Zakir Naik: Pakistan should not have been created

[Śakra]

Give them two more generations and they won't be like what they are today..you and @SarthakGanguly are just pessimists who think they will remain "non muslim haters" .

I have no hatred. Am I wrong for saying oil and water don't mix?

 

[Mamluk]

but still we would have been powerful enough to make them suffer too. together with dalits and moaist we could have ruled on india for another thousand years.

Power comes from unity. You are making a big assumption that the Muslims would be united into a cohesive socio-political group. But that's not true. They would have been a confused lot. Some would be pan Islamist, some ethnic nationalists, and some pro-Union, etc.

Look at Muslims in India today. Even a united tight-knit community of 200 million can be very powerful. But Indian elites are smart enough to not let that happen.

 

[Basel]

Okay. No idea which province you are from but you can take all 200 million Muslims in India but as far K-Pk they can stay out. While your at it why not take in Somali Muslims, Rohinga Muslims, Chadian Muslims, Nigerian Muslims. In fact you should take in any Muslims from anywhere if your are a good Muslim 'brother'. Unless you place Indian Muslims at higher level then (are they Allah's chosen) other Muslims.

Ps. I just made a perfunctory visit but think about what I said. You either think with your secular hat or religious hat. You can't fckin choose as you wish. If you think with the Muslim hat then you should let any Muslim from anywhere on earth - all Muslims are Muslims period. You can't play the Muslim card and then just discriminate against some Muslims but favour others. All are equal in Allah's eyes. All should e equal to your charity.

It's useless to talk to small minds.

 

[MAS9]

I have no hatred. Am I wrong for saying oil and water don't mix?

Tell that to Mountbatten


Division now will help both

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Pakistan was fantasy before 1934

Actually no.

Pakistan is the latest manifestation of Islamic rule in India. Think in times of Yugas or a much bigger time frame. Whats fifty to hundred years when compared with several millennia old civilizations?

 

[Kabira]

Remat Ali was visionary, he didn't want to dump one population in another region. He proposed ideal map to divide hindus and muslims. Just divide Uttar Pradesh between hindus and muslim and population repatriation take place in same region.

Today there would have been zero hindu-muslim or ethnic animosity and we all would live like happy neighbours.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

he is right. muslims in india were left. Pakistan was broken and muslims were further divided.
If we would have been with india then we could have easily forced them to do whatever we wanted. we could have easily won elections in many indian provinces and then through their assemblies founded a new state called Pakistan with much bigger area and more provinces.
But Pakistan is what Allah wanted and it may have been for a reason.

And your province and others would have been demanding freedom..

 

[MAS9]

And your province and others would have been demanding freedom..

Divide India 2.0

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Remat Ali was visionary, he didn't want to dump one population in another region. He proposed ideal map to divide hindus and muslims. Just divide Uttar Pradesh between hindus and muslim and population repatriation take place in same region.

Today there would have been zero hindu-muslim animosity and we all would live like happy neighbours.

A proper and total exchange of Muslim and non Muslim populations can EVEN now solve our hatred to a great degree.

It should be done properly, slowly and needs proper management.

Many countries did that. Turkey and Greece come to mind. Reasonably peaceful since then. Even after centuries old conflicts.

 

[Tea addict]

I am a realist. Even an optimist.

The hatred (that is not the right word here) is rooted in faith. Greater the education, greater the 'hate'. We see that already.

Well current way of treating minority is based on a liberal model, which never works.
Look at Europe and USA , Europe is liberal and even compromising on their own value for respecting muslims and yet thousands of muslims are going to syria from Europe..
But very few or negligible if compared to USA.
Same case with india..kerala and bengal has isis radicals while states like Haryana has none.
The world need to learn not to be snowflakes.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Just divide Uttar Pradesh between hindus and muslim and population repatriation take place in same region.

That does not work. Post German partitions show that same land border drawings require ONE side to be TOTALLY defeated and destroyed. To do that you need to completely exterminate India.

 

[MAS9]

That does not work. Post German partitions show that same land border drawings require ONE side to be TOTALLY defeated and destroyed. To do that you need to completely exterminate India.

It will be our pleasure

 

[salarsikander]

Didn't realise that you speak for whole KPK by living in UK

K-Pk they can stay out

 

[Śakra]

A proper and total exchange of Muslim and non Muslim populations can EVEN now solve our hatred to a great degree.

It should be done properly, slowly and needs proper management.

Many countries did that. Turkey and Greece come to mind. Reasonably peaceful since then. Even after centuries old conflicts.

This is exactly what I'm saying.

 

[Kabira]

That does not work. Post German partitions show that same land border drawings require ONE side to be TOTALLY defeated and destroyed. To do that you need to completely exterminate India.

It will work and peacefully too. Just need to divide Indian states, ideally just give muslims some huge amount of land near coast to migrate, vacate hindus from there to areas from where muslims left. This time no facade of secularism, be clear about it. Leave IoK, Nagaland which are non-hindu states who want nothing to do with India.

After that we can all live in peace and harmony.