Xinjiang Province: News & Discussions

[Scorpion666]

Go through the thread before posting, many people have raised concerns about the policy and have offered condemnation with regards to it.

so ?
i have a right to put my point across .....

 

[Kaniska]

A matter of one Muslim is matter of all Muslims and no body can be allowed to attack Muslims or ban them from Islamic things

The world is smart enough to understand how Islamic nations take care of their so called own people...Middle east war that is going is an classic example...So before saying that one Muslim matter is for all Muslims then why do not you sort out the problem created by your own Muslim breathern in your NW area and in Iraq,Syria and so many other places around the world where people are dying like anything becuase Muslims are fighting among themselves..

 

[Multani]

Officials in China's turbulent north-western region of Xinjiang are tightening restrictions on Muslim practices including mass prayers during Ramadan, according to government notices.

Government employees and Communist party members are banned from fasting, wearing veils or growing beards, said circulars posted on several official websites. Other measures - which appear to vary area to area - include forcing restaurants to maintain their usual opening hours instead of shifting them in light of dawn-to-dusk fasting.

Religious controls are usually stricter during Ramadan but experts say this year's are noticeably stronger and believe it is the first time they have been published rather than passed on orally.

A notice on the Zhaosu county website said that ideological education had to be stepped up in the face of "violent and disruptive activities by religious extremists, separatists and terrorists".

Last month saw the worst violence for a decade with a string of fatal attacks including an assault on police in Kashgar that left 16 officers dead and 16 wounded. No one has claimed responsibility but officials have blamed Uighur separatists.

Two of the towns that posted notices, Xinhe and Shaya, are near Kuqa, where 11 people died in suicide bombings and police shootings a few days later.

Around half the population of the vast region of Xinjiang is composed of Muslim Uighurs. Many resent the religious and cultural restrictions placed upon them and some seek an independent East Turkestan.

A note on the Shaya government website said propaganda and inspections should be stepped up during the period. "Fasting and participation in religious activities by party members and students is forbidden," it said.

The note called for stronger security at mosques, saying that officials should "prohibit playing recordings, videos or using loudspeakers to force people to take part in fasting. Work units or individuals are not allowed to hand out religious propaganda in public areas."

It said people were forbidden from forcing others to fast, attend religious activities or cover their face with veils. "Effective measures" should be taken to ensure people who already had beards and veils removed them, the note said, although it appears it may have been referring to officials and public sector workers.

A Zhaosu county website notice said officials should "try to reduce Ramadan's influence on society as much as possible".

It told them to "dissuade people from attending organised and planned worship in large groups in order to prevent mass incidents; prevent, guide and stop situations like closing restaurants during Ramadan, students attending religious activities, women going into mosques with veils and shops stopping selling wines and cigarettes".

"To the best of my knowledge it's the first time this has been explicitly spelled out in this way - normally these instructions are not put in writing," said Nicholas Bequelin, an expert on Xinjiang at Human Rights Watch. Measures such as the restrictions on restaurants were "definitely more intrusive than before," he said.

"What has been driving these increasingly invasive restrictions on religious and cultural behaviour is the fear that Uighurs are not loyal to the party and government," Bequelin said. "It used to be the case that some cadres in the 80s and early 90s were clearly religious. That's not possible any more because the state sees what it regards as ostentatious religiosity as an act of defiance towards the government."

China officials tighten restrictions on Muslim practices | World news | theguardian.com
China bans Muslims from fasting during Holy Ramadan

@LegionnairE do you don't give a crap about this too?

 

[-SINAN-]

How is this "Spitting on our face"? These are Chinese nationals we are talking about, the decisions taken by the state regarding its subjects cannot in any way, be a source of humiliation for us, or in anyway force us to reassess the nature of our interaction with them.

Everybody can make his own judgement. This is my judgement, you can think differently from me, no problem.

 

[BoQ77]

Will they force Muslim people eat non-Halal food ?

 

[-SINAN-]

Will they force Muslim people eat non-Halal food ?

Hunger striking Uighur prisoner in China insists innocence

Chinese authorities arrested a prominent Uyghur scholar for "separatist activities" has maintained his innocence from jail as his lawyer was allowed to meet him for the first time in months.

