27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Windjammer]

Any source from outside of south asia where they directly state the point rather than repeating it in second hand.

A report from either the US or the EU would be ideal.

Just realized your former username so i guess i will leave you at it.

 

[Beast]

No proof that a Flanker was shot down

But we can comfirmed a Mig-21 of IAF was shot down while not a single plane from PAF was lost. Will that tells u something?

 

[gangsta_rap]

But we can comfirmed a Mig-21 of IAF was shot down while not a single plane from PAF was lost. Will that tells u something?

A mig-21 was shot down by an F-16 without any losses. Nobody outside of India disputes that and naturally India will try to contest it to save face.

I do have a problem with Pakistanis who accept certain points without asking themselves as to where the basis and truth to it all really is.

 

[raja786]

I went through the first 250-300 minutes ages once some weeks ago, it was really tiring to see more than a 100 pages just on 26 feb, let alone 27. And man o man, everyone was so pissed off, then came 27, and then suddenly everyone got confused, enjoyed, mixed news coming from everyone. That really was a day !!!

26th February that day was hard and tuff and some senior members really destroyed Moral of the forum, dont want to name them but they are loose guns. On 27th they had no face left to show up, I was down on 26th called my dad and asked him what's going on and his reply was putter just watch the show they just started something they will regret. And Alhumdulilla his words came true. 27th Feb is day of relief a day of courage. May Allah protect my Jwans and country .Ameen.

 

[MastanKhan]

su30 reporting bingo on fuel and m2k going for repairs I have lost respect for IAF

Hi,

Don't blame those poor pilots---. They had kids and families waiting back home for them---.

They did not want to fight a war for a psycho prime minister---.

Outstanding is the first word that comes to the mind and lips, on how PAF performed.

Hi,

Indeed---yes---. And outrageous would have been the word if there were 6 or 7 more enemy aircraft burning on the ground---.

The US even ready to offer the best F-16 version out there for India but rejected. I don't think F-16 nor the link-16 is so great that the India will reject it. It's no secret, Israel or Europe arm dealer are more willing to share more secret with India due to their deep pockets. India shall have done enough homework from those arm supplier. Think about it. What other key arm products that India can't access makes the difference?

Chinese are unlike American who has no reservation about boasting and bragging. They prefer to continue keep the element of surprised. What I want to say is the key different between IAF and PAF are the JF-17 and ZDK-03 AWACS. Other than that, most of what PAF has in their sleeves are no secret as more advance Israel F-16 version has long study by Indians. So can be say about Saab-2000 which is exported to many countries.

Hi,

India knows how capable US equipment it---. The reason they won't buy american fighter is then controlk the US will have on them---.

The US fckd up longtime ago by declaring about the 'kill switches' on the aircraft---.

 

[blain2]

The less said the better. Members should always be responsible. Discretion is a virtue ;-)

 

[Beast]

Hi,

India knows how capable US equipment it---. The reason they won't buy american fighter is then controlk the US will have on them---.

The US fckd up longtime ago by declaring about the 'kill switches' on the aircraft---.

Indian used it to attack Pakistan. I dont think US got any issue. You are thinking into too much. India now is virtually inside the western camp. If Indian can buy CJ-130, C-17, P-8 and Apache. I dont think they will care so much about the kill switch in F-16I. Fact is India is not so impressed with F-16I despite being the most advance version of F-16 offer to them.

Key in 27th Feb 2019 air battle do not lies with F-16 nor Aim-120c missile or Su-30KMI. But the ECM and info feed behind the background.

 

[MastanKhan]

Indian used it to attack Pakistan. I dont think US got any issue. You are thinking into too much. India now is virtually inside the western camp. If Indian can buy CJ-130, C-17, P-8 and Apache. I dont think they will care so much about the kill switch in F-16I. Fact is India is not so impressed with F-16I despite being the most advance version of F-16 offer to them.

Key in 27th Feb 2019 air battle do not lies with F-16 nor Aim-120c missile or Su-30KMI. But the ECM and info feed behind the background.

Hi,

They are just mules---.

 

[ShaikhKamal]

I will second that "No proof that a Flanker was shot down". Self delusion is bad for anyone.

 

[Beast]

Hi,

They are just mules---.

Apache can be disable by kill switch but Indian still buys.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Indian used it to attack Pakistan. I dont think US got any issue. You are thinking into too much. India now is virtually inside the western camp. If Indian can buy CJ-130, C-17, P-8 and Apache. I dont think they will care so much about the kill switch in F-16I. Fact is India is not so impressed with F-16I despite being the most advance version of F-16 offer to them.

Key in 27th Feb 2019 air battle do not lies with F-16 nor Aim-120c missile or Su-30KMI. But the ECM and info feed behind the background.

India is just playing games with 126 MRCA... They are just preventing Pakistan from purchasing a western platform and to do that they want to keep all western market chase after them.. the reason why they chose rafael is because Pakistan got very close deal with france for JF-17 block and possibly Rafael as well.
F-16 72 is just as good as Rafael.

 

[Beast]

India is just playing games with 126 MRCA... They are just preventing Pakistan from purchasing a western platform and to do that they want to keep all western market chase after them.. the reason why they chose rafael is because Pakistan got very close deal with france for JF-17 block and possibly Rafael as well.
F-16 72 is just as good as Rafael.

The deal for Thales of JF-17 will never materialized. If by your logic, PA shall have get the cobras or Blk 70 since IAF decide to go for rafale?

And IAF has never shown any interest in F-16 blk 70 while its Lockheed keep pushing the deal of Made in India to make Indian sign it.

 

[khanasifm]

One chin station confirmedView attachment 609751

 

[Thorough Pro]

Only because the pilot had to "go" and he was not packing any diapers that day

At least one MKI departed the scene at supersonic speed.

how many neutral sources did india allowed in?

No neutral source that can verify or confirm this claim. If there were one it would certainly strengthen the argument but that's not the case now is it?

 

[Myth_buster_1]

The deal for Thales of JF-17 will never materialized. If by your logic, PA shall have get the cobras or Blk 70 since IAF decide to go for rafale?

And IAF has never shown any interest in F-16 blk 70 while its Lockheed keep pushing the deal of Made in India to make Indian sign it.

I dont know if you ever came across many of my posts where i have said Pakistan will never get anything big from west as long as India is their big economic partner. So had India gone for F-16 and since France is all about money, pakistan would had a chance to get Rafael. Rafael deal was more of a strategic move to isolate Pakistan from western market then anything else.
Now mark my words, India will never buy 126 mrca from west and at most they might add another batch of rafael and thats it... until 5th generation option becomes available India will not add another platform.