25 top submarine fleets based on quality and quantity

[Neptune]

@500 we might have to count one out from TNF. one of the Type 209/1200s have been decommissioned from active duty.

 

[truthseeker2010]

OK I converted both air defence and submarine to 1000 points each and then made an average. Here the results (air defence/submarine points):

1. USA - 1000 (1000/1000)
2. Russia - 323 (96/550)
3. China - 264 (178/350)
4. Japan - 131 (108/153)
5. UK - 89 (67/111)
6. S.Korea - 72 (83/61)
7. India - 70 (59/80)
8. France - 56 (37/75)
9. Italy - 53 (79/27)
10. Turkey - 54 (48/60)
11. Australia - 48 (60/36)
12. Canada - 48 (73/24)
13. Germany - 43 (56/30)
14. Spain - 42 (74/10)
15. Singapore - 38 (54/22)
16. Taiwan - 38 (65/11)
17. Greece - 33 (35/31)
18. Netherlands - 32 (40/24)
19. Norway - 25 (23/27)
20. Denmark - 22 (44/0)
21. Brazil - 21 (16/25)
22. Pakistan - 18 (15/22)

It does not include aircraft carriers (countries in bold) and SSBN, ASW, attack missile crafts..

Data is not updated since last year.

that's more of a relative to usa, standing of different navies.... rather than independent as you did in air forces.

 

[As is - where is]

Why does the Greek submarine fleet have 63 points? Three 209-110 subs (18 points) and four 209-1200 subs (including an AIP-equipped one, 28 points) as well as a class 214 sub (14 points). That makes for a total of 60 points. So Greece shares the same score as Germany and is in place 11 and 12. In the first six months of 2015 we'll have commissioned our second 214 submarine that is undergoing sea trials now. So expect that score to rose to 74, placing Greece on the 10th place, right behind Turkey. As long as no major submarine purchases from submarine fleets similar in power to the Greek one happen that would change that.

 

[500]

Why does the Greek submarine fleet have 63 points? Three 209-110 subs (18 points) and four 209-1200 subs (including an AIP-equipped one, 28 points) as well as a class 214 sub (14 points).

+ 3 points for AIP.

Lets add SSBN to the list:

USA

14 Ohio

Russia

3 Borei
1 Typhoon
5 Delta IV
2 Delta III

China

5 Type 094
1 Type 092

UK

4 Vanguard

France

4 Triumphant

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Ohio, Typhoon, Borei = 40 points
Vanguard, Triumphant = 35 points
Delta IV = 30 points
094, Delta III = 25 points
092 = 20 points

SSBN points:

USA - 560
Russia - 360
China - 145
UK - 140
France - 140

Total submarine with SSBN:

1 USA - 2590 (plus 1 Virginia minus 1 LA)
2 Russia - 1472
3 China - 853
4 UK - 364
5 France - 292
6 Japan - 218
7 India - 162
8 South Korea - 123
9 Turkey - 115 (minus 1 209-1200)
10 Australia - 72
11 Greece - 63
12 Germany - 60
13 Sweden - 56
14 Italy - 54
15 Norway - 54
16 Israel - 51 (plus 1 Dolphin AIP)
17 Brazil - 50
18 Canada - 48
19 Netherlands - 48
20 Algeria - 44
21 Pakistan - 44
22 Peru - 40
23 Argentine - 36
24 Vietnam - 36 (3 Imr Kilo)
25 Iran - 33
26 South Africa - 33

 

[Speeder 2]

+ 3 points for AIP.

Lets add SSBN to the list:

USA

14 Ohio

Russia

3 Borei
1 Typhoon
5 Delta IV
2 Delta III

China

5 Type 094
1 Type 092

UK

4 Vanguard

France

4 Triumphant

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Ohio, Typhoon, Borei = 40 points
Vanguard, Triumphant = 35 points
Delta IV = 30 points
094, Delta III = 25 points
092 = 20 points

SSBN points:

USA - 560
Russia - 360
China - 145
UK - 140
France - 140

Total submarine with SSBN:

1 USA - 2590 (plus 1 Virginia minus 1 LA)
2 Russia - 1472
3 China - 853
4 UK - 364
5 France - 292
6 Japan - 218
7 India - 162
8 South Korea - 123
9 Turkey - 115 (minus 1 209-1200)
10 Australia - 72
11 Greece - 63
12 Germany - 60
13 Sweden - 56
14 Italy - 54
15 Norway - 54
16 Israel - 51 (plus 1 Dolphin AIP)
17 Brazil - 50
18 Canada - 48
19 Netherlands - 48
20 Algeria - 44
21 Pakistan - 44
22 Peru - 40
23 Argentine - 36
24 Vietnam - 36 (3 Imr Kilo)
25 Iran - 33
26 South Africa - 33

It is so unfair that India should score much higher, because its leased subs( despite being missiless - Ruskies don't want to lease them ) are proven times and again being amphibious and being able to take on a German containership! Think hard about that! Wouldn't those score more points in your system?

