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Modi is many things. He is not stupid. Many Indians including I are hoping he loses the election. But yes, pressure on him by the opposition is only going to ratchet up. In India, there is usually unity in times of such attacks across party lines. Modi broke that rule when he went to Bombay during 26/11 and deeply criticized Manmohan Singh. The shoe is now on the other foot.what do you think ? will modi get away if he didn't do anything ? will he be able to satisfy the anger of Indian public to save elections ?
Sir what I am asking is How much they came in today and in which sectorI am not at liberty to discuss operational matters, all I am permitted to say is that multiple assets were used to monitor Indian movement all across the indian peninsular.
A close ally is helping.
Don't we have SAMS? You see a plane you shoot it down. Whats good is scrambling??
A fighter can pomp in and leave within 30secondsWhy didn't shoot them? Who cares about scrambling or what, they intruded and went back unharmed, remember how they shot Pakistan Navy plane in late 90's killing many personal on board, but here we are just scrambling.
Even the short range SAM are not placed just after the fence if India just comes close to fence it would be called intrusionDon't we have SAMS? You see a plane you shoot it down. Whats good is scrambling??
I am really sorry to hear that. It's been many years, but I am sure it must have been terrible.Sure is, I said it before... I lost someone on that flight and it hurts badly. Our sovereignty is not for sale.
Mig-27 & Mig-21 in '99, plus a chopper.were you able to shoot down our mig25 back in 97?
I'm just hoping history doesn't repeat itself, I would do anything to avoid a war. Pakistan & India need more trade between each other to reduce these situations, prime example being France & Germany. Thank you for your condolences.I am really sorry to hear that. It's been many years, but I am sure it must have been terrible.
Modi is many things. He is not stupid. Many Indians including I are hoping he loses the election. But yes, pressure on him by the opposition is only going to ratchet up. In India, there is usually unity in times of such attacks across party lines. Modi broke that rule when he went to Bombay during 26/11 and deeply criticized Manmohan Singh. The shoe is now on the other foot.
The update of my previous threads:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/top-43-air-forces-based-on-plane-quality-and-quantity.357783/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/22-top-airforces-based-on-plane-quality-and-quantity.162974/
Fleet numbers are from Flight International WAF 2019.
View attachment 541764
https://www.flightglobal.com/asset/26019/waf
Air/Ground points:
F-16C = 1/1
F-16A = 0.7/0.8
F-16AM = 1/0.8
F-16A OCU = 1/0.9
F-16 block 52+ aka F-16I = 1.1/1.2
F-16 block 60 = 1.3/1.2
F-15A = 1.2/0.5
F-15C = 1.3/0.5
F-15E = 1.4/1.5
F-15S = 1.3/1.4
F-15SG = 1.5/1.5
F-18A = 1/1.1
F-18C = 1.05/1.15
F-18F = 1.3/1.3
