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Rafale vs Rafale: Why Indian Rafale Jets Can ‘Outflank’ Egyptian, Qatari & Even The French Air Force Warplanes?

Totally agree with "" RoadRunner401 SENIOR MEMBER
""Once any weapon system enters India, It becomes "Game changer". I am willing to bet F22 Raptor is no match to Indian Migs.""
Very true. Indian says anything "Made by India" which fly in the air ( even a kite, pattang) is better than Su57 JF17 , J20 and F22. Indian are LIAR and master in false news and propagenda in the world.
 
Dassault Aviation’s Rafale Fighter Jets Hogged Global Limelight In 2020 But Failed To Secure Any Deal-January 8, 2021, By Aakriti Sharma( Delhi,India).

BON PLAN said "" Just after the India Mirage 2000 purchase, we received in France some indian pilots to train them.The french teacher were very surprised of their level. On all fields""
crankthatskunk SENIOR MEMBER wrote ""They(Indian) don't know how to use them( any jet fighters""

Even after training Indian pilot get scared, loose brain, when flying jet fighter in the air, all alone. BUT Pakistani pilots are fully confident because of ""God/Allah support with them and are fully trained""
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Top 10 most advanced fighter jets in 2020

1.Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II (USA)
2. Sukhoi Su-57
3. Chengdu J-20 (China)
4. Shenyang FC-31 (China)
5. Mitsubishi X-2 Shinshin (Japan)
6. Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor
7. Eurofighter Typhoon
8. JF-17 Thunder Block3
9. McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle
10. Dassault Rafale
J17 in the 10...... :crazy:
non FOC F-35, non IOC Su-57, fully unkwown J-20, only air test bed FC3, only air test bed X-2 (the last without ANY weapon system) ... :dance3:
F22 only 6th.... 🤣

all is said : Complete load of BS.
So Indian Rafale are better then in use by French airforce!? :D :omghaha:
It's true. The indian Rafale are, so far, the well equipped.
 
Rafale vs Rafale: Why Indian Rafale Jets Can ‘Outflank’ Egyptian, Qatari & Even The French Air Force Warplanes?

The Rafale guided by Indian indigenous GPS, for which the Rafale has installed with upgraded Sigma 95N. It is a high-performance navigation system designed for most demanding aeronautic applications that require excellent navigation and guidance accuracy.


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Mansij Asthana

At a time when the Indian Air Force (IAF) was contemplating on modernising its somewhat, deserted aerial squadrons of modern fighters jets amid increasing threats from Iron “Brothers” Pakistan and China, it appeared that French President Emmanuel Macron held the key to fulfilling that potential.

With the billion-dollar deal to acquire potential new fighters under IAF’s Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) contract looming in the air, there was no shortage of bidders with the US F-16s along with Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornets, Eurofighter Typhoons, Russia’s MiG-35 and Sweden’s Saab Gripens jets looking to clinch the lucrative deal.
However, it was France’ crown jewel Dassault Aviation’s – Rafale fighter jets that left everyone else biting the dust, as they jolted their way to secure the deal to provide Indian Air Force with a modern fleet of fighter jets to defend their borders from rising regional threats.
Are Indian Rafales Better Than Others?
While the 4.5 generation Rafale jets, deployed by the likes of Egypt, Qatar and France itself, have an impressive combat history in providing air superiority, the ones exported to India are considered an edge above the rest.
According to the Indian Bureau of American financial and business news website, Business Insider, France has made special additions to the standard Rafales as per the requirements laid down by the IAF which helped Dassault Aviation clinch the deal.
“Already countries like France and Egypt have been operating Rafale jets, those that have been supplied to India are more sophisticated and highly customized to meet the specific needs that IAF has today. The pilots can significantly benefit from the helmet-mounted sights and targeting systems and can shoot off the weapons with lightning speed,” said Business Insider.
Unlike Egypt, which sits on a region linking northeast Africa and the Middle East, essentially dealing with a hot desert climate, the battle conditions of India are affected by a varied pattern of weather which is duly affected by the Himalayas and the Thar desert.
With both of India’s volatile borders with China and Pakistan placed in the regions of Ladakh and Kashmir with sub-zero temperatures, France had to add something extra to Indian fighter jets that was not there in any other Rafales – be it Egyptian, Qatari or even the French Air Force.
“Specially tailored for the IAF, the Rafale jets have cold engine start capability to operate from high-altitude bases including Leh, radar warning receivers, flight data recorders with storage for 10 hours of data, infrared search and track systems” according to an editorial by the Hindustan Times.
Moreover, in a bid to thwart incoming missile attacks Indian Rafales are being set up with X-Guard fiber-optic towed decoy system, which enables the aircraft to counter air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles.
“Each aircraft carries two X-Guard towed decoys and can be released when the aircraft approaches a saturated area or when a threat is detected. The most suitable countermeasure is transmitted to the X-Guard by the aircraft’s electronic countermeasures system. The fibre-optic connection to the aircraft allows accurate jamming.”
Why Are Indian Rafales Better?
One of the significant reasons behind the superiority of the Indian Rafales over their Qatari or Egyptian counterparts can also be tethered down to the difference in overall requirements.
While Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi felt his homeland’s dire need for a modern fighter to fly alongside Su-30MKI, MiG 29, Mirage-2000 and indigenously built HAL Tejas, budget-strapped Egypt was a surprise buyer for the Rafales.
Traditionally being the United States’ most dependable arms customer, Egyptian Air Force already has a flock of as many as 230 F-16 fighter jets, the highest in the African region.
The purchase of 24 Rafales worth 5.9 billion dollars was more than enough, with there being no need for them to be modified to counter insurgencies on the ground. According to Anthony Cordesman, Chair in Strategy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies,