An economics professor at Beijing's Minzu University, Ilham Tohti, was taken to his native East Turkestan (Xinjiang) after being detained by the police in January.

Tohti's lawyer, Li Fangping, saw him on Thursday and learned that his client was put in shackles for three weeks upon arrival at the jail.

"He went on a hunger strike for some 10 days in January after they refused to provide him with Muslim food," Li told CNN on Friday. "They also denied him food for about 10 days in March after the Kunming incident."

"He looked okay but said he lost 16 kilograms and complained about ailments throughout the body, including in the liver, heart and eyes," Li added.

Li said Tohti emphasized that he has never supported separatism.

Hunger striking Uighur prisoner in China insists innocence | Asia-Pasific | Worldbulletin News

"He reiterated that he has advocated to improve the rule of law, democracy and ethnic harmony in Xinjiang," Li said.

Maya Wang, a Hong Kong-based researcher for Human Rights Watch said, "Unfortunately, the government is more interested in projecting what it wishes to do in Xinjiang rather than looking at what the real problems and ethnic grievances are in the region."

Seems like Chinese are already doing this. Some people in the world still living with medieval age mentality and says that they are going to surpass USA... just laughable.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Go through the thread before posting, many people have raised concerns about the policy and have offered condemnation with regards to it.

No more then couple Pak poster raises concerns , only trying to tell difference attitude and cultural difference , justifying / protect then things of china.

 

[pigtaker]

You can't do shıt and you know it. Only Chinese internet wariors words are big nothing more.

butt burning ? of course we can. we have tons of dollars no elsewhere to go, over capacity of arms manufaturing, cooperation of Russia and willpower, nothing is missing here. Turkey is gone, xinjiang will be quite forever.

 

[notsuperstitious]

I attribute this difference in attitude to a difference in culture, you have culture based on cut throat competition, monetary success and materialistic hoarding on the other hand, Asian cultures lay greater emphasis on communal well being, loyalty and family. Family not in the sense that you know family, to us everyone who is remotely associated with us is family and are thus our responsibility. We pool resources and share in each other's successes and failures, which is why even with over 600,000+ registered IDPs from NWA, we have a fraction of them staying in IDP camps, the rest have been accommodated by friends and family into their homes.
For us, success is not measured in euros, it is measured in happiness and wellbeing.

Sir while I do not disagree with what you have posted, I'd urge you to look at this slighly differently too. I mean look at our civic sense, and it can be argued that the west is much more community conscious and we are individualistic?

Also those eastern countries that have become rich, you will find them much more materialistic and competitive than most western countries, look at korea, singapore for example.

My point is, as always, its not black and white. Sorry for the digression.

 

[jkroo]

Hey, @Sinan could you please answer me the following questions?

I would like to learn something from @Sinan and hence ask you some questions:
1. When these news was released and are we well informed?
2. Do you know China government is secular or not?
3. Do you know a religious person can join CCP?
4. What do you think thegardien's reputation in China and in Turkey(including BBC)?
5. What's the arrangements of Turkey's secular government for Islamic festival?
6. Do you know how many ethnic groups in China who practice Islamic religion?
7. Do you know how many mosques in China and the rank of the total religious facilities?
8. Do you know China's religion policies?
9. What is the religious structure(people practice different religions) of Turkey and do you know the Chinese?
Thank you in advance.

Talk again, when you do something as China besides barking on internet forum sites.

 

[Spring Onion]

Now there is friendship, both sides respects to each other.

And there is something else.... when one side spits on your face, but you still love them....

1. How it is spitting on our face? have they put the ban on our citizens or theirs?

2. Now coming to what some people are expecting form us then iw ill say


A. Being friend of China is one thing and raising our voice for Muslim rights is another.

Being Muslims we should and we can only condemn this act of China just like we do when some other country put such unjustified bans. Now if you are expecting us to cut off diplomatic ties with China or trade or defence well thats STUPID

 

[Ghostwhowalks]

posting here after a long time. I said this before and I will say it again. Chinese HATE muslims. Period. Their "friendship" with Pak is just one of convenience to contain India. So long as Pak keeps India occupied, China can concentrate on Russia, US and Japan. China has only one policy- China first- and they will do what it takes to achieve that. Muslims and their way of life is a threat to the Chinese identity and the CCP will leave no stone unturned to crush them.

