Xinjiang Province: News & Discussions

[KRAIT]

@Chinese Dragon What's the situation there ? I read about this in the newspaper.

P.S. Long time, no see.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I don't know why they still dream of this.

I've known those folks for long time, their usual tactic is to compare CPC with Qing Dynasty; how Qing is non-Han foreign invaders, then how the Marxism is also non-Chinese foreign ideology, thus it should be expelled just like Qing.

Most of them are also very fond of Christianity, yet they still have the nerve to criticize how non-Chinese the Marxism is, what a shameless group of people.

According to their logic, the ROC is 100% orthodox Chinese regime, but many KMT leaders followed the Christianity is not a problem at all.

They even try to convince people how the Ming Dynasty was advanced because of the Christianity.

So this is the so-called Huanghan nationalists? They are the biggest history tampering scumbags of all time.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

@Chinese Dragon What's the situation there ? I read about this in the newspaper.

P.S. Long time, no see.

Situation there is not the best, unfortunately.

I'm kind of disappointed that we weren't able to stop the incident before it happened, considering the massive budget and resources being used there.

 

[KRAIT]

Situation there is not the best, unfortunately.
I'm kind of disappointed that we weren't able to stop the incident before it happened, considering the massive budget and resources being used there.

Hope your govt. uses the Iron Fist policy and up root the problem as soon as possible. That region of yours can get unstable if US starts focusing on it too much...not that it isn't doing it.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Qing dynasty are the best dynasty in China. Name me one bad emperor in Qing dynasty? All Qing dynasty emperors good, even Pu Yi is not a bad emperor. And besides, Qing dynasty has given China 3 times the land area compared to Ming dynasty. Because of Qing dynasty, China have the large area of land today, even after losing a lot of land to Russia and India, China still have enough land to become a super power. Emperor Kang Xi is the best emperor in entire history of China.

If Ming dynasty reign during the opium war, China could be conquered entirely.

Territory of Ming

Territory of Qing

I am not commenting on the Emperors, which i believe is feudalism.

But Qing has contributed the map to China most, i agree 100%, and PRC is the true successor of China's history after Qing, while ROC was so incompetent and would most likely lose everything to our enemies if they were not retreating to Taiwan.

 

[Snomannen]

I am not commenting on the Emperors, which i believe is feudalism.

But Qing has contributed the map to China most, i agree 100%, and PRC is the true successor of China's history after Qing, while ROC was so incompetent and would most likely lose everything to our enemies if they were not retreating to Taiwan.

The Ming Dynasty was like a pity balloon, it has been losing its territory inherited from Yuan since it was established. The first Emperor of Ming even sold out those land belongs to Manchurian ancestors to Korean. Yet Qing Dynasty has been expanding its territory since the day it was established. Even in the end of the Dynasty, Qing still has the bigger land than Ming in its best period.
Qing Dynasty had all the Mongolian obey its authority, completely defeated Junggar the most dangerous enemy in the West and took over Taiwan, yet Ming's poor Emperor was even captured by those Mongolian.
Even in Qing Dynasty they can build their own weapons by its heavy industry, yet the ROC can't even make themselves a bullet.

 

[rcrmj]

just had a talk with one of my best friends from Xingjiang, those Hans Chinese are furious, the local government had sent out thousands of 武警 (armed police) to make sure no ethnic killings will happen like the one few years ago```either Uyghur killing Hans or Hans beating Uyghurs```

he said the biggest problem for these kind of situation is that the unfair government policy towards the local Hans, Uyghur got spoiled, and the Gv failed to integrate them into modern China society

for examples, the government letting Uyghur to have their own schools, forbid their women to marry any non Uyghurs and forbid to change their religion....etc

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Now i have completely ditched the racial superiority ideology created by Huanghan, the so-called Han supremacy will cause China to split apart.

中华民族 are good people who are very disciplined and hardworking when under a good system and leadership. We can create a lot of miracle if we firmly unite together, and this honor belongs to everyone of us.

The so-called 'superior' Hans under the bad leadership such as KMT, 200 million of our people got starved to death from the 1912-1945 period, yet another 30 million got slaughtered by the Japanese invaders.

See, there is no so-called superior Hans, only Chinese patriots united together with 56 different ethnic groups and build up a prosperous China for our future generation.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Ming Dynasty was like a pity balloon, it has been losing its territory inherited from Yuan since it was established. The first Emperor of Ming even sold out those land belongs to Manchurian ancestors to Korean. Yet Qing Dynasty has been expanding its territory since the day it was established. Even in the end of the Dynasty, Qing still has the bigger land than Ming in its best period.
Qing Dynasty had all the Mongolian obey its authority, completely defeated Junggar the most dangerous enemy in the West and took over Taiwan, yet Ming's poor Emperor was even captured by those Mongolian.
Even in Qing Dynasty they can build their own weapons by its heavy industry, yet the ROC can't even make themselves a bullet.

The best Ming Emperor is Zhu Di, he had the vision to expand the Ming territory, too bad his son and his officials were all shortsighted, since they believed that expanding the territory and influence is a waste of money.

Ming during the era of Zhu Di was approximately the size of the modern PRC, but shortly after his death, the Ming has lost its territory rapidly due the incompetent behavior of his son and his officials.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Now i have completely ditched the racial superiority ideology created by Huanghan, the so-called Han supremacy will cause China to split apart.

中华民族 are good people who are very disciplined and hardworking when under a good system and leadership. We can create a lot of miracle if we firmly unite together, and this honors belong to everyone of us.

So so-called 'superior' Hans under the bad leadership such as KMT, 200 million of our people got starved to death from the 1912-1945 period, yet another 30 million got slaughtered by the Japanese invaders.

