caste issue gets confusing. Many Islamabadis are not originally from that area , for example but moved very recently. So figuring out if a 'Rana' belongs to a local tribe or some other completely different locale alltogether becomes a difficult task.My surmise was that General Raheel's 'Rana' side may have come from the more centrish parts of Punjab or even Eastern Punjab (during the British times). I know what you are saying but my surmise was based on relatively recent migration rather than historic movement. Of course, there's no way to be 100% sure.
As far as people claiming a totally different and relatively unrelated origin are concerned, yeah it's pretty confusing.
 
If they are from Kashmir, then they can't be Kasbis. And if they're Kasbi, then they can't be Bhatti. And Bhatti is a rather notorious surname. Almost every Christian, Mirasi, Nai etc etc uses the surname Bhatti nowadays. Heck, even the mirasis from my village call themselves "Bhatti rajput". The true rajput bhattis are only found in the Pindi-Bhattian, Sargodha, Rawalpindi and Jhang(I think). The ones from Gujranwala have mixed with the Jatts, and are more or less Jatts now. The true bhattis from the regions I mentioned are rather light skinned and tall usually, unlike the Christian Bhattis etc. They usually use the title "Rai", which is a very old greater Punjab title.

With that said, most Bhatti rajputs have divided into sub-castes now. The Bhattis of Bhakkar for example are now called "Dhandla". The Noons, Uttras and Wattoos are also sub-castes of Bhattis. Manj Rajputs are also descended from the Bhattis. As for the title, in central Punjab, rajputs use the title "Rai" most of the times. The title Rana is usually used by the Manj rajputs, who are mostly found in Nankana Sahib and Sheikhupura. I think someone mentioned that the Khokhars of Jhang also use the title Rana.

Kasbi are known for weaving, they can be from Kashmir. Kasbi bhattis of Ladian are from Kashmir but i doubt they were Koshur speaking kashmiris. Koshur Kashmiris called themselves Butt.

Pindi-Bhattian is Gujranwala division and bhattis jatts are found in Faisalabad divvision also, its confusing to say the least. Ex-MNA from Hafizabad (pindi-bhattian) Chaudhry Mehdi Hassan Bhatti was jatt. While current MNA from same region Mian Shahid Hussain Khan Bhatti seem to be rajput. Dhandla come up as some seraiki jatt clan instead of bhattis.

Bhatti jatt zamindar just does not exist in Gujrat district IMO, others have taken bhatti surname. I don't know anyone in my extended family who have married any bhatti. I know we have Malik Khokhar in our extended family, because they are actual jatt zamindar/land owning khokhars in Gujrat/Sargodha.

But bhatti who are zamindar are only found east of Chenab because in Kharian at lesst bhattis are kasbi and not zamindar. Anyway its hard to know everything in one own district let alone 32 districts.
 
With that said, most Bhatti rajputs have divided into sub-castes now. The Bhattis of Bhakkar for example are now called "Dhandla". The Noons, Uttras and Wattoos are also sub-castes of Bhattis. Manj Rajputs are also descended from the Bhattis. As for the title, in central Punjab, rajputs use the title "Rai" most of the times. The title Rana is usually used by the Manj rajputs, who are mostly found in Nankana Sahib and Sheikhupura. I think someone mentioned that the Khokhars of Jhang also use the title Rana.

Its not rai but Rana and Rao in central punjab, even Raja is more common in central punjab then Rai. And some do not use any. But Rana and Raja are by far most common. This article is great source to known which member belonged to which caste from 2008 election. I will bold rajput names.

Punjab has 150 National Assembly seats out of which 149 have been decided. On a seat in NA-119 in Lahore, polling was postponed because of a candidate's death.

The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) has bagged around 63 National Assembly seats, the Pakistan People's Party (PPP), 44; the PML-Quaid (PML-Q), 28; the PML-Funtional (PML-F), one. In addition, independent candidates have bagged 13 seats.

The 149 members of the National Assembly, who were elected from across Punjab, belong to various castes and tribes. 19 MNAs belong to the Rajput (R) clan; 39 come from Jat (J) tribe; six of Jat/Rajput (Jr); 13 of Syed (S), eight of Qureshi (Q); 15 of Arain (Ar); eight of Awan (Aw); 11 of Biloch (B); six of Kashmiri (K); six of Pathan (P); two of Gujjar (G); two of Abbasi (Ab); five of Sheikh (Sh); two of Ansari (An); two of Dogar (D), one of Mughal; one of Kakkezai (KK); one of Mayo and one each of Khatter and Lahr (local caste) respectively.

