2 Former COAS and later Presidents of Pakistan were Muhajirs still MQM goons talk crap about Army.

[Gazi]

No it does not. Cut the crap now.

My ancestors (grandparents from both sides) migrated to Pakistan from India, all of my extended family has migrated...a good deal of people I know have migrated ancestors. And I am NOT a mohajir.

6.5 million people came to Pakistan from INdia in 1947. No-one calls themselves a Mohajir.

It's only a poltical gimmick used by MQM to gain sympathy of some sorts...

In Karachi Muhajir=Urdu Speakers+Gujrati Speaking Memons+Biharis+Bangalis(Who didnt went back to Bangladesh after Fall of Dhaka like Alamgir)+Kuchi(To certain Extent)

 

[alibaz]

not many urdu speakers apply for the armed forces, how are they supposed to be recruited in considerable numbers then? but we do apply for civil service a lot, and the quota system comes in the way mostly. other then that the local body system should be given more powers.

A very good strength of urdu speaking people are serving in armed forces of Pakistan. I am for local bodies system all over the country and powers be delegated to local representatives. MPAs and MNAs must do their job i.e. legislation and they should bother about National policies and legislation only.

 

[Moon]

Ever Heard of something Called Maintenance Clown????Here is a BRIEF History for you.
http://www.dawn.com/news/881666/introspection-the-fist-of-fury
http://www.dawn.com/news/881666/introspection-the-fist-of-fury

Exactly,
Has MQM done that for It's strongholds?.
Screw the infrastructure, has MQM in its 8 years of "glory" set up a way to remove trash from its streets?. Now don't give me the provincial government BS, such things can be set up without their permission, in defence and Clifton everyday workers start cleaning the roads from early dawn, does that happen in Azizabad?. The fact is that even after nearly 70 years you call yourself a "Muhajir" and then everyday go to the streets to squeal about discrimination, MQM along with PPP has destroyed the entire Sindh and now suddenly the blame is on Punjab. There's a reason MQMers are called "zinda lashayn" even by Urdu speakers. And this is a very basic; example MQM has a huge criminal empire which well be brought down brick by brick. (P.S you need to work on your punctuation)

 

[Patriots]

And play the victim card, Muhajirs under attack by Pak army and are trending all sorts of rubbish about Pak army on twitter.

Irony isn't it ? The 2 former COAS of the So called 'Punjabi Army' were Muhajirs



The most well of Community in Pakistan are Muhajirs, represented by a terrorist organization like MQM , I feel sorry for the non MQM affiliate Muhajirs, we don't need to rub them all with the same brush just cause of 1 terrorist party MQM.

Visit Karachi and see by your own eyes "MOST WELL OFF COMMUNITY" in Pakistan ...........

 

[Humble Analyst]

There are only two ethnicity which are known for higher Literacy one is Punjabi and other is Muhajirs but Muhajirs Contributions are Unbelievably too Rare in Civil Bureaucracy, Military and other Administrative areas while Punjab's contribution in those areas are too high for their average as well. How could this be explained????We do have Quota System in Place which is only 8% for Karachi and also very well know Ayub Khan Syndrome in Military that Muhajirs are not Patriotic People just because they supported DECLARED Indian Agent Fatima Jinnah over Military Field Martial Ayub Khan in 1960s Elections.

Do not hesitate to move to Punjab

 

[Fracker]

In Karachi Muhajir=Urdu Speakers+Gujrati Speaking Memons+Biharis+Bangalis(Who didnt went back to Bangladesh after Fall of Dhaka like Alamgir)+Kuchi(To certain Extent)

So who came from those places were ahead or degraded then those who migrated to Punjab like kashmiris, east Punjabi, What is problem with them they didn't able to merge with Pakistanis, even when they all are having Pakistani Demoniacal rather then those of Gujrati, biharis bangalies etc? As per Pakistani law, there is no Mahajir democial or any such Biharis, Gujaratis or Hyderabadis... How exactly they track you guys to do discrimination. And if there is discrimination, how so many PMs, COAS, CJs were Urdu speaking?

 

[Gazi]

So who came from those places were ahead or degraded then those who migrated to Punjab like kashmiris, east Punjabi, What is problem with them they didn't able to merge with Pakistanis, even when they all are having Pakistani Demoniacal rather then those of Gujrati, biharis bangalies etc? As per Pakistani law, there is no Mahajir democial or any such Biharis, Gujaratis or Hyderabadis... How exactly they track you guys to do discrimination. And if there is discrimination, how so many PMs, COAS, CJs were Urdu speaking?

