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[Ultima Thule]

Oh gotcha so defending China but how you know about the features of Chinese jet without having it ???

I am not defending anyone i am just stating a fact, whole world know and accept that J-20 is stealth jet, only Indian is on a delusional mode, do you know what is the plan-form alignment is for stealth jet, do research before you post, genral information of stealth is on the net, and J-20 is fit in stealth category

 

[Crixus]

You are just passing a statement , I not saying Chinese planes are not capable but saying whole world is accepting tell me how many countries in the world uses that aircraft ...and how many features of stealth the aircraft has shown and proved .
The fact is even after having a stealth fighter they are exporting a Su 35 from Russia , you seems educated you can deduce your own conclusions from it

Why a country after have a stealth fighter still importing a lower grade fighter ...............

I am not defending anyone i am just stating a fact, whole world know and accept that J-20 is stealth jet, only Indian is on a delusional mode, do you know what is the plan-form alignment is for stealth jet, do research before you post, genral information of stealth is on the net, and J-20 is fit in stealth category

 

[mig25]

We here in the USA are not concerned about your line-up.

We dont intend to fight Pakistani Americans in America

 

[Ultima Thule]

You are just passing a statement , I not saying Chinese planes are not capable but saying whole world is accepting tell me how many countries in the world uses that aircraft ...and how many features of stealth the aircraft has shown and proved .
The fact is even after having a stealth fighter they are exporting a Su 35 from Russia , you seems educated you can deduce your own conclusions from it

Why a country after have a stealth fighter still exporting a lower grade fighter ...............

First tell me why Countries like USA/Russia/China developing and develop stealth jet, if you will give that of my question i will give you rest of your query

 

[Joe1351]

During war games USAF and others were disappointed in how they were used.

Source?

 

[Crixus]

Only US has stealth in real sense .... others are just flimsy

I am not questioning you , I am just asking the basis of argument

First tell me why Countries like USA/Russia/China developing and develop stealth jet, if you will give that of my question i will give you rest of your query

 

[PakFactor]

We here in the USA are not concerned about your line-up.

He’s listing BVRs as if PAF wouldn’t have any or any other AFs around.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Only US has stealth in real sense .... others are just flimsy

I am not questioning you , I am just asking the basis of argument

No stealth jets are 100% perfect they all have all pros and cons, but tell us why they developing stealth jet if 4th and 4.5th jet for enough for them and you and why you started the project of AMCA if you thinks stealth is useless???

 

[BHarwana]

So we wasted a ton of money for nothing then.. You also claimed that the MKIs cannot carry jammers since they also jam the radar of the MKI carrying it. So we are only left with MIG21s and Mirages. The LCAs need a trailer to move around so we remain screwed!

Why did you used Mirage 2000 for balakot & not used Su30MKI? Cause Su30MKI are not good. Why do you think Abhinandan was chasing in Mig21 & not in a SU30MKI? SU30MKI is an air superiority fighter & yet Mig21 was used. why? cause PAF fired a volley of AIM 120 & all SU30MKI were busy saving their self & thus jamming their own RADARS which made them RADAR blind them selves. My friend everyone knows the issue with your SU30MKI & your airforce planner litterally ******up with your SU30MKI. Those are useless jets. The Russian SU30 are still better than your SU30MKI cause they can fight & yours can't
Rafale were bought for nuclear missile delivery & that is their role nothing else. 36 Rafale is a nuclear deterrent Package & at the moment you only have 5 of them, of which 2 are double seat & 3 are single seat. Means what? It means that 2 will carry nuclear deliver & 3 will move as their Air cover. So with 5 Rafale you have achieved a capability to deliver 2 nuclear bombs & you still have to make & integrate those bombs your self french can't sell you those nuclear missiles. If India had bought 120 Rafale then it was a problem but with 36 Rafale forget China you still can't deter PAF. Pakistan has F16s which are at power with Rafale at this moment. The range of AIM120 is higher than meteor.

 

[Crixus]

AMCA is going to be a dabba and money pit , with exposed engines it will be easily deducted and no info about the sensor fusion , you think even Russia failed to develop a stealth fighter and India will develop one .

HAL struggled with a basic 4th Gen fighter not sure with what kind of magic they will develop a stealth fighter

In India 's case LCA MK 2 is best option .......

No stealth jets are 100% perfect they all have all pros and cons, but tell us why they developing stealth jet if 4th and 4.5th jet for enough for them and you and why you started the project of AMCA if you thinks stealth is useless???

