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Zia ul Haq my grandfather

A man who safed Pakistan a man who brought peace in Baluchistan a man who completed nuclear program you hate because he exposed you and Ahmedis are considered kafirs because they are kafirs

I'm sorry I can hold debates with emotionally childish molvis like you. Enjoy your ignorance.
 
A man who safed Pakistan a man who brought peace in Baluchistan a man who completed nuclear prstin you hate because he exposed you and Ahmedis are considered kafirs because they are kafirs
The problem with your kind of hatemongers is they all conveniently hide behind religion and satisfy their ego and vomit hatred so much that religion itself starts to stink
 
A man who safed Pakistan a man who brought peace in Baluchistan a man who completed nuclear program you hate because he exposed you and Ahmedis are considered kafirs because they are kafirs
Zia has done several good things no doubt about that. Even his policy of getting engaged in Afghanistan was partially right for this gave him time and money and thwart the pressure of the West to get the nuclear program completed. However, his policy of allowing madrasas to grow like mushrooms, not curbing religious extremism, trying to implement religion at the state level, and letting Afghan refugees infest the country unchecked have done huge damage to Pakistan. There are always two sides of the coin and I have yet to know a person who is completely good or completely bad.

Regarding Qaadyanis... it was Bhutto who declared them non-Muslim and not Zia, that should get cleared. There were no persecutions of Qadyanis in Zia's time and I am a personal witness to that. There were several Qadyani officers working with my father and they got promoted etc and even reached to the ranks of Director General. Zarwan, I tell you one thing. Religion is one's very personal business. It should not bother you so long a person is serving his country and doing his/her job well.
 
Zia has done several good things no doubt about that. Even his policy of getting engaged in Afghanistan was partially right for this gave him time and money and thwart the pressure of the West to get the nuclear program completed. However, his policy of allowing madrasas to grow like mushrooms, not curbing religious extremism, trying to implement religion at the state level, and letting Afghan refugees infest the country unchecked have done huge damage to Pakistan. There are always two sides of the coin and I have yet to know a person who is completely good or completely bad.

Regarding Qaadyanis... it was Bhutto who declared them non-Muslim and not Zia, that should get cleared. There were no persecutions of Qadyanis in Zia's time and I am a personal witness to that. There were several Qadyani officers working with my father and they got promoted etc and even reached to the ranks of Director General. Zarwan, I tell you one thing. Religion is one's very personal business. It should not bother you so long a person is serving his country and doing his/her job well.
No Sir Islam is not a personal matter it never was and never will be its a system that is why Abu Juhal and others opposed it
 
No Sir Islam is not a personal matter it never was and never will be its a system that is why Abu Juhal and others opposed it
After this TTP scum, we need to go after the unofficial contractors-of-the-religion aka political religious parties. Finish them off and Pakistan will be a better place to live.
 
Zia never sold Pakistan he safed it he completed nuclear program he gave good time to India

GOOD time to India LOL . He gave part of pakistan to India siachin, he sold pakistan to house of saud .which we continue to pay today,plus Americans for Afghan war. He didn't start the nuclear programme nor did he finish it. IF HIS POLICIES WAS so good wtf is his grandson doing in England.so obviously his family not living in pakistan, Karachi burns today cause of ZIA CREATION MQM,LASHKRE JHANGVI,SIPHA SAHABA.

WAHABIS LIKE THE PIG CAUSE HE GAVE THEM OPPERTUNITY TO DESTROY PAKISTAN. FEAR NOT YOU TIME HAVE COME AND GONE FUTURE FOR YOU AND LIKES IS DARK.

PLus as I said before and wil say it again. Whom ever killed him thank you.
 
Another finger pointing article from an Ex Pakistani who tries to protect his family legacy of burning this country to the ground. This country took begging foreign powers for sustenance to a whole new level. I was confused if the writer was a mard e momin or mard e momina from the picture. Had to find author's name to make sure and congratulate Zia on his wonderful accomplishment and hope he is looking down on his extended family and the legacy he left.
 
Islam, like all religions, is ONLY a personal matter, and nothing more. It must NEVER be mixed with affairs of the State.
No sir its not Islam never was or is a personal matter its a system that is why kuffar off makah went against Islam also jews
 
I'm sorry I can hold debates with emotionally childish molvis like you. Enjoy your ignorance.

You better not say anything against Zia ul Haq otherwise @Hyperion would go ape-sh*t on you ! :angry:

You don't know do you that he even named his first born son as Zia ul Haq Hyperion & his first born daughter as Zia-rina Hyperion ! :o:

And if that wasn't enough hes started a political party where the prime aim is to rename Pakistan as Zia-istan ! :pissed:

But I'm sure you - my Brother - will ensure that we make Pakistan as the Republic of Buttistan as we always dreamed of ! :smokin:
 
It was Mr. Bhutto and legislators and creators of 1973 constitution who laid the foundation of the present day religious disaster in Pakistan. Gen Zia simply built on the foundation that was provided to him by Bhutto & Co and Moudoodi. It was not Zia who banned Alcohol or declared certain groups non-Muslims. Having said that, I do hold him responsible for dragging Pakistan into the so-called Afghan Jihad (I call it fasad). If it was not for that fasad, Pakistan would be a better country. However, successive governments are as much accompliced for they literally continue disastrous policies of Gen. Zia.

However, there is another point of view to the so considered 'fasad'........and I'd rather not be speaking Russian today!
 
No sir its not Islam never was or is a personal matter its a system that is why kuffar off makah went against Islam also jews

No Sir, it is ignorant people like you who try to stuff religion "as a system" down the throats of a wider society with diversity of thought and opinion and always fail. Theocracy never works. Even in the golden days gone by, Islam only flourished when it was left as a personal matter and not adopted as state policy.
 

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