27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[z9-ec]

It doesn't work that way. You don't call escorts for a strike mission "a secondary defensive package" for whatever. Escorts are part of the group which has set out on that strike mission. without them the mission would not have been given the go ahead in the first place. no idiot plans a strike mission without escorts into a hot enemy territory swarming with CAP fighters and interceptors ready on the tarmac. when someone questions you whether f-16 were part of the mission, the answer is yes, not a no!

Let me guess, you are a better informed than our armed forces?

I know what are CAP missions. The entire mission was network centric engagement NOT like in the early 90s.

In conclusion, I know what I'm talking about. Regardless, the AIM-120C5 shown is NOT part of PAF inventory. Period.

 

[SrNair]

Tri Services Chief press conference cleared everything .
F16 used .Pakistan has American supplied F 16 and Jordan used F 16,If I am not wrong .
Whatever lie Pakistan saying about AIM can solve there.Mig 21 shot down F 16 and the same Mig 21 destroyed later.

Once Mig 21 replaced by LCA ,our pilots will perform even better .

 

[El Sidd]

Tri Services Chief press conference cleared everything .
F16 used .Pakistan has American supplied F 16 and Jordan used F 16,If I am not wrong .
Whatever lie Pakistan saying about AIM can solve there.Mig 21 shot down F 16 and the same Mig 21 destroyed later.

Once Mig 21 replaced by LCA ,our pilots will perform even better .

why not just say Tejas did it and MiG had technical issues and Crash landed.

so much winning.

 

[z9-ec]

Tri Services Chief press conference cleared everything .
F16 used .Pakistan has American supplied F 16 and Jordan used F 16,If I am not wrong .
Whatever lie Pakistan saying about AIM can solve there.Mig 21 shot down F 16 and the same Mig 21 destroyed later.

Once Mig 21 replaced by LCA ,our pilots will perform even better .

Yeah right. Your Chiefs have repeatedly lied over and over. With complete utter BS.

We on the other hand have given proof, pictures and HD videos on a platter. Also, you forgot the best part OUR TROPHY an Indian POW and your own air chief admitting air strikes on your front line Indian bases.

 

[SrNair]

Yeah right. Your Chiefs have repeatedly lied over and over. With complete utter BS.

We on the other hand have given proof, pictures and HD videos on a platter. Also, you forgot the best part OUR TROPHY an Indian POW and your own air chief admitting air strikes on your front line air bases.

Remember this ,
We have violated your airspace ,went inside 80 km to KPK completed the mission and went back .
We thought your Radar system was better
First your military denied and later forced to accept and told they will invite international journalist .
Our side press conference was always clear .
Yesterday ,first it was 3 pilots and 2 fighters,then 2 fighters and 2 pilot .
Now one a Commander that didnt care about his life .

Even after we violated your airspace
No other nations said that India violated Pak Sovreignity not even you friend China .

And majority of them including US support us .OIC didnt even care Pak words .
World only hears India ,so who is lying ?

We can also take a lots of PoW if we want because you are next to our door.

Like our PM said again today .Pilot Project was success we need real one now .

why not just say Tejas did it and MiG had technical issues and Crash landed.

so much winning.

Because we are not mastered in lie like you .
If there is a destruction in aerial engagement we will inform same

 

[z9-ec]

Remember this ,
We have violated your airspace ,went inside 80 km to KPK completed the mission and went back .
We thought your Radar system was better
First your military denied and later forced to accept and told they will invite international journalist .
Our side press conference was always clear .
Yesterday ,first it was 3 pilots and 2 fighters,then 2 fighters and 2 pilot .
Now one a Commander that didnt care about his life .

Even after we violated your airspace
No other nations said that India violated Pak Sovreignity not even you friend China .

And majority of them including US support us .OIC didnt even care Pak words .
World only hears India ,so who is lying ?

We can also take a lots of PoW if we want because you are next to our door.

Like our PM said again today .Pilot Project was success we need real one now .



Because we are not mastered in lie like you .
If there is a destruction in aerial engagement we will inform same

Here's your answer:

INDIAN WING COMMANDER POW.

 

[Riaz Hussain]

Let me guess, you are a better informed than our armed forces?

I know what are CAP missions. The entire mission was network centric engagement NOT like in the early 90s.

In conclusion, I know what I'm talking about. Regardless, the AIM-120C5 shown is NOT part of PAF inventory. Period.

