27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[HawkEye27]

Crap

 

[bananarepublic]

if you think every one roam around with 8k camera ? i have a bad news for you

Hey I ain't the one calling crappy video from a phone camera HD

 

[crankthatskunk]

"this video, planes chasing plane" proves nothing. "Indians response"

 

[Armchair]

Indians have their eggs in Russian basket too. India is still the second largest importer of arms from Russia.

Russian economy is struggling. Pakistan cannot be seen as an alternative in terms of economics. Until or unless Russians see value in CPEC. Our only chance.

The salaries of Indian armed forces exceed our entire defense budget. That is the scale we are talking about.

Aeromerix, this is why Pak should have held a two tier military like Israel, with a conscript force supplementing a professional force. This structural change is a must going forward, if Pak is to remain relevant vis-a-vis a large and increasingly better funded opponent.

 

[Army research]

Aeromerix, this is why Pak should have held a two tier military like Israel, with a conscript force supplementing a professional force. This structural change is a must going forward, if Pak is to remain relevant vis-a-vis a large and increasingly better funded opponent.

We can't do conscription in this country , esxpailly when we already have more volunteers than we can intake ,
What you are saying can be better translated as increasing the eastern rangers like sindh and Punjab to larger forces as the 2nd tier supplemented by other paramilitary

 

[Armchair]

We can't do conscription in this country , esxpailly when we already have more volunteers than we can intake ,
What you are saying can be better translated as increasing the eastern rangers like sindh and Punjab to larger forces as the 2nd tier supplemented by other paramilitary

No, that would cost money, a lot of money. A lot of salaries. A lot of benefits. A lot of retirements. = expensive.

Conscription is cheap. Much cheaper. Even rich countries like Israel use it effectively. 80% of Israeli forces are conscripts. I am sure they aren't stupid.

Of course, if you think Pak economy is a vibrant and growing economy that can afford a decent defence budget, continue with this colonial legacy.

 

[GiG]

End of story, Kill confirmed Pakistan shot down Indian Su-30 MKI on 27 Feb
Just look at these kill patches put on by PAF & Turkish air force fighter flyers. There is noting more official then this, that PAF officially confirming "indirectly" that on 27th Feb skirmish in kashmir region pakistan shot down indian SU-30 MKI. Only reason for not openly claiming it is probably the stake of Russians as still pakistan & PAF need to have good relations with Russian and we don't want to give them any real embarrassment that their start fighter flanker shot down by JF 17 Block II.

For people know about armed forces personal, their badges and patches they wear have some real meanings and if your friendly country armed forces personal sporting these kill patches then its some super level of trolling & humiliation which indians just cant expect. Get ready for some "bhajang" of BoycottTurkey from indian side very soon.
Lastly I must say we need to put that MI 17 helicopter kill confirmed too ....

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[ghazi52]

Indian Air Force Ouragan aircraft after being forced down by PAF fighters (Shaheens) - 1965

On Sep 3, 1965 IAF Gnat (seen in left along with F-86 Sabre) flown by Sqn Ldr Brijpal Singh Sikand surrenders to PAF’s No.9 F-104 Starfighter during an air combat. The Indian pilot landed aircraft on pasrur airfield near Gujranwala and was taken Prison Of war (POW). Later Sqn Ldr Saad Hatmi flew that captured Gnat from Pusrur to Sargodha, which is now placed in PAF museum in Karachi.

Wreckage of one of four Indian Vampire aircrafts, which were shot down by PAF Shaheens

 

[TheTallGuy]

This Gnat F1 and F-86F Sabre picture of 1965. Just put a large smile on my face!

 

[Talon]

Op Swift Retort monument

 

[TsAr]

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Is this at AHQ?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

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Nice

 

[Ali_Baba]

Should imho say, "Together we trained, Together we fought , Together we won"...

(but it nice anyhow!)

 

[SQ8]

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Now they are overdoing it

 

[Riz]

Now they are overdoing it

Why not??? They made us proud dude.. They deserved alot more then this..