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Comparing To Indian Rafale Jets, Pakistani Lawmaker Questions The Logic To Acquire Chinese J-10C Fighter

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Hello. The senator of Pakistan already question why the Pakistan government acquire the J-10C. How can it not be confirmed?

Bro, everything is too early. News about Pakistan buys 36 J-10 starting in 2006. And now is 2021.
Every few years, there is a new article about the J-10 agreement, and repeats.

Do not rush to conclude, time will answer
 
PAF is a proffesional force, they should know and can make better judgements than regular folks

Don't think even PAF is expecting project azm to go anywhere
Just because project azm is quiet means nothing is happening. Also j10c paf has said nothing. So notjing is happening.
This has to be the most pathetic article written by an Indian. What losers we have as enemies
 
So a lawmaker is equivalent to the Chief of Air Staff. Epic
 
Wonder if senator can differentiate between F-16 and Mig-21
 
Before rafales SU-30 and mirage2000 were 4.5 generation fighters, teja aka samosa is way better then SU-30s and Mirage2k , then what was the purpose of IAF getting another 4.5 generation fighter like rafales ? Is that mean Current fleet of SU-30s Mirages and tejas are junk ??
 
I think PAF should ask the honorable senator before every purchase for he knows about airforce more than the people in airforce. Might as well ask chauffeurs and cooks of National assembly.

This is the dilemma of Pakistan, where a butcher even does not know/memorize the 'takbeer' while performing 'halal/zabeeha' which is his duty; but he has a very vision about; how to play a shot in the international match when Baber Azam/Rizwan failed to connect the ball OR even who should be the DGISI and procedure to appoint him constitutionally.
First, we have to be concentrated on our professions in a professional manner.
 
Before rafales SU-30 and mirage2000 were 4.5 generation fighters, teja aka samosa is way better then SU-30s and Mirage2k , then what was the purpose of IAF getting another 4.5 generation fighter like rafales ? Is that mean Current fleet of SU-30s Mirages and tejas are junk ??
indians are idiots!

they lie because they know they are weak shits!
 
Salaam

What makes the Senator think he knows better than the PAF that has likely evaluated both? More importantly, even if has some unique insight into the whole thing, Twitter seems hardly the suitable platform for airing such opinions by a sitting senator.
 
Rafale... the new god. Pajeet savior.

Who the f is senator? He doesn't know sh*t about defence/aviation related matters. His opinion doesn't matter.
 
I agree with senator j 10 has limitations to compete against rafale dont be patwari what ever paf chooses

paf made big blinders in past by not buyong bvr in kargil war
 
When Pakistan and China first signed their joint production deal for JF-17 fighters, it was touted as a ground-breaking venture that would challenge India’s top-of-line fighter aircraft.

Even though the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has a sizeable fleet of JF-17 Thunder, the service is set to induct another Chinese-made jet, J-10C, according to speculations.

Earlier this year, reports had emerged indicating that Pakistan was all set to receive 36 J-10C semi-stealth 4.5 generation aircraft from China, but there was no official confirmation on that.


J-10C
A Chinese J-10C. (via Twitter)
An independent research platform, House for Strategic & International Affairs (HSIA), had in July posted on Twitter that “Pakistan is set to receive 36 J-10C semi-stealth, 4.5 gen advanced fighter Jets from China by the end of 2021.”

Reports had also emerged about Pakistan’s disenchantment with the existing JF-17s due to engine-related inefficiencies that hadn’t been resolved by China to date.


It could be speculated that Pakistan’s dissatisfaction with its ambitious JF-17 fighters which reportedly have significant shortcomings could be the reason for Pakistan buying new fighters of a different class from China.

With the delivery of the French-made Rafale jets to India nearing completion, the need to upgrade PAF’s fleet of fighter aircraft must have been felt by Islamabad that strives to achieve a balance of power in South Asia.






While Pakistan and China are yet to formally declare the deal for J-10 fighters, a prominent senator in the country has already questioned the aircraft.

Rafale F4
The Rafale F4. (Image: Dassault Aviation)
Dr. Afnan Ullah Khan tweeted – he did not “understand the logic behind buying J-10C”. The J-10C is the newest variant of the J-10 and entered service with the PLAAF in 2018.

Khan wrote Pakistan already had an aircraft similar to the J-10, referring to the F-16. He reasoned that the J-10C was not “as good as the Rafale”, which is in service with the Indian Air Force.






The senator tweeted: I don’t understand the logic behind buying J-10C. We already have a fighter (F-16) which is in the similar class and generation. I don’t think J-10C is as good as Rafale also. We should have invested this money in building Project Azm and enhancing JF-17 capabilities.

Last year, during Shaheen IX military drills, Pakistani and Chinese air forces focused on large-scale aerial warfare; more than 200 sorties were carried out by both sides, according to Global Times. The new J-10Cs had taken part in the exercise alongside Su-30s, JF-17s and J-11Bs.

At the time, a Chinese Aviation expert had told the Global Times that the J-10Cs and J-11Bs were very suitable for simulating Indian fighters in mock battles.

Can J-10C Make A Difference?
The J-10, called Firebird by NATO is a single-engine, lightweight multirole fighter that can operate in all weather conditions. It was built for People’s Liberation Army Air Force strike missions and air-to-air warfare.