No One is degrading anyone around here. I mentioned the Word IN KARACHI for the reason because most of Kashmiri and Punjabi Muhajirs have Shifted to Punjab not Karachi and they dont Choose to be called Muhajir then its there Problem I am Accomodating the Groups that have Regional Similarities. As for Domicile they carry Urban Sindh Domicile Mostly because they are settled in Karachi Mostly and in Urban Sindh Domicile they cant get much space in Bureaucracy because only 7.6% total Seats are available to them in Bureaucracy and despite of Large numbers of Eligible Candidate they cant do much in Bureaucracy with such Numbers anyways because their Domicile cant even Earn them an Interview despite of how much Qualified and Capable they are.
Those PM, CJs and COAS Started their Career before imposition of Quota system that is before 1973 Recruits that is why were able to earn those spots now a days situation is quite different and they are now Confined to Private Sector only because most Doors to Bureaucracy has been Closed already.

Do not hesitate to move to Punjab

I Prefer to move Abroad then Punjab as if I have to relocate then why dont I relocate to better Place.

 

[Gazi]

Exactly,
Has MQM done that for It's strongholds?.
Screw the infrastructure, has MQM in its 8 years of "glory" set up a way to remove trash from its streets?. Now don't give me the provincial government BS, such things can be set up without their permission, in defence and Clifton everyday workers start cleaning the roads from early dawn, does that happen in Azizabad?. The fact is that even after nearly 70 years you call yourself a "Muhajir" and then everyday go to the streets to squeal about discrimination, MQM along with PPP has destroyed the entire Sindh and now suddenly the blame is on Punjab. There's a reason MQMers are called "zinda lashayn" even by Urdu speakers. And this is a very basic; example MQM has a huge criminal empire which well be brought down brick by brick. (P.S you need to work on your punctuation)

Do you know what is Signal Free Corridor1-4, K3, CDGK, Northern Bypass(Lyari Express Way), Parking Plaza, CNG Green Buses???If you dont then RESEARCH on them first you would find your Answer during those research. Now Spare me because I am Busy with other SANE PDF Members and have no time for DUMB TROLL unless you have something Valuable to Contribute.

 

[Moon]

Do you know what is Signal Free Corridor1-4, K3, CDGK, Northern Bypass(Lyari Express Way), Parking Plaza, CNG Green Buses???If you dont then RESEARCH on them first you would find your Answer during those research. Now Spare me because I am Busy with other SANE PDF Members and have no time for DUMB TROLL unless you have something Valuable to Contribute.

Didn't answer my question, stop posting irrelevant crap, a bypass doesn't clean the streets, CNG buses? Irrelevant when there is shortage of CNG in the city and MQM putting up strikes every other day, living of glory of a single man's work, who was removed because he gained too much influence. So answer ny question, why do MQM strongholds look like turds? If that's beyond your ability to answer then its wiser to apologize, but then again if I'm a "dumb troll" you're a zinda laash, can't expect logic from you.

 

[Moon]

Opening Poster,M. Saad, is a barking dog feed regularly by the Pak army.....OP...keep licking the boots of Pak army officers and wag your tail..hahaha....Pak army and the ISI has been kicked and slapped by MQM for more than 30 years now...MQM will rule Pakistan

Take a hike.

 

[Gazi]

Didn't answer my question, stop posting irrelevant crap, a bypass doesn't clean the streets, CNG buses? Irrelevant when there is shortage of CNG in the city and MQM putting up strikes every other day, living of glory of a single man's work, who was removed because he gained too much influence. So answer ny question, why do MQM strongholds look like turds? If that's beyond your ability to answer then its wiser to apologize, but then again if I'm a "dumb troll" you're a zinda laash, can't expect logic from you.

If you do some Research on my mentioned Key words you would find all the answer you need of whatever stuff you are TROLLING here. If you dont then keep TROLLING because I am more interested in Communicating with other more Well Aware and Have BETTER UNDERSTANDING in PDF then Wasting my time on a DUMBEST of Dumb TROLL like you.

 

[Fracker]

No One is degrading anyone around here. I mentioned the Word IN KARACHI for the reason because most of Kashmiri and Punjabi Muhajirs have Shifted to Punjab not Karachi and they dont Choose to be called Muhajir then its there Problem I am Accomodating the Groups that have Regional Similarities. As for Domicile they carry Urban Sindh Domicile Mostly because they are settled in Karachi Mostly and in Urban Sindh Domicile they cant get much space in Bureaucracy because only 7.6% total Seats are available to them in Bureaucracy and despite of Large numbers of Eligible Candidate they cant do much in Bureaucracy with such Numbers anyways because their Domicile cant even Earn them an Interview despite of how much Qualified and Capable they are.
Those PM, CJs and COAS Started their Career before imposition of Quota system that is before 1973 Recruits that is why were able to earn those spots now a days situation is quite different and they are now Confined to Private Sector only because most Doors to Bureaucracy has been Closed already.