 

[acetophenol]

It is so unfair that India should score much higher, because its leased subs( despite being missiless - Ruskies don't want to lease them ) are proven times and again being amphibious and being able to take on a German containership! Think hard about that! Wouldn't those score more points in your system?

There are no leased "subs", IN has leased a Akula class submarine only. Rest are owned by India. The Akulas are hunter killer nuclear submarines, and equipped with 40+ torpedoes.

 

[500]

A complete list with all 39 submarine operators, including SSBN. There are two newcomers to 25 top which I missed: North Korea and Singapore. My bad. Pakistan got little upgrade for 2 MESMA installations.

Singapore

4 Sjoormen class (6 points)
2 Vastergotland AIP class (11 points)

Malaysia

2 Scorpene class

Indonesia

2 209-1300 class

Ecuador

2 209-1300

Venezuela

2 209-1300

Colombia

2 209-1200
2 midget Type SX-506 (0.5 points)

Chile

2 209-1400

Egypt

3 Romeo

Taiwan

2 Tench (3 points)
2 Zwaarvis (10 points)

North Korea

40 Sang-O (1 point)
10 Yuno (0.5 points)
20 Romeo (2 points)

Poland

1 Kilo
4 Type 207 (5 points)

Portugal

2 Type 214

Spain

3 Agosta 70

Pakistan

2 Agosta 90 AIP (12 points)
1 Agosta 90
2 Agosta 70

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Complete list with SSBN:

1 USA - 2590
2 Russia - 1472
3 China - 853
4 UK - 364
5 France - 292
6 Japan - 218
7 India - 162
8 South Korea - 123
9 Turkey - 115
10 North Korea - 85
11 Australia - 72
12 Greece - 63
13 Germany - 60
14 Sweden - 56
15 Italy - 54
16 Norway - 54
17 Israel - 51
18 Brazil - 50
19 Canada - 48
20 Netherlands - 48
21 Pakistan - 48
22 Singapore - 46
23 Algeria - 44
24 Peru - 40
25 Argentine - 36
26 Vietnam - 36
27 Iran - 33
28 South Africa - 33
29 Poland - 30
30 Portugal - 28
31 Taiwan - 26
32 Malaysia - 24
33 Spain - 21
34 Chile - 20
35 Ecuador - 16
36 Indonesia - 16
37 Venezuela - 16
38 Colombia - 15
39 Egypt - 12

 

[PakGuns]

A complete list with all 39 submarine operators, including SSBN. There are two newcomers to 25 top which I missed: North Korea and Singapore. My bad. Pakistan got little upgrade for 2 MESMA installations.

Singapore

4 Sjoormen class (6 points)
2 Vastergotland AIP class (11 points)

Malaysia

2 Scorpene class

Indonesia

2 209-1300 class

Ecuador

2 209-1300

Venezuela

2 209-1300

Colombia

2 209-1200
2 midget Type SX-506 (0.5 points)

Chile

2 209-1400

Egypt

3 Romeo

Taiwan

2 Tench (3 points)
2 Zwaarvis (10 points)

North Korea

40 Sang-O (1 point)
10 Yuno (0.5 points)
20 Romeo (2 points)

Poland

1 Kilo
4 Type 207 (5 points)

Portugal

2 Type 214

Spain

3 Agosta 70

Pakistan

2 Agosta 90 AIP (12 points)
1 Agosta 90
2 Agosta 70

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Complete list with SSBN:

1 USA - 2590
2 Russia - 1472
3 China - 853
4 UK - 364
5 France - 292
6 Japan - 218
7 India - 162
8 South Korea - 123
9 Turkey - 115
10 North Korea - 85
11 Australia - 72
12 Greece - 63
13 Germany - 60
14 Sweden - 56
15 Italy - 54
16 Norway - 54
17 Israel - 51
18 Brazil - 50
19 Canada - 48
20 Netherlands - 48
21 Pakistan - 48
22 Singapore - 46
23 Algeria - 44
24 Peru - 40
25 Argentine - 36
26 Vietnam - 36
27 Iran - 33
28 South Africa - 33
29 Poland - 30
30 Portugal - 28
31 Taiwan - 26
32 Malaysia - 24
33 Spain - 21
34 Chile - 20
35 Ecuador - 16
36 Indonesia - 16
37 Venezuela - 16
38 Colombia - 15
39 Egypt - 12

Brilliant job @500 this is why I want Pakistan to establish diplomatic ties with Israel .....let haters hate...I 've been through your airforce thread as well.... You are doing better than experts in ranking and should be given a better rank if available on PDF....