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india is a hindu terrorist nation
True dat...Hindu terrorists are now going all around the world using cars, planes, guns, trucks, knives & bombs to massacre innocents all over the world.
He was a king and like any other king, he was supposed to control and rule his kingdom, Ashoka has blood to his hands, so did Shivaji and so did every king. People from many parts in India don't hold Marathas in high regards either yet they aren't painted as mainstream villians yet Tipu Sultan is demonized. So me having a DP of Tipu Sultan is no different than someone having some other king/Political figure's DP. If me having a DP of Tipu Sultan indicates the bravado of muslims, what does it indicate of people who literally worship Maharana Pratap, Ranjit Singh or Shivaji?
He was a king and like any other king, he was supposed to control and rule his kingdom, Ashoka has blood to his hands, so did Shivaji and so did every king. People from many parts in India don't hold Marathas in high regards either yet they aren't painted as mainstream villians yet Tipu Sultan is demonized. So me having a DP of Tipu Sultan is no different than someone having some other king/Political figure's DP. If me having a DP of Tipu Sultan indicates the bravado of muslims, what does it indicate of people who literally worship Maharana Pratap, Ranjit Singh or Shivaji?
Why not plug them all????Called politics .
We have muslim leaders that claim they will kill all Hindus .
He was a king and like any other king, he was supposed to control and rule his kingdom, Ashoka has blood to his hands, so did Shivaji and so did every king. People from many parts in India don't hold Marathas in high regards either yet they aren't painted as mainstream villians yet Tipu Sultan is demonized. So me having a DP of Tipu Sultan is no different than someone having some other king/Political figure's DP. If me having a DP of Tipu Sultan indicates the bravado of muslims, what does it indicate of people who literally worship Maharana Pratap, Ranjit Singh or Shivaji?
Here we go, Thanks for accepting that even BJP does appeasement albeit to its own votebank. I hope I won't be hearing(Atleast from you) as to how BJP doesn't do appeasement and is for "sabka saath sabka vikas".
Signing off, I just want to say that even Bigotry and Pseudo nationalism won't pump the economy and reduce corruption either and I know that Hindutva apologists don't care for minorities or their opinion. So I am OK with that.
Peace..!
I tried to explain the best I could. Here is one last attempt.
The people who worship Shivaji are not going to Karnataka and asking for reservations. Do you see the difference?
Your situation is different , you want to get a freebie from the very people you raided while at the same time revelling in your raids. How's that working out for you?
There is no provision for reservation on the basis of religion in the constitution. For a constitutional amendment you need a super majority in parliament. For that you need a LOT of goodwill over an extended period of time from the voting public. The voting public are mostly people who were at the receiving end of the antics of your heroes. Keep doing what you're doing but just decide ahead of time how you like your eggs......boiled, fried or omelette...because that's all you'll get.
Look , I do understand where you're coming from. You want pride, and I have empathy for that. However, the situation on the ground has changed a lot, better to find your pride in 21st century icons if you actually want to achieve something.
If all you're doing is posturing.....after all reservation does not affect you personally. you are educated and can afford to send your kids to good schools...it affects only those who are too poor to have a say in any of this.
Having said that I really don't care too much one way or the other. I don't need reservations.
One has to compromise thats the only way to reduce tension permanently.
But they are asking for reservation in Maharashtra and also being provided, Tipu Sultan's rule and expanse was just limited to South India, I could have understood this bitterness if people ravaged by his rule/attacks(i.e. from South India) had raised their voice but why are people in North so against him when they had nothing to do with him/his rule. Ashoka ravaged Kalinga but I don't see that kind of negativity against him. So why this selective outrage?I tried to explain the best I could. Here is one last attempt.
The people who worship Shivaji are not going to Karnataka and asking for reservations. Do you see the difference?
Why do you speak as if muslims are at mercy of "these people"? No muslims aren't. They are citizens with equal rights like any other Indian(It's another thing that Sanghis don't really like that). Indian muslims like any other Indian have contributed and continue to contribute, so what is it with this so-called "freebie". Backwards among Indian muslims are as much a citizen as Dalits or other OBC's and when Dalits or OBC's get this freebie, why not muslims.Your situation is different , you want to get a freebie from the very people you raided while at the same time revelling in your raids. How's that working out for you?
If you want to delve in the past and keep reminding about "receiving end". Then let me tell you that at some point of time, every community has been at receiving end and if we keep digging deep, I don't think there will be many heroes of different communities whose antics may not be able to stand the present day standards of Human rights.There is no provision for reservation on the basis of religion in the constitution. For a constitutional amendment you need a super majority in parliament. For that you need a LOT of goodwill over an extended period of time from the voting public. The voting public are mostly people who were at the receiving end of the antics of your heroes. Keep doing what you're doing but just decide ahead of time how you like your eggs......boiled, fried or omelette...because that's all you'll get.
