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[karan.1970]

Past ?......Even today, many of those Gujrat refugees are too scared to return. But i guess none are your family members. !!!!
And if you weren't to prove anything, then you weren't exactly invited here to post your article. !! What were your intentions. ???

Not your state
Not your fellow citizens
Not your choice on where he posts anything..

hmm..Looks like a repeat of my earlier post

 

[Windjammer]

Running away from the argument again

Yea, these one liners just prove that.

 

[karan.1970]

In the same scenario, what business do yous have in poking your nose with say the Taliban problem we alone are dealing with. ???

It would really be heaven if that was true.. I mean you alone dealing with it..

Had it not spilled over to rest of the world, Life for whole of the subcontinent would have been much better and we wouldnt be having this conversation..

 

[Windjammer]

Not your state
Not your fellow citizens
Not your choice on where he posts anything..

hmm..Looks like a repeat of my earlier post

Yea, you seem to be going around in circles like a yo yo.

 

[toxic_pus]

As i said having one on one healthy debate is like walking down an Indian street.

Insinuating that Indian Muslims' patriotism is just an act of sucking upto Hindu 'masters', is anything but an attempt at 'healthy' debate. Then again, I must be using the wrong dictionary.

The Indian Muslims are indeed not answerable to me but some of them seem prone to justify them self without due reason and explanation.

Which 'justifications' 'seem' to be 'without due reason and explanation'. Besides, if they are not answerable to you, why should you care if their 'justifications' are 'without due reason and explanation'.

Let them be. Why do you care? Really.

In the same scenario, what business do yous have in poking your nose with say the Taliban problem we alone are dealing with. ???

Wasn't clear.

 

[abdul1]

Yea, these one liners just prove that.

Why you are worried about Gujrat? This is not the argument in this thread

 

[Windjammer]

Insinuating that Indian Muslims' patriotism is just an act of sucking upto Hindu 'masters', is anything but an attempt at 'healthy' debate. Then again, I must be using the wrong dictionary.

Which 'justifications' 'seem' to be 'without due reason and explanation'. Besides, if they are not answerable to you, why should you care if their 'justifications' are 'without due reason and explanation'.

Let them be. Why do you care? Really.

Wasn't clear.

We are well aware of the tactics used by both the Master and the Cronies as was miserably proven by the staged Maulana during Pervez Musharaff's conference, hence my remark wasn't off target.
There are many who call on you to contribute to fund for the suffering of the Gujrat Muslims, while others portray that it's all in the past and just has been delivered, all is honky dory.
As mentioned earlier, India was so concerned and alarmed over the destruction of Buddha of Bunyan, here after all we are talking living creatures.
And perhaps you need to spend more time reading the posts to understand how every (No) News is submitted by Indian members, in the faint hope something may come out of it.

 

[karan.1970]

Yea, you seem to be going around in circles like a yo yo.

Thanks to you my friend.. You keep coming back to same ghisa - pita raag when you run out of arguements..

Also Yo - Yo oscillates and spins..Doesnt go around in circles. I think you meant a hoola hoop..

 

[Windjammer]

It would really be heaven if that was true.. I mean you alone dealing with it..

Had it not spilled over to rest of the world, Life for whole of the subcontinent would have been much better and we wouldnt be having this conversation..

I guess you missed 90 minutes, as even the US now admits that walking away from Afghanistan after the Russian withdrawal was America's big mistake.
You see the banter of Jihad, Mujahideen and Freedom Fighters wasn't salvaged after the Communist defeat and the bewildered left behinds turned into what's hit the fan and woke every one up to regret. However there are opportunists who want to capitalize on the scenario. India being the main culprit.

 

[Windjammer]

Thanks to you my friend.. You keep coming back to same ghisa - pita raag when you run out of arguements..

Also Yo - Yo oscillates and spins..Doesnt go around in circles. I think you meant a hoola hoop..

Make it count, stop wasting the thread.

 

[MilesTogo]

Sir you forgot. Pakistan is an American ally against war on terror.

You can elaborate in many ways Nemesis , Today Muslims of India may feel proud to Fund those who Kill Their own Brothers ( it they think this way i doubt the do not ) ie Indian army's State terrorism in Kashmir and Indian Muslim tax money is being used to Buy weapons from the Jewish state of Israel and that money is being directly injected into Israeli economy and being used to Kill Palestinians.

