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Since I have really learned today, the true democratic system is really not the true democratic system, but the perception of Pakistanie democractic system is really the democractic system.

Ohh, sorry I have played my theatrics card again....
I know, its like dealing with a total drama queen :)

Pakistanis reject your help. Simple as that.
 
Keeping with the mood of the thread that a person in glass house shouldn’t pelt stones, may be you should take a long hard look at yourself. 1971 rings a bell?

That record alone – which is dwarfed only by the likes of a certain Hitler and a Pol Pot – is enough for the Pakistanis to not point at others for the next 500 years.
We aren't the ones acting all superior, you should mind your own business as every person in Pakistan would reject Indian meddling into our affairs. This so called majority that is yearning for India's interferencing only exists in the fantasies of Indians.
 
We don't want to get on the horse. Problem is that India wants to be on the horse, but doesn't wants anyone around it to be on either a horse or a mule or even a donkey. So that is the problem, a country with regional super power mentality, who can't see the countries around it standing on its feet, or barely standing. That is the real problem.

And we won't let that happen, which becomes a pain in the Indian arse.

You have to be on the horse to get ahead. we all walk the road of progress, Some attain faster means than others.

Lets be frank here when was the last time The Sub-continent prospered. 400-900 years ago at the very least. Long before the British. May be As far as the Days of Akbar.

What has the sub-continent represented in the last 60 years, but poverty and war, is India to blame for all of it. Or is it spread amongst all parties. Sri lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan and India.

We fought wars, Civil wars have poverty in the Hundreds of Millions.

Now look at today,
India Is on the world stage Politically ,economically and in Space
The Civil war in Sri Lanka is over and the country can finally look to get back on Track
The Civil war in Nepal has subsided and order seems to have returned. growth prospects are also high
Bangladesh now has a new strong government committed to development and a fresh start.
Even Pakistan after years of Military rule, once again has a democratic government.

tell me how has India destabilized the region. Fact of the matter is Our growth has impacted favorably on the whole region. India has not made matters worse, Not saying they directly made everything better. But they neither made anything worse.

Our time on the horse has yielded no ill effect to anyone.
And today if south Asia has the look of a Stable region, that largely due to India.

To say India keeps everyone down is lie.

By definition, one cannot claim "superiority" without labeling someone else as inferior.

Act as normal human beings and not demigods, and we won't have the need to knock sense into you now and then.

No one is claiming superiority, That wholly depends on every nation other than India.

India has the right to be the best it can be, if that creates a disparity in power and capability. Is it India's fault for achieving it or everyone Else's for not keeping up.
 
The problem is your author is acting all superior and condescending by suggesting how India has to go about helping the poor oppressed Pakistanis, we are just holding up a mirror.

It's like Indians are walking around with a tag, "Hit me and get me off my high horse". Pakistanis are only obliging. If you want peace with Pakistan, fix your attitude.

Firstly, my response was to somebody else who accused my country men of being kafirs in the name of religion. Secondly, the bolded part makes no sense since my response was particularly aimed at how some Pakistani's believe Indian Muslims to be their responsibility when .... you know what I intended to fill in there. I request people here again...let me say it since some people don't want to understand it ..leave Indian Muslims alone..they are not Pakistanis.. I hope I made my stand clear..Please continue...I just wanted to clear the air ..(strictly based on what I had typed as a response)
 
No one is claiming superiority, That wholly depends on every nation other than India.

India has the right to be the best it can be, if that creates a disparity in power and capability. Is it India's fault for achieving it or everyone Else's for not keeping up.

Actually when you argue within yourselves that you need to HELP Pakistanis become more humane, quit terrorism, and be less Islamist... We're left with one expression >>:blah:

We're not talking about your capabilities or your super duper economy, we're talking about you guys feeling that you have the right to intervene within our affairs. The disparity is not within our capabilities the disparity is from the starting point of every conversation that Indians have with us. If the very baseline assumptions are wrong, everything, EVERYTHING else about India and Pakistan will be wrong.

You have no moral high ground, no one in Pakistan believes it, then wtf are we even talking about?

Unless its all for a show. Then maybe the Americans and the rest of the west might believe this drama of moral high ground and you may win some points there. If that's all that its about then Pakistanis will always be there calling out your lies :)
 
yes if you will demolish our Mosques and messacre our muslim brothers in gujrat burn our people alive in samjhota express maintain your illegitimate control of Kashmir while killing 90 thousand Kashmiris and not allowing them their right to self determination even then there should be no trouble right?

You guys have commited serious crimes and you will get prosicuted in the same manner.

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You are my man:yahoo: :pakistan:
 
Indra Gandhi was gunned down by her Sikh body guard as a revenge for trampling the serenity of the Golden Temple, Rajiv Gandhi was taken out by a Tamil bomber for siding with the Sri Lanka.
Instead of trying to prove more loyal than the Master's pet,.......

One could ask the Indian Muslims, how did they prove their worth after the destruction of the Babri Mosque and Gujrat Massacre. ??
 
Indra Gandhi was gunned down by her Sikh body guard as a revenge for trampling the serenity of the Golden Temple, Rajiv Gandhi was taken out by a Tamil bomber for siding with the Sri Lanka.
Instead of trying to prove more loyal than the Master's pet,.......

One could ask the Indian Muslims, how did they prove their worth after the destruction of the Babri Mosque and Gujrat Massacre. ??

Stop living in past see the present we need not to prove anything to any one
 
Stop living in past see the present we need not to prove anything to any one

Past ?......Even today, many of those Gujrat refugees are too scared to return. But i guess none are your family members. !!!!
And if you weren't to prove anything, then you weren't exactly invited here to post your article. !! What were your intentions. ???
 
Past ?......Even today, many of those Gujrat refugees are too scared to return. But i guess none are your family members. !!!!
And if you weren't to prove anything, then you weren't exactly invited here to post your article. !! What were your intentions. ???

Do you stay in Gujarat to know that they are scared?Stop reading propaganda.Every country spreads propaganda against its enemies you dont have to believe everything newspapers say.Start reading more.True...the past was horrendous but it has changed a lot
 
Do you stay in Gujarat to know that they are scared?Stop reading propaganda.Every country spreads propaganda against its enemies you dont have to believe everything newspapers say.Start reading more.True...the past was horrendous but it has changed a lot

Buddy, i don't think that Pakistan has any influence over the likes of BBC or that British Media has any sinister motives when reporting on the plight of Gujrat Muslims.
 
Indra Gandhi was gunned down by her Sikh body guard as a revenge for trampling the serenity of the Golden Temple, Rajiv Gandhi was taken out by a Tamil bomber for siding with the Sri Lanka.
Instead of trying to prove more loyal than the Master's pet,.......

One could ask the Indian Muslims, how did they prove their worth after the destruction of the Babri Mosque and Gujrat Massacre. ??
I wonder how come an insinuation like that is allowed to remain and not deleted as 'Off Topic'.

And Windjammer, what makes you think that Indian Muslims are answerable to you?
 
I wonder how come an insinuation like that is allowed to remain and not deleted as 'Off Topic'.

And Windjammer, what makes you think that Indian Muslims are answerable to you?

As i said having one on one healthy debate is like walking down an Indian street.
The Indian Muslims are indeed not answerable to me but some of them seem prone to justify them self without due reason and explanation.
In the same scenario, what business do yous have in poking your nose with say the Taliban problem we alone are dealing with. ???
 
Past ?......Even today, many of those Gujrat refugees are too scared to return. But i guess none are your family members. !!!!

And if you weren't to prove anything, then you weren't exactly invited here to post your article. !! What were your intentions. ???

Running away from the argument again :)
 

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