Xinjiang Province: News & Discussions

[ChineseTiger1986]

Trust me, religion plays a major part in the separatist movement. The Chinese government has been playing down the religious issues very intelligently. It does not want to stir up any more trouble with the crazies that borders its country.

Sometimes they have killed more Chinese Muslims, so this has to do with the religion issue?

They are just a bunch of Pan-Turkist radicals, they still stick with an ideology that even the Turkish goverment dumps away, they are just bunch of no brain terrorists.

 

[Ahiska]

China and India share a similar history,
We all suffer from alien colonial rule,
And these aliens are distorting our history,
Beautify aggression, manufacturing disaster.
We had an advanced wealthy countries,
Because of the destruction of all alien behind the world,
So I think the Asian countries should unite.

Please tell me who you mean with alien rule......

Sometimes they killed more Chinese Muslims, so this has to do with the religion issue?

They are just a bunch of Pan-Turkist radicals, they still stick with an ideology that the Turkish goverment dumps away, they are just bunch of no brain terrorists.

But there are also people who dont kill chinese who want an independant country not only violent terrorist but the problem i see is that in chinese media there is only those who use terrorist acts like this but what is with those who want to be peacefully independant?

 

[Wholegrain]

Please tell me who you mean with alien rule......


But there are also people who dont kill chinese who want an independant country not only violent terrorist but the problem i see is that in chinese media there is only those who use terrorist acts like this but what is with those who want to be peacefully independant?

Turkey has Kurds who also want to be "peacefully independent". Imagine if Kurds who migrate from eastern Anatolia into Istanbul claim the entire Turkey as their country. The Uyghur separatists are making up fake claims to own the entire Xinjiang province including the north (Dzhungharia) which is the native land of the Zunghars, not Uyghurs.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Please tell me who you mean with alien rule......


But there are also people who dont kill chinese who want an independant country not only violent terrorist but the problem i see is that in chinese media there is only those who use terrorist acts like this but what is with those who want to be peacefully independant?

These are terrorists as well, most Tibetans want to be part of China, while Dalai and his cronies are trying to brainwash our Tibetan youths, they want to use self-immolation to paint the Chinese government as the oppressor of the religion, in fact CPC always allows the religion freedom for the Tibetans.

Many of those self-immolating youths are in fact some young monks with misconducted behavior as a buddhist monk, thus Dalai and his cronies seek their weakness to convince them that the self-immolation was morally right.

While those young monks see the self-immolation as a way to wash their sin, but they are just too naive, since they just become as the cannon fodder of the foreign anti-China organizations.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Huanghan is losing more support among the Han nationalists, all real Han nationalists love PRC and other Chinese minorities.

They won't blame the entire ethnic group just because of few radical terrorists.

 

[Ahiska]

These are terrorists as well, most Tibetans want to be part of China, while Dalai and his cronies are trying to brainwash our Tibetan youths, they want to use self-immolation to paint the Chinese government as the oppressor of the religion, in fact CPC always allows the religion freedom for the Tibetans.

Many of those self-immolating youths are in fact some young monks with misconducted behavior as a buddhist monk, thus Dalai and his cronies seek their weakness to convince them that the self-immolation was morally right.

While those young monks see the self-immolation as a way to wash their sin, but they are just too naive, since they just become as the cannon fodder of the foreign anti-China organizations.

I dont really care about the Tibetans i speak about peaceful uyguhrs who want to be independant without killing han chinese or use violance.Do those persons or people have in china a plattform to speak or is it banned in china?

Turkey has Kurds who also want to be "peacefully independent". Imagine if Kurds who migrate from eastern Anatolia into Istanbul claim the entire Turkey as their country. The Uyghur separatists are making up fake claims to own the entire Xinjiang province including the north (Dzhungharia) which is the native land of the Zunghars, not Uyghurs.

Ok but what is when they owuld ask that only the south should be independant would you say it is ok or would you say they are terrorist?
I also mean they would ask about it peacefully without violance against han chinese?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I dont really care about the Tibetans i speak about peaceful uyguhrs who want to be independant without killing han chinese or use violance.Do those persons or people have in china a plattform to speak or is it banned in china?


Ok but what is when they owuld ask that only the south should be independant would you say it is ok or would you say they are terrorist?
I also mean they would ask about it peacefully without violance against han chinese?

Most of Uighurs want to be part of China, that's why they are our brothers and sisters. Uighurs are part of Xinjiang, but Xinjiang also belongs to every other Chinese, including Hans and other minorities.

You should concern more about your own country's business, China respects Kazakhstan and wants to have a good relationship with your country.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

I dont really care about the Tibetans i speak about peaceful uyguhrs who want to be independant without killing han chinese or use violance.Do those persons or people have in china a plattform to speak or is it banned in china?


Ok but what is when they owuld ask that only the south should be independant would you say it is ok or would you say they are terrorist?
I also mean they would ask about it peacefully without violance against han chinese?

In practice, very few states, in normal circumstances can allow region to secede as it would lead to civil war and destruction of unity states, just like USSR. USA fought a civil war to prevent secession of the South.

Russia fought Chechen wars. Turk is fighting the Kurd. Pakistan is fighting Balichistan war. India is fighting war in NE. Sri Lanka fought Tamil. Spain fought Basque. Myanmar against their minorities.

