27th February Was Only Half the Surprise Revealed !!!

[airmarshal]

What information have you revealed here @Windjammer ? Sorry. Am I missing something?

 

[Zowais]

Had it been a war (with certain political agenda/objectives) your approach would have been reasonable. You have to understand that only objective Pakistan establishment had was to deny new norm. They did it by bombing ground targets (and releasing one of videos). You have to understand that they shot down intruding jet, i am sure you must have listened to pilots later in a ceremony, when one one of them said he pushed the button as soon as IAF jet crossed the line. Shooting at IAF jet crossing line was ultimate message to their ‘new norm setting objective’. Now you say we should have shot down their jets in their air space. What for?

PS. We both wish to see Pakistan invincible. But it needs to improve itself on many fronts before achieving that strength. We have to work hard to shoot down adversary’s jets in its own air space at our will and get away with that afterwards.
Regards.

Hi,

That would have been the Israel 1967 moment for pakistan---.

Indian psyche would have been smashed to a pulp---.

Seeing their mighty SU30MKI and M2K's going down in flames against the JF17's would have run shock waves thru the enemy ranks---.

That alone would have rankled the enemy's nerves bad to the breaking point.

That would have created uncertainty---indecision---chaos---panic---you name the fear and it would have evolved in the enemy GHQ---.

It would be like a Muhammad Ali vs Sonny Liston moment---it would be like Khabib vs the Irish guy moment---a total shocker---a total disbelief---a moment when hands brains body go numb in total and utter fear---.

You would have been screaming to the world that is what will happen when you kill our 300 children going to school---.

Pakistanis are dumb fools and their military generals are on the top of the list---.

They are clueless as to what the reaction of the american and european public would be---. These dumb fools need to start approaching the american public and european public rather than building good relations with their counter parts and american senators and congress---.

Amrican public is tired of indian call center scams---. 100's and 100's of million of dollars of retired americans and europeans has been scammed by these indian goons---yet the dumb pakistani generals are clueless in how to tackle the enemy---.

The enemy has put its weaknesses on a platter for pakistan to manipulate---and all these generals are interested in getting admission for their kids in the US and green cards and residency for their families---.

 

[MastanKhan]

Had it been a war (with certain political agenda/objectives) your approach would have been reasonable. You have to understand that only objective Pakistan establishment had was to deny new norm. They did it by bombing ground targets (and releasing one of videos). You have to understand that they shot down intruding jet, i am sure you must have listened to pilots later in a ceremony, when one one of them said he pushed the button as soon as IAF jet crossed the line. Shooting at IAF jet crossing line was ultimate message to their ‘new norm setting objective’. Now you say we should have shot down their jets in their air space. What for?

PS. We both wish to see Pakistan invincible. But it needs to improve itself on many fronts before achieving that strength. We have to work hard to shoot down adversary’s jets in its own air space at our will and get away with that afterwards.
Regards.

Hi,

As it happens with pakistanis is that each and every member has to explained the issue from the start---.

India has already declared war---india is saying that we are going to strike targets inside pakistan---and that is a declaration of war---.

Now only a coward would say that it is not a declaration of war---.

My american friends were saying that it was a declaration of war---posters on foxnews cnn yahoo news were commenting that it was an act of war by india on pakistan---but pakistai generals were begging the world that it was not---.

Who gives a fck if he aircraft were intruding or not---india launched strikes---bombs were dropped in pakistan---that was war---.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

IAF was about to retaliate even for 1 or 2 of their fighters shot down but once they realize that they are winning propaganda war and the domestic audience is falling for it then they stopped.

Cuz we realesed the pilot too soon

 

[MastanKhan]

War needs one thing which was true 10,000 years ago and even today ..money..
Where was the money ..
Pakistan was at defualt ..
India mean while has 500b+ in reserves..
We lost the war before it even started ..

Hi,

The muslims were hungry---they conquered the half world---the british were begging after the 100 years war---they came and conquered hindustan---mongols were hungry---they conquered more than half the world---afghans were hungry---they came and conquered hindustan---Babur was hungry came and conquered hindustan---american immigrants were poor and hungry they came and conquered america and took it form the american indians---.

Israel was on the brink of poverty in the 1967 and 1973 war till it bought weapons and won the wars---.

Wars are fought with pre planning---the money was there after 9/11 and after the start of yemen war---.