Don't the Hindus, Sikhs and many others derive their pride from Shivaji, Ranjit Singh, Rajputs etc? So when muslims want to have the same pride over Tipu Sultan, Akbar etc, Why the outrage? If others can hold on to their identities why not muslims?Look , I do understand where you're coming from. You want pride, and I have empathy for that. However, the situation on the ground has changed a lot, better to find your pride in 21st century icons if you actually want to achieve something.
If all you're doing is posturing.....after all reservation does not affect you personally. you are educated and can afford to send your kids to good schools...it affects only those who are too poor to have a say in any of this.
Having said that I really don't care too much one way or the other. I don't need reservations.
Oh really?But they are asking for reservation in Maharashtra and also being provided, Tipu Sultan's rule and expanse was just limited to South India, I could have understood this bitterness if people ravaged by his rule/attacks(i.e. from South India) had raised their voice but why are people in North so against him when they had nothing to do with him/his rule. Ashoka ravaged Kalinga but I don't see that kind of negativity against him. So why this selective outrage?
Why do you speak as if muslims are at mercy of "these people"? No muslims aren't. They are citizens with equal rights like any other Indian(It's another thing that Sanghis don't really like that). Indian muslims like any other Indian have contributed and continue to contribute, so what is it with this so-called "freebie". Backwards among Indian muslims are as much a citizen as Dalits or other OBC's and when Dalits or OBC's get this freebie, why not muslims.
If you want to delve in the past and keep reminding about "receiving end". Then let me tell you that at some point of time, every community has been at receiving end and if we keep digging deep, I don't think there will be many heroes of different communities whose antics may not be able to stand the present day standards of Human rights.
Don't the Hindus, Sikhs and many others derive their pride from Shivaji, Ranjit Singh, Rajputs etc? So when muslims want to have the same pride over Tipu Sultan, Akbar etc, Why the outrage? If others can hold on to their identities why not muslims?
And No, I am not doing any kind of posturing here, I am trying to present the argument as to why muslims of India need reservation and why Government should provide it. I clearly stated previously that I would want reservation based on one's financial standing but I don't see that happening anytime sooner hence I ask for reservation to certain sections among muslims.
Because the son was, does not give the father rights to steal another family's cow.
NY times has stopped doing journalism and started peddling crap for a long time now. Well, they said Hillary will become president 100%
I really mean it. It's people like you with your visceral hatred for Hindus, are our greatest supporters. You lot have done more to unite Hindus than BJP/RSS has ever done.
Your situation is different , you want to get a freebie from the very people you raided while at the same time revelling in your raids. How's that working out for you?
The people who worship Shivaji are not going to Karnataka and asking for reservations. Do you see the difference?
You're not fooling anyone here with your blatant lies.Maratha community members organised a massive rally in Bidar on Wednesday, seeking reservation and other benefits. While the organisers claimed that over one lakh persons attended the rally, the police counted at least 50,000 attendees.
Protestors carried flags and placards written in Marathi and Kannada, but no slogans were raised as it was supposed to be a “Mooka Morcha” or silent rally.
The rally started at the Paapnash temple gate on Zaheerabad-Nanded road. Police stopped the innumerable vehicles carrying the protestors at Naubad on the outskirts of the city. The protestors walked between 3-6 km, depending on where their vans were parked, before the rally ended at the Deputy Commissioner’s office.
It seemed protestors from neighbouring districts in Telangana and Maharashtra had driven in to Bidar. The announcers who spoke from a jeep that moved along the rally, thanked fellow Marathas from Latur and Nanded districts in Maharashtra and Sangareddy and Nizamabad districts of Telangana.
Look , I do understand where you're coming from. You want pride, and I have empathy for that. However, the situation on the ground has changed a lot, better to find your pride in 21st century icons if you actually want to achieve something.
What did tipu sultan do and why?Oh really?
We had these same discussions before and I can dig that PDF thread that littered with full of stupidity when I said that the religious bigot Tipu Sultan destroyed entire social and religious fabric and he did all types of cruelty against Hindus especially my own community .
So stop this nonsense .
Hindus in North India cares about Hindus in South India.They very creation of RSS linked to the Malabar Rebellion and hypocrisy of INC at that time .
I don't want to discuss the 'crime' committed by the Akhlaq family. It's already a goddamn shame that I'm trying to justify a man eating a cow to someone.
Yeah, the Guardian, BBC, NYT, Reuters, etc are all peddling crap. We should only trust your Yogis who lurk in Muslim graveyards and defile buried bodies.
It's funny how me using the term Saffron baboon was enough to unite Hindus on the cause of raping buried bodies like brave Hindu tigers. Could you, or any of the goons thanking your posts explain to me how that works?
It's a god damned shame that "these people" have been stealing cows & Calf of Hindus with complete complicity of state machinery.
When the law that is supposed to protect you and your property shows favor on basis of religion and panders to it, you get Dadri.
OK buddy. Show me one article of theirs in the last one year, A SINGLE ONE, that predicted Trump's win. If u can show, I will concede the debate right now.
Another demolished lie some how keeps finding itself into debates. Little wonder we Hindus are uniting.
If you want to talk burning woman & little kids, you should probably go into history.