On the other hand, India has not needed Rafales anymore than they do now especially with military stand-off it is currently embroiled with neighbours China in Eastern Ladakh.
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The Rafale is one of the most expensive aircraft in the international market. India’s deal of 36 jets is worth Rs. 60,000 crores.
As a matter of fact, the IAF pressed on for the late additions to the new fighter jets which included ‘Hammer’ precision-guided munitions and advanced navigation systems, as confirmed by an Indian defence expert who did not wish to be named.

The Rafale guided by Indian indigenous GPS, i.e., IRNSS (Indian regional navigation satellite system), for which the Rafale has installed with upgraded Sigma 95N. It is a high-performance navigation system designed for most demanding aeronautic applications that require excellent navigation and guidance accuracy.”
Moreover, according to an official source, there are currently 13 India Specific Enhancement (ISE) capabilities sought by the IAF, which will be incorporated in batches after April 2022.
“After the 36th jet is delivered, the first 35 aircraft would be modified in India by Dassault Aviation at the rate of seven aircraft a month so that all 36 aircraft would be of the same capability by September 2022,” said the official.



We have customised spectra by widening it's frequency band higher side as well as lower side. It's software with more than 10 million codes was re written. This was one time cost and made our deal somewhere between 600 million to 1 BN USD costlier. This is like MKI. When Russian airforce bought Su 30' they selected the configuration of IAF MKI.
 
Full spectrum bull shit my dear.
The french laws are among the hardest of the world for kickbacks. Please don't compare France with CHina or Pak.
Before India Dassault (with 2 x "s") sold the Rafale to Egypt and Qatar. Qatar added a follow on order.
Now it's Greece.
Tomorrow Switzerland.

But French people are not famous for abiding by law, am I correct? Are you just writing the strictest laws and expecting them to be automatically followed? I am pretty sure that it is not that easy.

If people over the world, especially in the Western world, can abide by law just like the Chinese or East Asian, there would be no 20 millions people infected with Covid by now.

Not sure about French, but kickbacks is an integral part of Germany's corporate culture. Almost all big German companies, from Siemens to Thyssen Krupp, are famous for kickbacks and bribes to get contract.
 
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India won't buy anything less than best. US offered India F21 , the best of F16 Family with many F-35 features. While some countries are bagging outdated F16, we rejected the best.
 
India won't buy anything less than best. US offered India F21 , the best of F16 Family with many F-35 features. While some countries are bagging outdated F16, we rejected the best.

LOL that outdated F16s shot down your Su30 and upgraded Mig21. And those outdated F16s scares you so much that India didn't had balls to strike back when PAF pounded you both in Air and on ground. And not to forget how much your govt cry in front of US when ever Pakistan procurement them from them.
 
J17 in the 10...... :crazy:
non FOC F-35, non IOC Su-57, fully unkwown J-20, only air test bed FC3, only air test bed X-2 (the last without
F22 only 6th....
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I am sorry to state that I took those list from a popular website. I did not make the list.It could be wrong or right ??
 
plzzzzz not this holy shit logic again.... first Su30MKI were better than all SU30 versions even the ones the russians could possibly dream of... lol the raptor of east ... crap.. now again with these rafs.... wats with this complex these indians have... and why they think, that baseless bullshit ranting about a machine, somehow impacts the machine performance... its not a bollywood movie, where normal common man becomes some superhero coz bad guy bullied his papa, and mama says tu baray ho kar apne papa ka badla laay ga... fucked up logic...
 
It's true. The indian Rafale are, so far, the well equipped.
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No. Rafale are not better anymore . It has been rejected by French Air Force. France air force is using only 99 Rafale now. French pilot did not like it. France is jointly making and using "" Eurofighter Typhoon"" a twin-engine, canard delta wing, multirole fighter. I learned that France is also making an a new 6th Gen. jet fighter in future .
 
LOL that outdated F16s shot down your Su30 and upgraded Mig21. And those outdated F16s scares you so much that India didn't had balls to strike back when PAF pounded you both in Air and on ground. And not to forget how much your govt cry in front of US when ever Pakistan procurement them from them.

But they didn't appear to connter M2000 when we came 80 km inside to to bomb your trees.
 
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