The best hope for Uyghur is that Chinese central government fail. Then the regions can secede. But this is more likely to happen elsewhere like India or even USA than China.

 

[Wholegrain]

I dont really care about the Tibetans i speak about peaceful uyguhrs who want to be independant without killing han chinese or use violance.Do those persons or people have in china a plattform to speak or is it banned in china?


Ok but what is when they owuld ask that only the south should be independant would you say it is ok or would you say they are terrorist?
I also mean they would ask about it peacefully without violance against han chinese?

If Kurds peacefully asked for independence would you support it?

 

[Wholegrain]

"ChineseTiger1986 " is not chinese(he is manchu).

Chinese majority think qing is not china,

Qing is Colonists + Aggressor + Parasites,

They come from Siberia, invaded Northeast China.

They massacred Chinese people, destruction of Chinese culture, the eradication of Chinese dress, betray Chinese territory,They exploit Chinese people, tampering Chinese history books, insults Chinese leader Sun Yat-sen, abusive Chinese hero Yue Fei.Colluded with the Japanese carved Chinese.

Just for everyone else to see, the Manchu Prince Duan ordered extermination of all foreign "barbarians" in China, incuding Japanese and westerners. This sayina2012 is claiming that his people "colluded with the Japanese". Last time I checked Wang Jingwei was Han, not a Manchu.

sayina2012 is an angry teenager or young adult taking out his real life frustrations online. He probably doesn't have a life IMHO.

@Hu Songshan

sayina2012 hijacked this topic with abuseive posts towards towards ethnic minorities and racism. This thread needs to be cleared up.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Pan Turkism is a very dangerous ideology and seems that many Turkic are supporting it. The Turkic are blind to the fact that under Pan Turkism in Turkey, 99% of the Christian are exterminated. This is the reason today Turkey is 99.8 Islam, while Levant Arabic countries still have significant Christian. Other than that, Turkish Shia muslim also get shitt. The Han Chinese vs Pan Turkism towards minority is like God vs Satan.

Today Pan Turkic cult is inflicting certain elements of Uighur in Xinjiang. If Pan Turkism has their way, all minorities in Xinjiang will be in trouble. In fact Pan Turkism is hated even by many Turks themselves. Iranian elites are Azerbaijani Turks. Ayatollah Kamenei is Azerbaijani Turks. In the war of Nagono Karabak, Islam Iran stand firmly behind Christian Armenia against Islam Azerbaijan, while Turkey support Azerbaijan.

Nevertheless, it is clear that Turkey is emerging. Pan Turkism could become a fad in coming decades. With the rise of Turkey, prepare for more trouble in Xinjiang.

I have did some research in Turkic languages. Although it is a wild exaggeration that a Turk can understand one another from Yumen to adriatic sea, but the mutual intelligibility of Turkic language is far more higher than Sinitic lect such as Mandarin and Taiwanese.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Pan Turkism is a very dangerous ideology and seems that many Turkic are supporting it. The Turkic are blind to the fact that under Pan Turkism in Turkey, 99% of the Christian are exterminated. This is the reason today Turkey is 99.8 Islam, while Levant Arabic countries still have significant Christian. Other than that, Turkish Shia muslim also get shitt. The Han Chinese vs Pan Turkism towards minority is like God vs Satan.

Today Pan Turkic cult is inflicting certain elements of Uighur in Xinjiang. If Pan Turkism has their way, all minorities in Xinjiang will be in trouble. In fact Pan Turkism is hated even by many Turks themselves. Iranian elites are Azerbaijani Turks. Ayatollah Kamenei is Azerbaijani Turks. In the war of Nagono Karabak, Islam Iran stand firmly behind Christian Armenia against Islam Azerbaijan, while Turkey support Azerbaijan.

Nevertheless, it is clear that Turkey is emerging. Pan Turkism could become a fad in coming decades. With the rise of Turkey, prepare for more trouble in Xinjiang.

I have did some research in Turkic languages. Although it is a wild exaggeration that a Turk can understand one another from Yumen to adriatic sea, but the mutual intelligibility of Turkic language is far more higher than Sinitic lect such as Mandarin and Taiwanese.

Most of the Muslims are our friends, even many of them are our compatriots, but the Pan-Turkist radicals are always our enemies.

The Islamic world won't side with them to against China for their own racist agenda.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Manchurian girl?
GOOGLE manchu qing photo,SO terrible。


现在的满族演员都是汉八旗（包衣奴才）的后代。

The people from hundred years ago won't certainly meet our modern beauty standard, you can just google other Han women and European women about hundred years ago, i bet most of them won't look attractive to you either.

So most of Manchus are mixed today, and the Qing Dynasty is long gone, and i never glorify it.

Why still so obsessed with it?

 

[Ahiska]

Instead of keep dissing the Manchus, why don't spare more of your energy to condemn those separatists/terrorists?

Use your Huanghan chauvinism to attack those terrorists, i will be more pleased.

Thank you for your good answer and i will think about it for a bit its nice to write with someone who is polite.
And what does he have against manchus?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Manchu women from the late Qing Dynasty, they looked absolutely normal from the era they lived.

The Han women from the late Qing Dynasty, they didn't look much different from the Manchu women.

The European women from the 19th century, they were merely 5 feet tall and didn't look nearly as good as the modern Europeans.