Yvonne Ridley says Dr Afia Siddique was gang raped by 6 US soldiers in Bagram jail

[wOnDeR-ChAp]

May be they can be honest enough to correct the title too?

My view on Dr. Afia are quite different from the majority of Pakistani members since they don't know her past and activities. She divorced her husband to marry her jihadi lover (who was 10 or 15 years younger than her) and ended up where she deserve and it is useless to debate how well American treated her but yes Dr. Afia can request separate case against them.

 

[Mrc]

And why was this claim not made by her or her lawyers during her trial?? As mitigating circumstances??

 

[Amitik]

America bogus justice. Its like saying Stalin was justified to send people in gulags because they criticized his opinions. Aafia Sidiqui is essentially a political prisoner that America fears its release and this is why they have condemned her to die in prison.

Do you not understand the meaning of 86 years? is not equal to natural life.

Ms. Sidiqui was convicted by a grand jury, she had the right to challenge the conviction, she chose not to.

She was sentenced, she had the opportunity to file an appeal if she believed the sentence was unjust compared to her crime, she chose not.

She was afforded every right before the law.

And why was this claim not made by her or her lawyers during her trial?? As mitigating circumstances??

It was, it was unproven and unsubstantiated.
How could she fire a weapon with intent to kill while being raped by 6 soldiers and come out of it alive? it simply doesn't make any sense.

 

[GiannKall]

My view on Dr. Afia are quite different from the majority of Pakistani members since they don't know her past and activities. She divorced her husband to marry her jihadi lover (who was 10 or 15 years younger than her) and ended up where she deserve and it is useless to debate how well American treated her but yes Dr. Afia can request separate case against them.

So marriage is a crime that deserves 90 years in prison? Interesting law justice. Fact is that she was not even convicted for terrorism. She was convicted because she supposingly grabbed a weapon when the Americans came to arrest her, which is dubious. But even if she did that 90 years without any having any chance to see someone is something that reminds Stalin or Hitler. I guess if you were a stalin admirer you would support similar penalties to "right terrorists" that criticize the government dont you?

 

[kamrananvaar]

She committed murder, she should have been raped. Good.

Nobody should be raped and she never killed no one . Do ur research first

 

[Amitik]

So marriage is a crime that deserves 90 years in prison?

No, but
Attempted Murder X2,
Assault with a deadly weapon
carrying and using a prohibited firearm.
Assault without causing actual bodily harm X3

Is very much a crime, that deserved the punishment she got.

 

[wOnDeR-ChAp]

So marriage is a crime that deserves 90 years in prison? Interesting law justice. Fact is that she was not even convicted for terrorism. She was convicted because she supposingly grabbed a weapon when the Americans came to arrest her, which is dubious. But even if she did that 90 years without any having any chance to see someone is something that reminds Stalin or Hitler. I guess if you were a stalin admirer you would support similar penalties to "right terrorists" that criticize the government dont you?

She was arrested preemptively carrying maps and formulas of biological weapons for interrogations according to US Govt / forces but where she grabbed a weapon and all you know. But my point is that she was married and have 5 children with a man but suddenly divorced her husband even not thinking about the future of her children and married to a Jihadi who is 15 years younger than her and moved with him and 5 innocent children to Afghanistan...I don't know much and don't wants to know since she proved that she was irresponsible person even don'r care about the future and lives of small children she could be a very dangerous terrorist.

 

[GiannKall]

No, but
Attempted Murder X2,
Assault with a deadly weapon
carrying and using a firearm
Assault without causing actual bodily harm X3

Is very much a crime, that deserved the punishment she got.

Per wiki

There are conflicting accounts of the events following her arrest in Ghazni, Afghanistan. American authorities say that two FBI agents, a US Army warrant officer, a US Army captain, and their US military interpreters arrived in Ghazni the following day, on 18 July, to interview Siddiqui at the Afghan National Police facility where she was being held.[12][77][81] They reported they congregated in a meeting room that was partitioned by a curtain, but did not realise that Siddiqui was standing unsecured behind the curtain.[12][81] The warrant officer sat down and put his loaded M4 carbine on the floor by his feet, near the curtain.[12][81] Siddiqui drew back the curtain, picked up the rifle, and pointed it at the captain.[77][81] "I could see the barrel of the rifle, the inner portion of the barrel of the weapon; that indicated to me that it was pointed straight at my head," he said.[77][81] Then, she was said to have threatened them loudly in English, and yelled "Get the **** out of here" and "May the blood of [unintelligible] be on your [head or hands]".[12][81] The captain dove for cover to his left, as she yelled "Allah Akbar" and fired at least two shots at them, missing them.[11][77][81] An Afghan interpreter who was seated closest to her tried to disarm her.[12][77][81][82] At that point the warrant officer returned fire with a 9-millimeter pistol, hitting her in the torso, and one of the interpreters disarmed her.[11][12][60][81] A Justice Department statement said that Siddiqui struck and kicked the officers during the ensuing struggle; "she shout[ed] in English that she wanted to kill Americans", and then lost consciousness.[12][81]