That is the point, how it is Mahajir? When Karachi domicial (as per you) is discriminated. There are around 52% of Non Urdu Speaking living in Karachi. who are majority. They never complaint about Discrimination? So, your both allegations are completely wrong.

1) if Karachi domicial is a issue, then Mahajirs wouldn't be suffering alone.
2) Mahajirs are 48% while 52% are rest, they never complaint about such discrimination. Mahajir discrimination is just biased illogical approach. And MQM is playing victim cards on no basis.

And after 70 years someone calling himself Mahajir even after having nationality is stupidity. MQM Leader became Britisher only after 10 years, but his followers still after 70 years are Mahajirs rather then Pakistanis.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Going through this thread apart from individual respective opinions and what not... one thing which I want to commend @Gazi brother is his patience in replying even though the poor fellow is ganged up in more than one occasion he never loses his cool and replied to each post based on its merit.

Completely 100% Agreed

My salute to @Gazi

 

[Gazi]

That is the point, how it is Mahajir? When Karachi domicial (as per you) is discriminated. There are around 52% of Non Urdu Speaking living in Karachi. who are majority. They never complaint about Discrimination? So, your both allegations are completely wrong.

Those 52% are MARGINALIZE as well as LONG AS they have Urban Sindh Domicile otherwise they can apply using their other region Domicile and apply with Confidence. Most of them are New Comers and are mostly belongs to Most deprived Regions of Pakistan like FATA, Sareiki Areas of Punjab, Coastal Areas of Sindh and Most especially Coastal Areas of Baluchistan(People from Baluch Coastal Areas are not New Comer to the most extent though) so they have very Little Interest in Bureaucracy and EASILY fall for Popular Political Rhetorics as well. Its like why would a Pashtun Truck Driver or Tea Cafe owner Care for Earning Bureaucracy Position anyways as it is quite irrelevant for him on the first place.

Among them who are Educated tend to Live in MQM Dominated Areas and Found Supporting MQM as well for same reasons because they are also Getting Deprived as well.

1) if Karachi domicial is a issue, then Mahajirs would be suffering alone.
2) Mahajirs are 48% while 52% are rest, they never complaint about such discrimination. Mahajir discrimination is just biased illogical approach. And MQM is playing victim cards on no basis.

1. Every Karachiite with Urban Sindh Domicile is SUFFERING actually but since Muhajirs are most Qualified of them all are Suffering more heavily that is why among Karachiite Muhajirs are More Vocal on this issue.
2. For those 52% Their Standards of Education comes to play on that scenario as Bureaucracy also have ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA as well and among them those who are Relatively well educated to Fulfills Eligibility Criteria with Urban Sindh Domicile are Facing same scenario and scores of them Supports MQM for the same reasons even today.

And after 70 years someone calling himself Mahajir even after having nationality is stupidity. MQM Leader became Britisher only after 10 years, but his followers still after 70 years are Mahajirs rather then Pakistanis.

OK they should have called themselves Hindustani then how would That Sound to you then????

Buddy Like I said Muhajir is just a TERM that is use for those people who have RETAIN their Migrant Elder's native Cultures and they also have many GOOD REASONS for Retaining them as well so stop making a big deal out of it and Learn to accept that because Diversity is a biggest GIFT of Karachi City as well as Biggest CURSE. This is what makes Karachi a part from rest of Pakistan Except for Quetta because it is also very Diverse City in Pakistan as well where as all other Cities are almost HOMOGENOUS dominated by One Group of Cultures with very little TRACES of Diversity in them.

 

[Moon]

If you do some Research on my mentioned Key words you would find all the answer you need of whatever stuff you are TROLLING here. If you dont then keep TROLLING because I am more interested in Communicating with other more Well Aware and Have BETTER UNDERSTANDING in PDF then Wasting my time on a DUMBEST of Dumb TROLL like you.

Lolz didn't answer my question, kept on ranting and now I'm a dumb troll. From doubting I live in Karachi to trying to make a relation of cleanliness of streets by an overpass. If people who worship a drunkard in London are those who have a better understanding and are intelligent I can see why Muhajirs never settled in.