1971 War Veteran Lt Colonel (Retd) Derek Joseph Passes Away in Peshawar. Laid to Rest with Military Honors

[Black Tornado]

I respect this man for his service even if he’s not from my country.


Also, I am a bit disappointed by people bringing and discussing his religion here, a soldier has no religion apart from his nation.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

A great lesson: Pak is worth fighting for irrespective of your religion, race, creed etc. And, the Pak folks respect their soldiers….

 

[Reichsmarschall]

no, the brelvi woman whose tweet I posted is not Pakistan. she is follower and promoter of that langra ashiq rizvi who even declared a great soul like Ehdi a kafir.

now she is promoting his son. I keep reporting her but Twitter ignores me perhaps because of her campaign against Pakistan Army.

they also ignore her anti-minority posts perhaps because they like her make Pakistan look bad

Meanwhile this is what those pious confirm jannati Ashiqs are doing in house of God.

 

[Goenitz]

The kalimah is like a passport for entry into paradise.

Tauheed is the passport as per Islamic law and Quran.

than Islaam

every Prophet religion was Islam. A bit of commandments are different. We still follow Hz Ibrahim Sunnah of Slaughtering, Hajj, Rami, etc

Meanwhile this is what those pious confirm jannati Ashiqs are doing in house of God.

Don't mix religion/debate with followers.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Don't mix religion/debate with followers

How am I mixing the two?

 

[Goenitz]

Also, I am a bit disappointed by people bringing and discussing his religion here, a soldier has no religion apart from his nation.

If anything I consider India ahead (per capita or equal bases) that despite having such a diverse ethnic and multi-religious army, the IA have successfully made a common enemy. And the enemy is an external (Pak) despite having polarisation in streets when soldiers go back homes.

How am I mixing the two?

Like if a driver ran into an accident while driving Mercedes, can we blame Mercedes??
So 'maulvi' doing crimes in madrassa is not equivalent what Apprentice debating. He is putting references to prove a point. We have to answer by citing other references or counter argument.
Thats what I meant.

 

[Black Tornado]

If anything I consider India ahead (per capita or equal bases) that despite having such a diverse ethnic and multi-religious army, the IA have successful made a common enemy. And the enemy is an external (Pak) despite having polarisation in streets when soldiers go back homes.

Couldn’t get you mate

 

[SecularNationalist]

Now thats one handsome army officer right there.
Rest in peace Sir! . Thanks for your services to pakistan.

 

[SQ8]

If anything I consider India ahead (per capita or equal bases) that despite having such a diverse ethnic and multi-religious army, the IA have successful made a common enemy. And the enemy is an external (Pak) despite having polarisation in streets when soldiers go back homes.

Like if a driver ran into an accident while driving Mercedes, can we blame Mercedes??
So 'maulvi' doing crimes in madrassa is not equivalent what Apprentice debating. He is putting references to proof a point. We have to answer by citing other references or counter argument.
Thats what I meant.

They may be undoing some of that with their current ruling ideals.

 

[Goenitz]

@Genghis khan1 @Death Professor @Apprentice @Sainthood 101
We can discuss later in separate thread. There Dr Israr and Ghamdi Bayan where even people who live in far forests. That what will happen to them. We can discuss it later.
Let's have academic discussion there.

Couldn’t get you mate

Excuse me. I meant Both hindu/muslim are staunch followers of their religion and despite differences they fight a common enemy (mainly Pak). I mean Hindu in the IA makes sense but even Muslims fight Muslims of Pak. That is a successful injection of nationalism in the IA. Remember that company army was disciplined too but they had a mutiny.

Problem in Pak army/society is that our motto cannot be followed by non-muslims in the same light. Like if you ask a Pakistani or PA personal, he can give his life for Masgid-e-Aqsa (Palestine) due to religious reason (not political). But a non-muslim PA personal has no significance to it.

Similarly, our motoo "Faith, Taqwa, Jihad in the path of God" sounds very appealing to Muslims but felt not in the same zeal by non muslims. That is why a non Muslim cannot become COAS as he cannot consider Jihad in the same spirit.


Anyway, PA has successfully integrated all ethnicity and section of Islams as such that Pashtuns/Punjabi/Sindhi or Brelvi/Deobandi/Shia are best friends and can give life for each other.

They may be undoing some of that with their current ruling ideals.

Yup.. but the Brtish Imperial army legacy will can take more decades to fell apart under the RSS regime.

 

[Varunastra]

Quite a rarity to see a non muslim in Pak armed forces at this rank. Makes me wonder was there ever a Hindu commissioned office?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Thank you dear sir for your service. What a fantastic survey of the handsome Lt Col.
Rest in peace.

He was Armenian.

 

[SQ8]

Quite a rarity to see a non muslim in Pak armed forces at this rank. Makes me wonder was there ever a Hindu commissioned office?

There were/are Hindu commissioned officers in the Pakistani military. There was a group Capt named Johnny Khondekar in the PAF who was apparently spying for India since 1960’s basis of his family and religious affinity.

 

[Varunastra]

There were/are Hindu commissioned officers in the Pakistani military. There was a group Capt named Johnny Khondekar in the PAF who was apparently spying for India since 1960’s basis of his family and religious affinity.

Or maybe he was just framed and made an example of to prevent other Hindus from applying to the forces or think of spying. Too much of a "security risk" and distrust.
Atleast Christians are "people of the book" like few have pointed here.

 

[Trango Towers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1421384361283293187

we are kafir according to many on Twitter no matter how long we served but those with foot long beards who fight against Pakistan and those who plunder it are true momineen?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1421168977099718656

thank you!

These Muslims who speak ill of our dead Christian brothers have done NOTHING FOR PAKISTAN. So they can f off

There were/are Hindu commissioned officers in the Pakistani military. There was a group Capt named Johnny Khondekar in the PAF who was apparently spying for India since 1960’s basis of his family and religious affinity.

Islam's biggest enemy is Muslims....think on that for a bit ..