There is no "network centric engagement". Until the enemy airforce is neutralized and total air superiority is brought about in the theater, there will always be escorts and wild weasels. that's a standard everywhere. you dont send your boys into a snake pit hoping some cap fighters are out there and they will abandon their patrol route for this strike mission's escort. that's silly and stupid.
all he had to say was "no comment" or "its confidential" or anything which doesn't come back to haunt us.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

Tri Services Chief press conference cleared everything .
F16 used .Pakistan has American supplied F 16 and Jordan used F 16,If I am not wrong .
Whatever lie Pakistan saying about AIM can solve there.Mig 21 shot down F 16 and the same Mig 21 destroyed later.

Once Mig 21 replaced by LCA ,our pilots will perform even better .

If we are to even believe your claim of amraam, it only proves the use of F16 at a certain time and not the loss of one - for the loss you need substantial evidence that you haven’t produced. An urdu idiom comes to mind “dum ka baal sa haathi banana” which literally translates to “to make an elephant from its tail’s hair”

Now about the use of F16s, if we take DG ISPRs statement he said F16s were not used in the specific offensive, so the AMRAAMM use either makes that DG ISPR calcification false if used in the offense OR that the F16s were used in some other scenario and not in that specific offensive assault accross LOC. Maybe DG ISPR just wanted to state the later case, that F16s were not used in an aggressive manner against India accross LOC to avoid an issue with US for spare supply and any potential future deals.

Anyway none of your arguments and evidences provided so far proves the loss. I am quite sure we can do a simple count of F16s once the situation cools down, and you are a secular democracy so I dare you to do the same in India. F16s are ITAR controlled US equipment, and the US govt and Lockheed Martin will definitely like to know whether we have all the equipment with us or not (ie not supplied to China for reverse engineering) so there is no hiding of an F16 loss for PAF my friend.

 

[z9-ec]

There is no "network centric engagement". Until the enemy airforce is neutralized and total air superiority is brought about in the theater, there will always be escorts and wild weasels. that's a standard everywhere. you dont send your boys into a snake pit hoping some cap fighters are out there and they will abandon their patrol route for this strike mission's escort. that's silly and stupid.
all he had to say was "no comment" or "its confidential" or anything which doesn't come back to haunt us.

Here's your reply:

As posted by fellow member on another thread.

Again, the AIM-120C5 shown IS NOT part of PAF inventory.

 

[SrNair]

Here's your answer:

INDIAN WING COMMANDER POW.

Yup .We knows .
That is what a brave officer will do .
He shot down one of your F 16 and he was captured because of his bravery.

And everyone knows Geneva Conventiin can apply only during War time .
There was no war but released within one day .
Even I am amazed about Indias capability now .
That much influence and power we have now

 

[Areesh]

He shot down one of your F 16

No he didn't

 

[z9-ec]

Yup .We knows .
That is what a brave officer will do .
He shot down one of your F 16 and he was captured because of his bravery.

And everyone knows Geneva Conventiin can apply only during War time .
There was no war but released within one day .
Even I am amazed about Indias capability now .
That much influence and power we have now

PROVE IT! where's your chief with EVIDENCE?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yup .We knows .
That is what a brave officer will do .
He shot down one of your F 16 and he was captured because of his bravery.

And everyone knows Geneva Conventiin can apply only during War time .
There was no war but released within one day .
Even I am amazed about Indias capability now .
That much influence and power we have now

Evidence of the F-16 being shot down? IF what you say is true, remember to post the links here.

 

[Avicenna]

Yup .We knows .
That is what a brave officer will do .
He shot down one of your F 16 and he was captured because of his bravery.

And everyone knows Geneva Conventiin can apply only during War time .
There was no war but released within one day .
Even I am amazed about Indias capability now .
That much influence and power we have now

Why are Indians being so delusional?

Your news media is a joke!

And so was your last post!

 

[Riaz Hussain]

Tri Services Chief press conference cleared everything .
F16 used .Pakistan has American supplied F 16 and Jordan used F 16,If I am not wrong .
Whatever lie Pakistan saying about AIM can solve there.Mig 21 shot down F 16 and the same Mig 21 destroyed later.

Once Mig 21 replaced by LCA ,our pilots will perform even better .

no they didn't. all you provided is proof of an amraam, which in the best case scenario for you, proves paf lied of not using f-16s. your service chiefs are further extrapolating that by implying since paf lied it must because they dont want to admit losing an aircraft, but let me remind you the falcons come with heavy strings attached, and not to mention the amraams, which states that we cannot use them without approval from the U.S. So the lie was told because telling the truth would mean breaking the agreement and that's not a good thing.