 

[TaiShang]

Hey, @Sinan could you please answer me the following questions?

My dear friend @jkroo , the best policy is simply remain indifferent to threads that do not add value to our discussion of China's great revival and are designed as flame-makers.

It is good to see that so far this thread is limited to discussion between non Chinese members. Should stay that way. As we ignore this kind of threads often started by anti-China members, they will quietly revert back to their own quarters.

Apparently, our indifference to these people's own problems does not teach a lesson. So, we can better stop feeding them here on our own section as probably we will never bother to even worry about their own particular problems, which are many. They may keep worrying about ours -- real and imaginary.

There will be, believe me, no constructive discussion, and no body will change their mind. Our best response should be our actions that speak for themselves.

I, therefore, suggest all good friends from the Greater China and elsewhere, to ignore such threads, including this one. That's possibly the heaviest blow to a troll and other programmed (default) China-haters.

Let's make indiffference a policy.

Haters do hating while doers do doing



@cirr , @Mao1949 , @Hu Songshan , @Chinese Century , @Raphael , @kalu_miah , @Jlaw , @Kiss_of_the_Dragon , @Edison Chen , @Nan Yang , @rcrmj , @cirr , @Obambam , @xunzi ,@Chinese-Dragon , @terranMarine , @senheiser , @tranquilium , @kankan326

(I possibly miss out many names; but, this message is basically to all friends of China)

 

[TaiShang]

Xinjiang to become core zone on the Silk Road Economic Belt
By Zhang Lulu
June 30, 2014

Zhang Chunxian, Party Secretary of the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, addressed an international seminar on the Silk Road Economic Belt held in Urumqi, the capital city of Xinjiang, from June 26 to 27. [Photo/China.org.cn]

Chinese President Xi Jinping proposed the Silk Road Economic Belt during his central-Asian tour last year. Bordering central Asia and as a gateway to Eurasia, west China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region is aiming to become the core zone on the Silk Road Economic Belt.

Zhang Chunxian, the Party Secretary of Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, addressed an international seminar on the Silk Road Economic Belt held in Urumqi, capital city of Xinjiang, from June 26 to 27.

Zhang said in his speech that Xinjiang will "make full use of its geographical and cultural advantages, further open up and make efforts to act as the main force and vanguard in building the Silk Road Economic Belt."

Zhang Chunlin, director of the Xinjiang Development and Reform Commission gives an interview with China.org.cn on the sidelines of the Silk Road Economic Belt International Seminar held in Urumqi, capital city of Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region on June 26. [China.org.cn/Zhang Lulu]

Xinjiang is aiming to become a traffic hub, a commercial logistics center, a financial center, a cultural, scientific and educational center, and a medical service center in the region, as well as a large-scale national oil and gas production, processing and reserve base, a large-scale coal, coal power and coal chemical base, a large wind power base and a national energy resource corridor, Zhang said.

Traffic and trade

With two railway ports already in full operation, Xinjiang will build four more to connect the region with the Eurasian continent by 2020, Zhang Chunlin, director of the Xinjiang Development and Reform Commission, said.

Xinjiang now boasts 16 airports, and the region will see an increase of four to six new airports and some others will be renovated or expanded in the following three years.

Based on the three existing bonded zones in its Dzungarian Gate, Kashgar, and Khorgos, the heartland of Eurasia will further build five other bonded zones, which will lay a solid foundation for the negotiations of the long-anticipated China-Central Asia free trade area, Zhang Chunlin said.

The five ports will look to Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Russia, Central and Western Asia and Europe at large.

Anti-terrorism

Arrays of terrorist attacks have taken place in Xinjiang in the past year. In response, China has launched a severe anti-terrorism campaign.

"Anti-terrorism campaign and ensuring social stability will exert a positive role on the development of the Silk Road Economic Belt," Zhang Chunlin said.

"Currently terrorism has not had any impact on the key projects in the region. For example, eight large-scale state-owned enterprises are still investing in the coal electricity industry in the region," Zhang said.

The CPC Central Committee held a key conference on Xinjiang at the end of May, encouraging Xinjiang to further open up and become the core zone on the Silk Road Economic Belt.

 

[Edison Chen]

@TaiShang

Hey bro, that's exactly what I am thinking now, we can never reach a consensus with those people. It's good to keep away from it.