 

[PradoTLC]

It has been corrected with addition of astra mk1 and r-77-1.In future astra mk2 and derby ER maybe added if needed.PAF cant really face 260 MKIs in a war,bulk of it will be decimated within 72 hours,though we will take losses.The only aircraft of value is the f-16.The jf-17 current versions are 3rd gen fighters used mostly for number filling and propaganda.Still waiting to see what blk 3 brings.Rest are museum aircraft.
We couldnt escalate the conflict last time due to public pressure to get abhinandan back and the us and arabs got involved in the process,but we are preparing for the next big terror attack .This time we go in with rafales which they can't stop either with aircraft or with their hq-9/hq-16 and use not a penetrator warhead but a HE warhead to collapse the whole structure to leave no doubt.
Then if needed we will escalate.The S-400 will make the PAF awacs unable to operate as they can be targeted from max range (400 km).The new Barak-8 is also being inducted.Tejas is replacing the last migs.MKIS have the new missiles.By 2022 all rafales(end of 2021) and s-400 will be inducted.We are inducting 200 air launched brahmos and 100 SCALP ALCM for standoff strikes other than LGBs and glide bombs like spice.Overall the decade long inertia under UPA government has ended.In 2 years from now we will be dominant position.By 2025 our 1st phase modernization will be complete and there will be nowhere for them to hide.They have already cut down sortie rate due to fuel shortage and tight budgets.Unless they can crash procure and operationalize a 5th gen fighter by 2022,PAF is done for.Its just a matter of when the next big terror attack gets through.Kadi ninda is forgotten past now.Any major terror attack will be responded to by an attack on mainland pak soil.That is new doctrine.And IAF is now lead agency for that,not army.

Talk is cheap... demonstrate your abilities.. so far you have impressed no one..

 

[mig25]

Why did you used Mirage 2000 for balakot & not used Su30MKI? Cause Su30MKI are not good. Why do you think Abhinandan was chasing in Mig21 & not in a SU30MKI? SU30MKI is an air superiority fighter & yet Mig21 was used. why? cause PAF fired a volley of AIM 120 & all SU30MKI were busy saving their self & thus jamming their own RADARS which made them RADAR blind them selves. My friend everyone knows the issue with your SU30MKI & your airforce planner litterally ******up with your SU30MKI. Those are useless jets. The Russian SU30 are still better than your SU30MKI cause they can fight & yours can't

I'm not sure if you are ill informed or if you are trolling. Your lack of knowledge in these matters along with your weird assumptions and deductions are cringe worthy and laughable.

 

[BHarwana]

I'm not sure if you are ill informed or if you are trolling. Your lack of knowledge in these matters along with your weird assumptions and deductions are cringe worthy and laughable.

You can only laugh cause I stated facts & you didn't like them at all, I know but that is the truth. Egypt can buy Rafale but they chose Su35 over it in their next procurement why? Cause Rafale is good for certain mission & bad for others. India bought Rafale cause France is the only country that will allow India to tweak their Rafale & make it nuclear delivery systems, rest of the jet suppliers will not allow it that is why India bought Rafale & rejected the better platforms out there. You don't have a air nuclear delivery platform. India never made a air to surface nuclear missile for SU30MKI why? cause they can't do the job. India never bought high numbers of Rafales why cause India wanted to use it as a package for certain purposes.
If I am wrong you tell me why India just bought 36 Rafale & not more. The next order was given to Russia for Mig29 & not Rafale or Su30MKI? My friend wake up. Some one literally ruined your Air force. Who ever did it he did it out of stupidity or corruption but it is done. Su30 is a beautiful jet I like it but Su30MKI is a disaster & it is not Russian fault but Indian fault purely. R&D has many issues & what India did wrong was they kept on moving forward with their mistake. You should be thankful that there was no India Pakistan large scale war or the reality would have been very different today for you if you had placed all your bets on Su30MKI.

 

[Crixus]

He seems watching Abhijeet Iyar too much ...after his time in jail his wiring get disturbed

I'm not sure if you are ill informed or if you are trolling. Your lack of knowledge in these matters along with your weird assumptions and deductions are cringe worthy and laughable.

 

[mig25]

Cause Rafale is good for certain mission & bad for others.

Can you explain on what missions the Rafale is bad?

India never made a air to surface nuclear missile for SU30MKI why? cause they can't do the job

BrahMos.

You don't have a air nuclear delivery platform.

MIRAGE, MKI and the JAG. Now Rafale

The next order was given to Russia for Mig29 & not Rafale or Su30MKI?

The Mig29s are already manufactured units put in storage. It's faster to get them updated and delivered. India has placed an order for replacing crashed MKIs.

Su30 is a beautiful jet I like it but Su30MKI is a disaster & it is not Russian fault but Indian fault purely.

IAF disagrees. 272 Aircraft! when India had options to buy f16s and f18s 10 years ago.