27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[YeBeWarned]

International pressure would already be piled up on Pakistan by tomorrow or a day after, not to act drastically. The best time for Pakistan to take revenge is already gone.

why ? wouldn't it be Pakistan right to respond ? and our Army and Top Govt Officials already said about a retaliatory strike if there is any Pressure it would have come by now, some Threats from US of sanctions or EU . So far nothing ,as i said India did whatever they could, now its on Pakistan , doing nothing will be far worse for Pakistan hence Pakistan should do something and get some angry western countries, if we can handle sanctions in Past, now we are in much better position to handle them .

 

[ghazi52]

Former director of ‘Sector for Air Power Studies’ Air Commodore Jamal Hussain stressed that if the IAF used Mirage 2000s then they intended to attack. “Mirage 2000 is not used to check response time. They certainly intended to carry out a surgical strike.”

Gul added that the area IAF claims to have targeted was difficult to distinguish. “A Mirage 2000 travels at around 1,680 miles/hour – at this speed, the fighter jet can easily cross into another country’s airspace.”

Observing that the images from the site issued by the ISPR did not show remnants of an explosion, Hussain suggested the possibility that the bomb may have ‘malfunctioned’ or the IAF pilot “may have forgotten to turn off the safety switch before unloading it.”

 

[QasimTraveler]

An interesting point of view.

 

[ghazi52]

Both Pakistan and India have strong air defence. “The two sides are able to carry out swift surprise air raids within 30 kilometres of the border without being intercepted by the adversary’s fighters that are on ground alert,” he said.

“The misconception about immediate response has to be demystified. A fighter jet flies at the speed of 1000s of kilometres per hour – it can reach the target area within minutes. The response time for a fighter jet to reach incursion site varies from at least five to 10 minutes.”

“It is impossible to counter the attack, however, we can retaliate,” he explained. “Be it Pakistan, India or even the United States – no country can have fighter aircraft on watch 24/7. It is too costly.”

As India faces doubts over the accuracy of its claims due to the failure of credible evidence, Gul suggested Pakistan armed forces take the initiative by allowing foreign and local media access to the site.

“A tour of the site to inspect the damage caused and the debris left behind by the IAF can help dismiss the Indian narrative.”

 

[VCheng]

Supporting 'terrorists' is not a capability but matter of policy. Please try to differantiate between policy and capability. Two examples here for you -

• supporting Afghan Mujihadeen/Kashmiri Mujihadeen ~ Policy
• being able to deploy carrier groups or satellite surveilance ~ Capability

Okay then: ".... pretending to have US capabilities or follow similar policies .... "

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Observing that the images from the site issued by the ISPR did not show remnants of an explosion, Hussain suggested the possibility that the bomb may have ‘malfunctioned’ or the IAF pilot “may have forgotten to turn off the safety switch before unloading it.”

The plot thickens.

Hasty withdrawal it is.

 

[Hareeb]

The place where the load actually fell.

https://www.facebook.com/

 

[VCheng]

International pressure would already be piled up on Pakistan by tomorrow or a day after, not to act drastically. The best time for Pakistan to take revenge is already gone.

As I have said, both sides will see the wisdom in de-escalation.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

The place where the load actually fell.

https://www.facebook.com/

This place is Balakot ?? 50 Km from Indian border? If that's so where was our F-Sola and Thunders? Where were our air defence??

 

[scorpionx]

why ? wouldn't it be Pakistan right to respond ? and our Army and Top Govt Officials already said about a retaliatory strike if there is any Pressure it would have come by now, some Threats from US of sanctions or EU . So far nothing ,as i said India did whatever they could, now its on Pakistan , doing nothing will be far worse for Pakistan hence Pakistan should do something and get some angry western countries, if we can handle sanctions in Past, now we are in much better position to handle them .

I know, Pakistani civilian and military elite are under pressure to retaliate. Lets see how they handle it.

 

[Arsalan 345]

very interesting updates here.
https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff

 

[Indus Pakistan]

But as you said, attacking deep inside Indian territory with missiles is a clear call for war.

As long as it is 'proportionate' to Indian action it would be 'riposte' not war.

Can Pakistan afford for a full fledged war today? Given its financial precariousness and poor state its navy and airforce are in? Otoh, India would fully capitalize the situation and make Pakistan look like an aggressor state.

It would be a reaction to Indian action by IAF so how can that be counted as 'aggression'. The aggressor state is India as it already intruded into Pakistani airspace.

As regards affordiability India/Pak wars won't last longer then 14 days before either going nuclear to ceasfire. Pakistan can afford that. However I was thinking the smarter thing by PM IK might be to contact western capitals, exercise restraint, earn respect as a statesman and then use that for bargaining for improved economic oportunities with those countries.

Meantime kick the 'revenge' can down the road with ISI who can give another Pulwama to India at a later date.

 

[Devil Soul]

26/02/2019 2:13 PM IST | Updated 5 hours ago
Balakot: Govt Leaves It To Friendly Media To Provide Strike Details
Journalists are letting the government gain political points for the strike without taking responsibility for information put out on the government's behalf.

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  By Aman Sethi

PRAKASH SINGH VIA GETTY IMAGES


NEW DELHI — When Indian Foreign Secretary Vijay Keshav Gokhale read out a prepared statement on what he described as an “intelligence-led”, “pre-emptive”, “non-military” strike on Pakistani soil, he made clear he wouldn’t be taking in questions.

So no clarification on which “Balakot” this was — the one deep in Pakistani territory, or the one just across the border in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir?

No opportunity to ask questions like:

What were the estimated casualties on the ground?

What was the basis of these casualty estimates?

What was the nature of the intelligence that made this strike essential?

If we have such great intelligence, why didn’t we see the Pulwama attack coming?

Is bringing the sub-continent to the brink of all-out war, really the best possible response to the Pulwama attack?

The government’s reticence is understandable. No government likes to share details, particularly about a sensitive cross-border operation against a nuclear-armed neighbour.


https://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry...de-strike-details_in_5c74f233e4b03a10c23114bc

 

[YeBeWarned]

I know, Pakistani civilian and military elite are under pressure to retaliate. Lets see how they handle it.

exactly my point , i think IAF did mishandle the situation , they should not have done it , thing will get worse from now on .

 

[Winchester]

With three hostile neighbours, not acting now will have tremendous existential ramifications for the future of the Pakistani state. This cannot be stressed enough.