PML-N: Out of its 63 MNAs, eight belong to J, one to Jr, five to S, three to Q, 14 to R, four to Aw, two to Ab, one to G, three to Sh, eight to Ar, two to B, six to K, two to D, two to An and one each to KK and Mughal, respectively.

The Jat MNAs of the PML-N are Sahibzada Fazle Kareem (Faisalabad), Mehmood Bashir Virik (Gujranwala), Justice (r) Iftikhar Cheema (Gujranwala), Saira Afzal Tarrar (Hafizabad), Naseer Ahmad Bhutta (Lahore), Barjees Tahir and Bilal Ahmad Virik (Nankan Sahib), Tehmina Daultana (Vehari).

The candidates belonging to Jr are Malik Afzal Khokhar (Lahore). The candidates of Ar are Junaid Anwar Choudhry (TT Singh), Ayaz Amir (Chakwal), Sumaira Naz (Narowal), Muhammad Riaz (Lahore), Mian Merghoob Ahmad and Sardar Ayaz Sadiq (Lahore), Mian Javeed Latif (Sheikhupura), Saud Majeed (Bahawalpur). Those belonging to B are Saifudin Khosa (DG Khan), Arshad Khan Leghari (RY Khan). The K candidates are Abid Ali (Faisalabad), Engineer Khurram Dastgir (Gujranwala), Khwaja Saad Rafique, Omar Sohail Zia Butt and Bilal Yaseen (Lahore), Khwaja Muhammad Asif (Sialkot). The PML-N's An candidates Muhammad Akram (Faisalabad), Usman Ibrahim (Gujranwala). The candidates from KK caste are Zahid Hamid (Sialkot)' D Sardar Muhammad Irfan (Sheikhupura), Mansab Ali Dogar (Pakpattan); Aw Malik Shakir Bashir (Khushab), Muhammad Faiz Tumman (Chakwal), Anjum Aqeek (Islamabad), Muhammad Jameel Malik (Gujrat); R are Dr Chaudhry Tariq Fazal (Islamabad), Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan (Rawalpindi), Raja Muhammad Safder and Raja Afzal (Jhelum), Rana Nazir (Gujranwala), Rana Abdul Sattar (Sialkot), Ahsan Iqbal (Narowal), Rana Tanveer Hussain (Sheikhupura), Rao Mazhar Hayat and Rana Ishaq (Kasur), Ranan Mehmoodul Hassan (Multan), Rana Zahid Hussain (Pakpattan). PML-N Ab candidates are Shahid Khakan Abbasi and Hanif Abbasi (Rawalpindi); G Malik Ibrar (Rawalpindi), Q are Javeed Hashmi (Rawalpindi, Lahore and Multan); Sh are Sheikh Aftab Ahmad (Attock), Rohil Asgher (Lhr), Waseem Akhter (Kasur); S Syed Murtaza Amin (Sialkot), Syed Javeed (Sargodha) Imran Ahmad (Sahiwal), Mohammad Salman (Pakpattan), Saqlain Shah (Layyah); Mughal Muhammad Baleeghul Rehman (Bahawalpur)

PPPP: Out of its 44 MNAs, one belongs to Khattar, one of Lahr, one of Mayo, one of Sh, two Jr, two of P, five of B, four of Ar, 14 of Jat, five of S, four of Q, one of G, two of R and one of Aw.

PPP's R MNAs are Raja Pervaiz Ashraf (Rawalpindi), Liaqat Ali Khan (Multan); Aw is Dr Ferdoos Ashiq (Sialkot); G is Omar Zaman Kaira (Gujrat); Q Tasneem Ahmad Qureshi (Sargodha), Makhdom Shah Mehmood Qureshi (Multan), Makhdom Shahbuddin (RY Khan), Mohsin Ali (Muzaffargarh); S Syed Anayat Ali (Jhang), Yousaf Gilani (Multan), Syed Mumtaz Alam and Hamid Saeed (Multan), Syed Sumsan Ali (Okara); J Nadeem Afzal Gondal (Sargodha), Tariq Bajwa, Malik Nawab Sher, Saeed Iqbal and Ijaz Virik (Faisalabad), Imtiaz Safder Warraich (Gujranwala), Tariq Tarra and Nazar Gondal (MB Din), Farid Kathia (Sahiwal), Azeem Daultana (Vehari), Hina Rabbani Khar (Muzaffargarh), Afzal Sindhu (Bahawalnager), Javed Iqbal Warraich (RY Khan), Chaudhry Ahmad Mukhatr (Gujrat); Ar Saima Khalid Ghurki (Lahore), Sardar Asif Ahmad (Kasur), Iftikhar Nazir (Khanewal), Zahid Iqbal (Sahiwal); B Rahila Perveen (Faisalabad), Mir Dost Mazari (Rajanpur), Jamsheed Dasti, Qayyum Jatoi and Moazzem Jatoi (Muzaffargarh); P Hayat Tochi Khan (Vehari), Hayatullah Tareen (Lodhran); Jr Cap (r) Mujtaba Kharral (Okara), Liaqat Abbas Bhatti (Hafizabad). Taiq Shabir Advocate (Lahore), Mian Abdul Sattar (RY Khan), Sardar Saleem Haider (Attock) and Sheikh Waqas Akram (Jhang) are belonging to Mayo, Lahr Khattar and Sh respectively.