F-2 = 1.3/1.2
F-16AM = 1/08
F-22 = 3/1
F-35A = 2.5/2.5
F-35B = 2.3/2.2
Mirage 2000 = 1/1
Typhoon (MESA radar) = 1.4/1.1
Rafale (PESA radar) = 1.3/1.2
Tornado IDS = 0.5/1.2
Tornado ADV = 1/0.6
F-4 = 0.3/0.6
F-4 Terminator = 0.6/1
Su-27 = 1.2/0.4
Su-27SM = 1.3/0.8
Su-35 = 1.4/1.2
MiG-29 = 0.9/0.5
MiG-29SMT = 1/1
Su-30MKI = 1.3/1.2
Su-30MKK = 1.2/1.2
MiG-21 aka J7 = 0.25/0.35
MiG-27 = 0.2/0.7
JF-17 = 0.9/0.8
AMX = 0.2/0.5
Mirage F.1 = 0.7/0.8
Mirage 3/5 = 0.25/0.35
Jaguar = 0.2/0.6
F-5 = 0.25/0.35
J-20 = 2.7/1
J-10 = 1/1
J-8 = 0.6/0.4
JH-7 = 0.5/1.1
Q-5 = 0.1/0.4
H-6 = 0/2
T-22M3 = 0/3
Tu-95 = 0/6
Tu-160 = 0/8
B-1B = 0/9
B-2A = 0/10
B-52H = 0/6.5
E-3, Phalcon, KJ-2000, Boeing 737 = 8/2
Saab, KJ-200 = 6/1.5
E-2C, ZDK-03 = 4/1
jet, A400 tankers = 2/6
KC-130, H-6 tankers = 1/4
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Fleet numbers:
Australia
54 F-18A
24 F-18F
6 Boeing 737 AEW&C
6 A-330 tanker
Algeria
13 MiG-25
32 MiG-29
23 Su-24
58 Su-30MKA
3 Il-78MT
Belarus
39 MiG-29
68 Su-25
Belgium
52 F-16AM
Brazil
47 F-5E
55 AMX
5 Erieye
2 KC-130H
China
235 J-10
10 J-20
99 Su-30MKK
223 Su-27 and J-11
24 Su-35
96 J-8
388 J-7 (MiG-21)
70 JH-7
118 Q-5
120 H-6 (Tu-16)
5 KJ-2000
16 KJ-200
8 IL-78 tanker
10 H-6 tanker
Chile
46 F-16A
11 F-5E
1 797 AEW
2 KC-130 tanker
6 KC-135 tanker
Canada
77 F-18A
2 A-310 tanker
4 KC-130
Denmark
44 F-16AM
Egypt
50 F-16A
168 F-16C
19 Mirage 2000
13 Alpha Jet
54 MiG-21 & J-7
75 Mirage V
7 E-2C
17 Rafale
15 MiG-29M
Finland
62 F-18C/D
1 C285 AEW
France
101 Rafale
137 Mirage 2000
4 E-3
14 KC-135
1 A330 tanker
2 A400 tanker
Germany
122 Typhoon
62 Tornado IDS
28 Tornado ECR
4 A310 tanker
2 A400 tanker
Greece
93 F-16C/D
60 F-16C block 52+
42 Mirage 2000
33 F-4E Icarus
4 Erieye
India
229 Su-30MKI
61 Mirage 2000
66 MiG-29
44 MiG-27ML
134 MiG-21Bis
160 Jaguar
3 Phalcon AEW
7 IL-78MKI
10 Tejas
Iran
24 F-14
20 MiG-29
9 Mirage F1
17 F-7
88 F-4E
47 F-5
23 Su-24
7 Boeing 707 tanker
Iraq
26 F-16IQ
25 Su-25
10 L-159
Israel
12 F-35A
25 F-15I
41 F-15 C/D
17 F-15 A/B
99 F-16I
124 F-16C/D
2 G550 AEW
9 KC-707 tankers
4 KC-130 tankers
Italy
88 Typhoon
61 Tornado IDS
14 Tornado ECR
40 AMX
4 KC-767 tankers
4 KC-130 tankers
6 F-35
2 G550 AEW
Japan
87 F-2
200 F-15C/D
72 F-4E
4 E-767 AEW
13 E-2C AEW
4 KC-767
1 KC-130
9 F-35
Jordan
44 F-16A MLU
Kazakhstan
20 Su-27
25 MiG-29
29 MiG-31
12 MiG-27
3 MiG-23
13 Su-24
14 Su-25
South Korea
59 F-15K
123 F-16C/D
44 F-16C block 52+
60 FA-50
71 F-4E
158 F-5E
4 Boeing 737 AEW
North Korea
35 Mig-29
56 Mig-23
26 MiG-21
120 F-7
97 F-6
106 F-5
80 H-5
34 Su-25
18 Su-7
Malaysia
18 Su-30MKM
13 MiG-29
8 F-18D
13 Hawk 208
4 KC-130 tanker
Netherlands
68 F-16A OCU
2 KDC-10
Norway
55 F-16AM
9 F-35
Oman
12 Typhoon
23 F-16C
10 Hawk 203
Pakistan
98 JF-17
13 F-16ADF
45 F-16A/B OCU
18 F-16C block 52+
69 Mirage III
90 Mirage V
136 F-7
4 Erieye AEW
4 ZDK-03 AEW
3 Il-76 tanker
Peru
19 MiG-29
9 Mirage 2000
18 Su-25
24 A-37
Poland
48 F-16C block 52+
31 MiG-29
32 Su-22
Russia
60 MiG-31
109 MiG-31BM
65 Su-27
68 Su-27SM
126 Su-30
75 MiG-29
50 MiG-29SMT
110 Su-24
112 Su-34
195 Su-25