Pakistanis are so stupid that they really believed that india would them develop economically---so that they have money to buy weapons---.

Is there any nation dumber than that---none---.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Cuz we realesed the pilot too soon

no
the reason why hey did not retaliate was cuz they started propaganda that f-16 has been shot! 1 mig lost for f-16 is a victory to indians.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

I have either removed or concealed anything that may be sensitive but even then as you can see some folks still have comprehension issues.

Some idiots do not need to have any such information.

 

[Sine Nomine]

OK. I have at least presented an analysis. Bring out your counter analysis and let the peopleon theboard decide. This " yes they did and No they did not" debate is not going to get us anywhere.
A

In following lines you quoted i summed it up,we are following policy of appeasement which only encourages an aggressor never deters it.
On lighter note our diplomatic options on IOJ&K have not worked.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Whatever is your problem with windjammer, don't dare commenting on the looks of national heroes.

first of all, kiddo i have been on this forum since longer then u, and those who know me, know i joke a lot and make fun of people....thats how we people in Northern Pakistan specially in AJK live and how it is for us! it doesnt mean im degrading someone, its just how our humor is, it maybe dark for u but thats how it, take it or leave it.
We mountain, we r Alpha Males here who r very proud of our martial backgrounds and ghairat is part and parcel of our cultures as well!

As for my comments abt windjammer, im just advocating our mutual problem with this silly secrecy around this operation, and specially abt Su30 kill and that so called diplomacy around it.

My problem is this, the same as yours! So now remove that negative rating.

Some idiots do not need to have any such information.

suna ha Navy ny Arihant b detect ki the? or wo apna signature b day gye the?

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

suna ha Navy ny Arihant b detect ki the? or wo apna signature b day gye the?

Yeah. Mir M. Ali Khan did said in the twitter

 

[PakSword]

first of all, kiddo i have been on this forum since longer then u, and those who know me, know i joke a lot and make fun of people....thats how we people in Northern Pakistan specially in AJK live and how it is for us! it doesnt mean im degrading someone, its just how our humor is, it maybe dark for u but thats how it, take it or leave it.
We mountain, we r Alpha Males here who r very proud of our martial backgrounds and ghairat is part and parcel of our cultures as well!

As for my comments abt windjammer, im just advocating our mutual problem with this silly secrecy around this operation, and specially abt Su30 kill and that so called diplomacy around it.

My problem is this, the same as yours! So now remove that negative rating.

Uncle, your silly humor has earned you 31 negative ratings before my rating.

On a serious note, I seldom give a Pakistani a negative rating.. But that comment was not appropriate.. Please amend it and I will take it back..

I know you didn't mean what you wrote, but our posts are read by our chay neighbors who don't want to let go even a small opportunity to degrade our officers.. Lets not give them fuel to laugh at us.

 

[Mentee]

@Tps43 @SIPRA es 27 no inah di phr lambh laveay?

 

[PakSword]

abay yera! tu itna defencive q rehta ha? itna darpook q ha? hum northern pakistanis tum logo k isshe darppok attitude sy tang rehty hain! isshe lea hamari or tumhari nahi lagti.....waisiy kahe tu b koi karachi ka bachungra to nai ha? wo b teri tarha sensaitive hoty hain

Main samjha samjha k thak gya hun k Sher banno Bakry na baano, tum log kya lallu panju ho sarry......mazak b bardash nai hota abb tum logo sy!

Tum log kya over sensitive darpook choty bachon ki tarha bany hoty ho? As for our enemy, **** em, unnki fakrat tery ya mery comments read kar kar k parwan nai charti, wo log hain he ghatya soch k pagan hindu log, wo apni tang nazri chupany k lea dusro sy nafrat karty hain, mery ya tery comments parh parh k nahi!

Abb tu b thora barra hoja, TT b ban gya ha! abb shabash achy bachon ki tarha wo remove kar! raha sawal meri 31 negative ratings ka, to wo deny ealy b teri tarha bachunghry the!

Negative rating nahi hataunga.. meri marzi!

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Negative rating nahi hataunga.. meri marzi!

jaisy teri marzi.

 

[PakSword]

jaisy teri marzi.

yaar 31 ratings hain mere ilawa, 32 hojaein tou koi kia ukhaar lega tera?