The J-10 has a huge delta wing, similar to the French Mirage fighters, but it also has two canards directly behind the cockpit for greater maneuverability. According to National Interest, the armament payload is identical to that of the MiG-29 and F-16, with three weapon pylons on each wing and three on the belly.

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J-10C (via Twitter)
According to Global Times, the J-10C, the most recent and advanced variant, just received a domestically produced WS-10 Taihang engine and made its first public appearance in a live-fire training session after entering service with the PLA Air Force.

The jet with a Taihang engine was first revealed in a video produced by the aircraft’s developer in March 2020. The J-10C can fire the new Chinese air-to-air missiles, which include several advanced long-range active-radar homing designs, in addition to enhanced avionics such as the indigenous AESA fire-control radar and the imaging infrared seeker (IIR) PL-10. It is now also reportedly able to carry the long-range PL-15 missiles.

All these capabilities make the J-10C a modern fighter jet. After being outfitted with the indigenous engines, it has a better combat readiness comparable to the fighters of this class, especially the Rafales that Pakistan’s arch-rival India possesses.

How J-10C Could Solve PAF’s Problems
Pakistan has had its own share of problems with the JF-17 fighters. The engines of this fighter, the RD-93, emit black smoke which could make it an easy target for the enemy in case of close aerial combat. In a potential dogfight with Indian fighter jets, the JF-17 could easily be shot down by the former.

Even though China has taken note of the engine-related concerns and has tried to upgrade it, the fact that the spare parts and other assistance from Russian manufacturers have remained inaccessible. China is now building its own Guizhou WS-13 Taishan which will replace the Russian RD-93. However, it still remains a pipedream and that leaves the Pakistani Air Force in the lurch.

Further, the J-10C aircraft which are similar to the American F-16s that Pakistan currently operates alongside the JF-17 has a better ordnance-carrying capacity and comes with fewer riders.

CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder - Wikipedia
Pakistan Air Force JF-17 (via Wikipedia)
“Pakistan Air Force operates F-16’s from the United States and JF-17’s from China. F-16’s are better than JF-17’s in weapons carrying capacity, better radars, powerful engine, flight characteristics and is overall very superior. The US sells F-16 with conditions to Pakistan, including its use against India.

J-10C is comparable to the F-16 models, which Pakistan currently operates, and the all-weather friend China sells weapons to Pakistan with no strings attached. Pakistan has tried to buy the Russian Su-27 derivatives and MiG-29’s without success.

J-10C is the only option left for Pakistan, and as per the news reports, it is being exercised. J-10C gives operational flexibility to PAF against its threats without restrictions and intrusive inspections,” said Joseph P. Chacko, a military author, columnist, and analyst told The EurAsian Times.

Pakistan’s military policy as well as its acquisition is largely influenced by that of India’s. As it seeks to modernize its fleet and create a meaningful deterrence against India, especially after the dogfight that the two Air Forces were engaged in after the February 2019 Balakot strikes, the Chinese J-10C could prove to be a significant addition.





Indians are loosing the plot and sleep over it. Do your research first before writing an article. Engine is Russian not a Chinese one but Indians have to have some negative opinion about Pakistan its in their up bringing.
 
Rafale... the new god. Pajeet savior.

Who the f is senator? He doesn't know sh*t about defence/aviation related matters. His opinion doesn't matter.
He is from shitt league non league
 
A properganda rag from India no need to pay any attention.
 
Eurasia Times as credible as Modi making it to the centre fold of Playgirl Magazine.
Nonetheless, pity no law maker or Think Tank in India has the courage or ability to question as what is the use of having over 250 SU-30s when Modi was crying for a few Rafales or how did the IAF single handidly managed to turn this top of the line Russian fighter from Raptor of East into Rabbit of Asia. Indian also use to boast that they know F-16 inside out and have rejected the most advanced version of the Viper, but when the test came it was the old version which brought IAF on it's knees.
The nightmare for Indians now is..... Who would be flying those J-10 s. 😅
 
Does the senator have a memory lapse? What other option can Pakistan avail?

Rafales? The French are firmly against Pakistan despite having decades of cooperation, all based on targeting Pakistan ferocious backlash on France's hypocrisy of press freedom while insulting Islam. Then there is FATF which the French use as a political-financial weapon against those who oppose their political stance.

Eurofighter? Two major partners in this fighter project are either deceptively or passively against selling any weapons to Pakistan. It is because they're firmly in America's camp.

Vipers/Fighting-Falcons? The American government has already refused to provide Pakistan F-16s on the FMS basis. Meaning Pakistan has to pay out of its own pocket for the fighters. Pakistan isn't stupid to do this, for the last time Pakistan paid in full for fighters from America, it was brazenly robbed of it's paid for fighters and the money it used to pay. Those who still argue for America being fair, I direct your attention to the recent American hypocrisy where it prohibited Turkey from obtaining engine licenses for sale of T-129 to Pakistan, but then permitted sale of the same T-129 gunship for sale to Philippines.

So I am bemused at this so-called senator of Pakistan, who seems clueless on the geopolitics in our times. It seems that Pakistanis have a habit of electing crooked, corrupt and incompetent politicians to run their country. It's an embarrassment to see such ineptness elected officials, supposedly there to govern the second largest Muslim populated country, on the planet.
 
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