Indian muslims may feel today as they like to or even feel proud of their " Crime " but one day they would repent on it that they stood with Kafirs against Islam.

 

[Peshwa]

Actually when you argue within yourselves that you need to HELP Pakistanis become more humane, quit terrorism, and be less Islamist... We're left with one expression >>

We're not talking about your capabilities or your super duper economy, we're talking about you guys feeling that you have the right to intervene within our affairs. The disparity is not within our capabilities the disparity is from the starting point of every conversation that Indians have with us. If the very baseline assumptions are wrong, everything, EVERYTHING else about India and Pakistan will be wrong.

You have no moral high ground, no one in Pakistan believes it, then wtf are we even talking about?

Unless its all for a show. Then maybe the Americans and the rest of the west might believe this drama of moral high ground and you may win some points there. If that's all that its about then Pakistanis will always be there calling out your lies

Except for the article posted, no Indian has actually cared to meddle in Pakistani affairs.....

But please follow the posts and see that it is the Pakistani Posters and members here who feel they are the saviors of Indian Muslims and somehow feel they should intervene for Gujrat Massacre, Babri Masjid....etc etc...

Talking about meddling in others affairs are we....?
Practice what you preach sir....

 

[Peshwa]

We are well aware of the tactics used by both the Master and the Cronies as was miserably proven by the staged Maulana during Pervez Musharaff's conference, hence my remark wasn't off target.
There are many who call on you to contribute to fund for the suffering of the Gujrat Muslims, while others portray that it's all in the past and just has been delivered, all is honky dory.
As mentioned earlier, India was so concerned and alarmed over the destruction of Buddha of Bunyan, here after all we are talking living creatures.
And perhaps you need to spend more time reading the posts to understand how every (No) News is submitted by Indian members, in the faint hope something may come out of it.

Just because Indian Muslims dont tug your line of thinking....so they become "Indian puppets"....

Is it really that hard to bare that muslims in the subcontinent can actually live peacefully in a secular democracy side by side with the Hindus....or is it that after choosing your own fate based on religion, your country is still in shambles?

Your country and people chose their destiny....Indian muslims theirs....
Heaven is a perception based on perspective.....


^^^^(Highlighted) We would be equally concerned if the Taj Mahal, Lal Qilla, or ruins at Mohenjodaro were destroyed......All part of our history Hindu, Muslim,Sikh, Buddhist, Jain...we consider them all our own...

But seems that others choose history selectively based on religion....hence one only PMS's for the Babri Masjid on your side....

 

[toxic_pus]

We are well aware of the tactics used by both the Master and the Cronies as was miserably proven by the staged Maulana during Pervez Musharaff's conference, hence my remark wasn't off target.
There are many who call on you to contribute to fund for the suffering of the Gujrat Muslims, while others portray that it's all in the past and just has been delivered, all is honky dory.
As mentioned earlier, India was so concerned and alarmed over the destruction of Buddha of Bunyan, here after all we are talking living creatures.
And perhaps you need to spend more time reading the posts to understand how every (No) News is submitted by Indian members, in the faint hope something may come out of it.

Yes of course, a 'true' Indian Muslim will never question Pakistan's 'god'-given right to be their protectors. Anybody doing that, must be sucking up to the Hindu 'masters'.

Come to think of it, Asim was actually talking of how Indian's suffer from that 'superior than thou' attitude. Apparently, Pak Muslim's condescending attitude towards Indian Muslims is quite alright.

Doublespeak?

 

[karan.1970]

I guess you missed 90 minutes, as even the US now admits that walking away from Afghanistan after the Russian withdrawal was America's big mistake.
You see the banter of Jihad, Mujahideen and Freedom Fighters wasn't salvaged after the Communist defeat and the bewildered left behinds turned into what's hit the fan and woke every one up to regret. However there are opportunists who want to capitalize on the scenario. India being the main culprit.

No I didn't miss it. Even if you created this monster at behest of US, its still your creation that you nourished and supported against the USSR. USA should have fixed this before they left afghanistan but they didnt. That does not absolve Pakistan of the responsibility and does not turn it into a victim. If you are a victim of something that you created and then it got out to your hand, then dude, its you who over extended. Nobody heard pakistan complaining about these before 9/11. These same guys were used by the dictatorships in Pakistan to rule Afg by proxy. Right now by showing itself as the victim, the Pakistani establishment (not the people though) is just doing a CYA..