Ababeel SSM - Pakistan gains MIRV technology.

[Manidabest]

GREAT JOB WELL DONE PAKISTAN !!!!

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Pakistan achieved this capability couple of years back but it was revealed yesterday.
I believe it was necessary to conduct such tests (Last month Babur 3 and Yesterday Ababeel Test) due to publically existence of COLD START.

 

[Mrc]

Yeah prospects of cold start just got colder

 

[HRK]

There are rumour flyings Pakistan going to test 4000 KM Missile.

@Ghareeb_Da_Baal said news coming in media, next month new version of Shaheen- X would be tested.

@The Deterrent @HRK

can't comment but pir o mursheed na mana kiya hai 2750 is zada soochne ka liya .... "filhaal"

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Whether Pakistan has mastered MIRV technology given that it merely mentions that the missile is “capable” of being fitted with a MIRV warhead, rather than announcing that it has mastered the technology and developed MIRV payload (Miniaturized nuclear warheads for MIRVs).

Even NASR uses a miniature nuclear warhead.

 

[messiach]

Then i have to respect your opinion.
Highly precide ball-bearings for MRV prj. were developed 97-98.

What if i told you that it is started in 2007.

 

[Shaji Pappan]

Yeah prospects of cold start just got colder

Cold start is itself a deterrent..

 

[P4K1ST4N]

smoke emission from missile should be reduced because it can help detect missile path if you look at russian satan missile you will notice that it emits very less smoke after launch

@The Deterrent @JamD ....What do you say about this?

Just notice differences between Liquid and Solid Propellants. You will get the answer.

=> RS-28 Sarmat "Satan 2" or "Satan 1" is a Russian liquid-fueled Ballistic missile.

=> LGM-30 Minuteman III is American Solid-Propellant Ballistic missile with "3 warheads"

=> Now Pakistan's Ghauri family of ballistic missiles, Liquid-fueled.

=> Pakistan's Shaheen Family, Solid-propellant.

=> Finally Ababeel Family, first 2 stages Solid-propellant. (multiple warheads)

 

[Shaji Pappan]

Even NASR uses a miniature nuclear warhead.

NASR is a Tactical nuclear wepon.. How can you compare a low-yield battlefield weapons with strategic nuclear deterrent?? Here you need high yield thermonuclear miniaturized payloads..

 

[Mitro]

we don't want him to Die, we want him to rule India for another 4 years

2017 is the year of shame for Indian according to Chinese calendar omg and it just started.

 

[faithfulguy]

How many MIRV was conducted with this test. Is it certain that MIRV was tested or it only has that capability.

 

[CriticalThought]

Right. Our Indian friends are thinking extremely one-dimensional. Please consider the following points:

1. Ababeel is just a model for future SLBM. Good luck tracking launches from the middle of Indian ocean.

2. India would be committing a folly if it operates S-400 near the border. Reasons:

a. It will be the target of our anti-radiation cruise missiles.

b. It will also have its hands full taking care of Nasr.

c. By your own admission, Pakistan sends cross-border terrorists. These terrorists have successfully attacked and destroyed multiple high value Indian installations. A high value target like S-400 would attract them like bees to honey even in peace time. In war time, it would be a free for all.

So either you operate you multi-billion dollar system near the border and risk losing all that money in one big hit, or you utilize your strategic depth, in which case you will be saying hello to it during the re-entry phase.

You guys like to boast of your multi-layer ABM system, but you forget we have a multi-layer, and multi-dimensional (land, air, and sea based) missile system. The analysis I have seen so far is naïve and rather simplistic.

 

[Immanuel]

Right. Our Indian friends are thinking extremely one-dimensional. Please consider the following points:

1. Ababeel is just a model for future SLBM. Good luck tracking launches from the middle of Indian ocean.

2. India would be committing a folly if it operates S-400 near the border. Reasons:

a. It will be the target of our anti-radiation cruise missiles.

b. It will also have its hands full taking care of Nasr.

c. By your own admission, Pakistan sends cross-border terrorists. These terrorists have successfully attacked and destroyed multiple high value Indian installations. A high value target like S-400 would attract them like bees to honey even in peace time. In war time, it would be a free for all.

So either you operate you multi-billion dollar system near the border and risk losing all that money in one big hit, or you utilize your strategic depth, in which case you will be saying hello to it during the re-entry phase.

You guys like to boast of your multi-layer ABM system, but you forget we have a multi-layer, and multi-dimensional (land, air, and sea based) missile system. The analysis I have seen so far is naïve and rather simplistic.

You keep assuming that while Pak is attacking, there aren't any counter attacks. Atleast we have our own AAD/PAD, soon S-400 and others. We also have Rafales, MKI and Jag with weapons like the GBU-105 SFW smart cluster munitions. Enter Pakistani airspace is watched for day and night. what makes you think S-400 will be deployed anywhere near the border, we can stay ten of miles of away and still have almost all of Pak under a no fly zone with the S-400.

India in phase 1 will have 5 full scale regiments of S-400 with another 7 to be build in India under MII later on. Each full scale regiment can deploy well over 300 missiles not even taking into account reloads. Each regiment will have many fire units and fire units can be as far 100 km away from the regimental command.

You really think in an all out conventional war, you can match the firepower India can unleash. Forget the years past, today's war reserves are plenty and war wastage reserves are at the highest levels. With 1000 Pinaka rockets manufactured annually, over 800+ ballistic missiles produced and deployed in the last 20 years.

 

[Gufi]

The wonderful arguments here make me so happy. It is like one has one has opened a game and is sniping lone ducks in duck hunt. War is chaotic and the sky will not be clear, it will not be like some little skirmish that triggers a full ballistic missile nuclear war. Wonder what is the radars will be like after both air forces are flying, drones and helicopters are in the air, and all in all, the battlefield will be chaotic.
And I am amazed at the level of expertise needed to stop multiple cruise and ballistic missile launches on the ground or just as they are fired at probably a few minutes apart from each other, stopping them all even though the ability to track and destroy multiple targets is not going to be easy, the weapon system itself will be one of the prime target of multiple attacks, but somehow the missiles will be targeted as soon as they are launched.
Also the range for the S 400 is 230 KM for a ballistic target, and that too a target which will have some stealth features, not the missiles which the S 400 has been primed to counter. Add to that the speed which will be, for simple math, faster then a scud missile, at Mach 6(faster I know but too many arguments), will mean that the missile will be covering the 2200 KM or so in around 20 minutes, and in its trajectory it will be dividing to create more targets, but somehow the missile shield stays.
Maybe I have this all wrong, it has to do with the theory of Indian movies, a man with a Manpads will take them all out.
But it is good to have an enemy which is so sure of itself, at least we as a nation recognised the threat of the s 400 and work towards countering it.

 

[Kamran Abbasi]

abey yar gandi batain