59 Tu-22M3
62 Tu-95
16 Tu-160
10 A-50 AEW
19 Il-78 tanker
78 Su-35
Saudi Arabia
72 Typhoon
78 F-15C/D
70 F-15S
24 F-15SA
81 Tornado IDS
2 Saab 2000 AEW
5 E-3 AEW
7 707 tanker
6 A330 tanker
9 KC-130 tanker
Singapore
40 F-15SG
40 F-16C
20 F-16C block 52+
1 A330 tanker
4 G550 AEW
4 KC-135 tanker
5 KC-130 tanker
Sweden
95 Gripen
2 Saab 340 AEW
1 KC-130 tanker
Switzerland
30 F/A-18C
36 F-5E
Spain
64 Typhoon
72 F-18A
1 A400 tanker
5 KC-130 tanker
Syria
20 MiG-29
2 MiG-25
87 MiG-23
51 MiG-21
40 Su-22
20 Su-24
Taiwan
55 Mirage 2000
140 F-16AM
128 F-CK-1
25 F-5E
6 E-2C
Thailand
11 JAS 39
14 F-16ADF
39 F-16A OCU
34 F-5
18 Alpha Jet
2 Saab 340 AEW
Turkey
211 F-16 C/D
34 F-16 block 50+
49 F-4 Terminator 2020
4 Boeing 737 AEW
7 KC-135 tanker
UAE
77 F-16E
57 Mirage 2000
2 Saab 340
3 A-330 tanker
UK
117 Typhoon
21 Tornado GR4
6 E-3 AEW
9 A330 tanker
12 F-35B
USA
287 A-10
30 AC-130J/U
59 B-1B
19 B-2A
74 B-52H
239 F-15C
219 F-15E
940 F-16C
178 F-22
31 E-3
398 KC-135
59 KDC-10
65 MC-130
46 F-35A
Ukraine
21 MiG-29
24 Su-27
12 Su-24
13 Su-25
Uzbekistan
30 Su-27
39 MiG-29
20 Su-25
Vietnam
35 Su-30
11 Su-27
35 Su-22
Venezuela
23 Su-30MK
16 F-16A
1 707 tanker
================================================
Final points:
1) USA - 13217
2) Russia - 3596
3) China - 3233
4) India - 1677
5) Saudi Arabia - 1390
6) Japan - 1340
7) Israel - 1298
8) South Korea - 1190
9) Turkey - 1051
10) France - 1037
11) Taiwan - 979
12) Pakistan - 872
13) Egypt - 862
14) UK - 782
15) Germany - 735
16) Greece - 726
17) Italy - 698
18) UAE - 521
19) Singapore - 520
20) Spain - 513
21) Australia - 429
22) North Korea - 378
23) Algeria - 374
24) Iran - 366
25) Sweden - 309
26) Canada - 283
27) Syria - 279
28) Poland - 251
29) Thailand - 247
30) Norway - 227
31) Kazakhstan - 223
32) Netherlands - 217
33) Finland - 215
34) Uzbekistan 192
35) Chile -189
36) Vietnam - 185
37) Brazil - 169
38) Malaysia - 155
39) Belarus - 151
40) Belgium - 146
41) Ukraine - 142
42) Switzerland 141
43) Jordan - 128
44) Venezuela - 128
45) Denmark -128
46) Oman - 121
47) Iraq - 97
48) Peru - 92
Even I hope there is no war. Lives lost on either side would be terrible. I know Pak can't hand over guys like Jaish and LeT to India because they were once strategic assets. I just wish they would prosecute them though on their own soil. They can't poosibly good for Pak itself and for its image.I'm just hoping history doesn't repeat itself, I would do anything to avoid a war. Pakistan & India need more trade between each other to reduce these situations, prime example being France & Germany. Thank you for your condolences.
Both of you bring your keyboards to the fight.oh yeah yeah, I too have beaten four of your guys when i was in kuwait and till the time i lived there the entire chota pakistan locality lived in fear. maybe we can meet someday for a duel.
Both of you acting childish.oh yeah yeah, I too have beaten four of your guys when i was in kuwait and till the time i lived there the entire chota pakistan locality lived in fear. maybe we can meet someday for a duel.