Siddiqui related a different version of events, according to Pakistani senators who later visited her in jail. She denied touching a gun, shouting, or threatening anyone. She said she stood up to see who was on the other side of the curtain, and that after one of the startled soldiers shouted "She is loose", she was shot. On regaining consciousness, she said someone said "We could lose our jobs."[20]

Some of the Afghan police offered a third version of the events, telling Reuters that US troops had demanded that she be handed over, disarmed the Afghans when they refused, and then shot Siddiqui mistakenly thinking she was a suicide bomber.


So she was not charged with terrorism which is astonishing if she is really "a hardcore al qaeda terrorist" but because she resisted an illegal arrest. And that deserves 90 years in isolation. Wow. Stalin should stop be shy about his crimes. Muricans are not far behind

 

[GiannKall]

She was arrested preemptively carrying maps and formulas of biological weapons for interrogations according to US Govt / forces but where she grabbed a weapon and all you know. But my point is that she was married and have 5 children with a man but suddenly divorced her husband even not thinking about the future of her children and married to a Jihadi who is 15 years younger than her and moved with him and 5 innocent children to Afghanistan...I don't know much and don't wants to know since she proved that she was irresponsible person even don'r care about the future and lives of small children she could be a very dangerous terrorist.

So your point is that divorce should be illegal? Interesting opinion. Even if she was associated with "terrorists"(edit half of Afghans who fight the pro-western government for 15 years now are considered terrorists by Americans)90 years in prison isolation is a proof that Americans simply dont want to let her free because she would say things that would harm American "freedom" reputation

 

[wOnDeR-ChAp]

So your point is that divorce should be illegal? Interesting opinion. Even if she was associated with "terrorists"(edit half of Afghans who fight the pro-western government for 15 years now are considered terrorists by Americans)90 years in prison isolation is a proof that Americans simply dont want to let her free because she would say things that would harm American "freedom" reputation

You have serious comprehension issues...

I don't want to continue a debate with a retard.

Bye.

 

[VCheng]

My view on Dr. Afia are quite different from the majority of Pakistani members since they don't know her past and activities. She divorced her husband to marry her jihadi lover (who was 10 or 15 years younger than her) and ended up where she deserve and it is useless to debate how well American treated her but yes Dr. Afia can request separate case against them.

She eventually got the justice she deserved, but that was by due process, under which she has certain rights which are inviolable.

 

[GiannKall]

You have serious comprehension issues...

I don't want to continue a debate with a retard.

Bye.

Me? LOL. Its you that uses the argument "she divorced therefore..". A stupid argument. Fact is that she WASNT convicted for terrorism because no satisfying clues emerged. Do you get that? Good. She was convicted because she "resisted"in her arrest. She might be stupid to travel in Afghanistan but the fact that she was convicted 90 years in isolation and after a hidden trial means that the conviction is not about criminal activities but because America fears what she has to say

 

[VCheng]

She was convicted because she "resisted"in her arrest. She might be stupid to travel in Afghanistan but the fact that she was convicted 90 years

Sir, she was apprehended in Karachi by Pakistani authorities and disappeared till her appearance in Bagram, where she attempted to kill soldiers.

 

[wOnDeR-ChAp]

Sir, she was apprehended in Karachi by Pakistani authorities and disappeared till her appearance in Bagram, where she attempted to kill soldiers.

As per sources She was captured inside Afghanistan along with one or two children with maps of building biological weapons.

 

[Amitik]

t. Fact is that she WASNT convicted for terrorism because no satisfying clues emerged. Do you get that? Good.

She was never charged with terrorism, I don't care to speculate as to why that was. It could be any number of reasons. Such as
A. They believed they didn't have sufficient evidence to convict her of that.
B. They believed that the seriousness of charges she's facing if convicted would result in a 'long enough sentence' for all practical purposes.
C. They have 86 years to charge with terrorism if they want to. If she alive in the year August 30, 2083, They can choose to file charges then

She was convicted because she "resisted"in her arrest.

As I said above, she was convicted because a grand jury found her guilty based upon the strength of the evidence presented.

she was convicted 90 years in isolation and after a hidden trial means that the conviction is not about criminal activities but because America fears what she has to say

She was convicted to 90 years. Nobody gets a conviction to a time duration.
I think you mean to say she was sentenced to 90 years for the convictions she got.