See, there is no so-called superior Hans, only Chinese patriots united together with 56 different ethnic groups and build up a prosperous China for our future generation.

I agree.

China is united by our shared "civilization", not by any one single ethnicity or race.

 

[Wholegrain]

I've known those folks for long time, their usual tactic is to compare CPC with Qing Dynasty; how Qing is non-Han foreign invaders, then how the Marxism is also non-Chinese foreign ideology, thus it should be expelled just like Qing.

Most of them are also very fond of Christianity, yet they still have the nerve to criticize how non-Chinese the Marxism is, what a shameless group of people.

According to their logic, the ROC is 100% orthodox Chinese regime, but many KMT leaders followed the Christianity is not a problem at all.

They even try to convince people how the Ming Dynasty was advanced because of the Christianity.

So this is the so-called Huanghan nationalists? They are the biggest history tampering scumbags of all time.

Unless you've been to Taiwan you have no idea wtf your talking about. Most of those dumb internet warrior huanghan are kids and teenagers sitting at their computers whining on online forums from mainland and they don't follow any political party. KMT does not preach that **** at all. Stop trying to look for a scapegoat. The KMT says the same thing as CPC about ethnic minorities.

The Ming Dynasty was like a pity balloon, it has been losing its territory inherited from Yuan since it was established. The first Emperor of Ming even sold out those land belongs to Manchurian ancestors to Korean. Yet Qing Dynasty has been expanding its territory since the day it was established. Even in the end of the Dynasty, Qing still has the bigger land than Ming in its best period.
Qing Dynasty had all the Mongolian obey its authority, completely defeated Junggar the most dangerous enemy in the West and took over Taiwan, yet Ming's poor Emperor was even captured by those Mongolian.
Even in Qing Dynasty they can build their own weapons by its heavy industry, yet the ROC can't even make themselves a bullet.

The Ming dynasty did not inherit those from the Yuan, it defeated the Yuan and conquered all of China proper, Manchuria and modern day Primosky Krai by force. Yunnan was conquered by force. The Ming did not sell out any of northeast China to Koreans. The land on the northeast korean peninsula was controlled by Jurchen tribes and Koreans fonquered it from the Jurchen. The Ming then conquered Manchuria and sent Yishiha to erect the Yongning Temple Stele.

The Ming defeated the Portuguese at Tunmen and the Dutch at Penghu. Taiwan was also conquered from the Dutch by Ming loyalists.

yet the ROC can't even make themselves a bullet.

This is so blatantly false I don't need to refute this.

 

[Snomannen]

The Ming dynasty did not inherit those from the Yuan, it defeated the Yuan and conquered all of China proper, Manchuria and modern day Primosky Krai by force. Yunnan was conquered by force. The Ming did not sell out any of northeast China to Koreans. The land on the northeast korean peninsula was controlled by Jurchen tribes and Koreans fonquered it from the Jurchen. The Ming then conquered Manchuria and sent Yishiha to erect the Yongning Temple Stele.

The Ming defeated the Portuguese at Tunmen and the Dutch at Penghu. Taiwan was also conquered from the Dutch by Ming loyalists.

Speaking of Yunnan, Ming has lost a lot of territory from tiny Myanmar.
They did not sell out, they gave it away for free.

This is so blatantly false I don't need to refute this.

Well you don't need to since it is just a extreme metaphor

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Unless you've been to Taiwan you have no idea wtf your talking about. Most of those dumb internet warrior huanghan are kids and teenagers sitting at their computers whining on online forums from mainland and they don't follow any political party. KMT does not preach that **** at all. Stop trying to look for a scapegoat. The KMT says the same thing as CPC about ethnic minorities.

I was talking about the Mainland KMT supporters, since all those Huanghan kids are worshipping KMT, thus it causes everyone to diss on KMT, so you can't blame us, but blame those dumb kids for making KMT looks bad.

BTW, i've seen many KMTers from Taiwan are still quite rational, no one is forcing you to love CPC, but accept CPC as a single ruling party is China's best interest.

The interest of both Hans and minorities should be protected, so it is our common interest to keep China together, not causing the divide with the things in the past.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Manchu is a mixed ethnic group formed during the Yuan/Ming Dyansties, they were mixed of Jurchens/Khitans/Hans/Mongols/Koreans.

Of course, all ethnic groups in Dongbei have the close genetic relationship with the Siberians, but they were all mixed as well. Both Hans and those minorities were native there, so stop b1tching about the history.

During the Revolution,manchu Fled to Macau.

At that time,You are the conquered people.

就算在澳门,你们也不过是葡萄牙人统治下的二等公民,

现在皇汉收回了澳门,又恬不知耻的说自己是什么满族,

满族是大陆民族政策的产物,可不包括你们这些丧家犬。

PLA is Marxism-Maoism, not Huanghan, and why your hero KMT cannot take back HK and Macao?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

No matter how much drama shoot, it can not change the history of aggression

如果说日本人是禽兽,那你们就是禽兽不如,

拍那么多辫子戏,猪尾巴更加让人厌恶。

Pigtail was disgusting, no one like it, Qing Dynasty was barbaric of forcing people to adopt this haircut. But so it is other Han Chinese Dynasties, the brutality of executions such as thousand cuts and split people by five horses were existed long before the Qing Dynasty.

All feudalistic dynasties of past were brutal, but nevertheless they were all part of China's history, China does evolve today, it evolve from feudalism (Qing) into capitalism (ROC), and finally into socialism (PRC).

Why it is so hard for you pea brain Huanghan to realize it?

Don't you know that the Imperial Japanese was trying to destroy the Chinese language and characters, they were trying to prevent the Chinese kids to speak Chinese during the WWII, at least the Qing Dynasty has preserved the Chinese language and characters.