PML-Q: Out of 28 MNAs 13 belong to J; two of Jr; one of Pathan (P); three of B; one of Ar; three of S; one of Sh; one of Q; one of R and one of Aw.

Aw Mehboob Sultan (Jhang), Sumaira Malik (Khushab), R Asif Tauseef (Faisalabad); Q Pir Aslam Bodla (Khanewal); Sh Sheikh Waqas Akram (Jhang); S Faisal Saleh Hayat (Jhang), Dewan Syed Ashiq (Multan), Mian Riaz Pirzada (Bahawalpur); J Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi (Attock), Ch Ghais Ahmad and Anwar Ali Cheema (Sargodha), Ghulam BiBi Bherwana (Jahang), Farkhanda Amjad Warraich and Riaz Fatiana (TT Singh), Wajahat Hussain (Gujrat), Sardar Talib Nakai (Kasur), Raza Hiraj and Hamid Hiraj (Khanewal), Nauman Langrial (Sahiwal), Nazir Ahmad Jatt (Vehari), Bahader Khan Sehar (Layyah); Ar Muhammad Asim Nazir (Faisalabad); B Sadiq Baloch (Lodhran), Farooq Leghari (DG Khan), Jaffar Leghari (Rajan Pur); P Khwaja Sheraz (DG Khan); Jr Akhtar Khadim Alias Khadim (Bahawalnager), Liaqat Abbas Bhatti (Hafizabad).

Independent: Total 13 independent MNAs have been elected on the part of Punjab and they belong to following clans, two of Jr; two of P; one of B; one of Ar; four of J; one of R; one of Aw and one of G.

Jr Mian Manzoor Watto (Okara); P Humair Hayat Rokhri and Abdul Majeed Khan (Mianwali); B Rashid Akber Niwani (Bhakkar); Ar Sajjadul Hassan (Okara); J Saima Akhter Bharwana (Jhang), Mudasser Qayyum Nahra (Gujranwala), Saeed Ahmad (Nankana Sahib) and Malik Amir Waran (Bahawalpur); R Rana Farooq Saeed (Faisalabad); Aw Nawabzada Malik Ahmad Khan (Mianwali); G Tariq Anees (Narowal).

PML-F: It got a single seat from Punjab, the MNA, Jahangeer Khan Tareen (RY Khan), belongs to Pathan clan.

Electoral results by caste
 
Yes the downfall

To put it in crux format, the downfall started with the Battle of Panipat..
That battle was the decider in the Marathas consolidating their power in North India..

Leading up to the battle, the Marathas were bloody organized, trained and technologically caught up with the earstwhile powers of the time (Read French Trained artillery and musketeers).

Their biggest mistake through this period was being ruthless in their conquest and in doing so alienating the local rulers in the north. Had the Marathas formed alliances, they would have been an unstoppable force during the period.
In fact one of the main reasons for the loss at Panipat was the lack of supplies being so far away from their home base..
lack of supplies because the locals of the northwest were alienated, especially the Rajputs. Similarly, the Sikhs sat out of the battle to take advantage of the vaccum that would be created as a result of the Battle of Panipat..

On a political front, the centralization of power under the Peshwa, one of the greatest reasons for the Maratha success was sizzling out. Power centres were being created by the Maratha generals who were getting greedy for a bigger chunk of the power pie. Even during the battle, the jealousy and mistrust between the Maratha Generals and Gardi was a major factor in the loss.

Lastly, the advent of the British in India and their clever strategy of divide and rule put the final nail in the coffin of the marathas whose leaders such as the Scindia's and Holkars were ever ready to stab each other in the back to gain power.
 

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