World Bank halts processes started by India, Pakistan under Indus Waters Treaty

[Photon]

Hmm, the most feeble attempt to appear as if you are in a comfortable position. But unfortunately for you, it does not seem to jive when the facts. Here are the historical facts from the very birth days:

1. india was broken into 2 nations from the very onset even though the majority of the population (hindu) voted against partition.
2. Right after birth, AJK (what you call Azad Kashmir) was snatched away from india.
3. india was Humiliated by China in 1962.
4. Pakistan and india had a stalemate with Pakistan maintaining a high upper hand thanks to air superiority.
5. Civil war of 1971 is the only one that india can claim to have won due to half of he Pakistan military (bengalis) having rebelled. But even that resulted in the 3 splits in india.
6. Kargil, 5000+ dead indians and still couldn't take the highest peak from us.

And now for a reality check on the dams; if Pakistan decides engage in bombarding the indian dams, what can india do? Nothing. If india can't even conduct a simple sirjikal strike in spite of your claim that we are pumping in freedom fighters in kashmir and had to make a laughable fake claim, what can india possibly do if we engage in calculated bombing indian of your dams? Sending in freedom fighters (as per your own claim) is far worse than bombing dams.

Face the cold hard facts; there is a reason why modi has been all words and no action, be it sirjikal strikes or stopping our water. because he knows all too well that the consequences will be fatal for india.

Oh btw, you do realize that the indian economy will be dwarfed thanks to CPEC and the continued military tensions, right? One of india's many many acheilies heels.

LOL.. So many delusions in one single post is a rarity.

But of jewel of your post is

"Oh btw, you do realize that the indian economy will be dwarfed thanks to CPEC"

India is a $2500 billion economy and conservative estimates take it too $43 trillion by 2050. It will be dwarfed by $50 billion investment /loan.

I don't weather to laugh at you or weap for you.

 

[GumNaam]

LOL.. So many delusions in one single post is a rarity.

But of jewel of your post is

"Oh btw, you do realize that the indian economy will be dwarfed thanks to CPEC"

India is a $2500 billion economy and conservative estimates take it too $43 trillion by 2050. It will be dwarfed by $50 billion investment /loan.

I don't weather to laugh at you or weap for you.

Uh no, delusions are when you think that you are expanding when in reality, you are actually being chipped away and eaten alive slowly and steadily from the very day that you were born.

You have much to learn about economics little child. The 50 billion investment is just the beginning which is continously opening doors for other billions of dollars worth of investments as we speak. And investments are further resulting in even more production. I'm not gonna explain the basics of economics to you, I suggest you order economics 101 from amazon or something written by a non indian writer since indian writers will only give you a false euphoric feeling that a $2.5 trillion economy for a nation of 1.3 billion ppl is somehow something to be proud of which it is not because being nearly ten times bigger than Pakistan on population, india's economy is only 4 times bigger. That's shamefully pathetic consider that China just north of you with a similar population as yours has economy 5 or 6 times the size of yours.

 

[Photon]

You have much to learn about economics little child. The 50 billion investment is just the beginning which is continously opening doors for other billions of dollars worth of investments as we speak. And investments are further resulting in even more production. I'm not gonna explain the basics of economics to you, I suggest you order economics 101 from amazon or something written by a non indian writer since indian writers will only give you a false euphoric feeling that a $2.5 trillion economy for a nation of 1.3 billion ppl is somehow something to be proud of which it is not because being nearly ten times bigger than Pakistan on population, india's economy is only 4 times bigger. That's shamefully pathetic consider that China just north of you with a similar population as yours has economy 5 or 6 times the size of yours.

You are a kid... And damn stupid one at that. It investment /loan.. Which has to be repaid to China with interest .. It will not have any significant impact for Pakistan economy vis a vis Indian economy.

And this economic disparity will only grow larger and larger.. And Pakistan has no way of bridging this widening gap.

Check the prediction of Pakistani gdp and Indian gdp three decades from now.. You will realize, how big a fool you are.

Do Not fudge up the facts! India population is 6 times bigger than Pakistans where as Indian economy is more than 9 times bigger than Pakistans.. That is why.. Indian percapita is higher than Pakistans.

 

[GumNaam]

You are a kid... And damn stupid one at that. It investment /loan.. Which has to be repaid to China with interest .. It will not have any significant impact for Pakistan economy vis a vis Indian economy.

And this economic disparity will only grow larger and larger.. And Pakistan has no way of bridging this widening gap.

Check the prediction of Pakistani gdp and Indian gdp three decades from now.. You will realize, how big a fool you are.

Do Not fudge up the facts! India population is 6 times bigger than Pakistans where as Indian economy is more than 9 times bigger than Pakistans.. That is why.. Indian percapita is higher than Pakistans.

Oooh, temper temper little child. Not good at all for your protein deprived body and a mind nearly on the verge of depression due to CPEC.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Now of course, whatever you are regurgitating is indian media fed which is visibly seething with jealousy. But the fact of the matter is that most of it actually an investment, not loan. $11 billion is a loan at 1.6% while the rest is an investment that China will recover from profits through CPEC and then some. And 1.6% is very cheap. And another thing that your jealously seething media isn't telling you is that CPEC has already started attracting roughly $150 billion in other investments from firms ranging from Europe to America to middle east, Turkey, Russia, you name it. AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING! So hold on to your calories little child, your jealousy will be burning them a lot faster than you have ever imagined!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

WAR

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

If India can stop the flow of the Indus; it would've done it a long time ago. These fanboys forget that the Indus itself originates in Tibet.

India simply cannot do jack shit, their words and actions are just as hallow as their 'sir j kal' strikes. The only real control they have over Pakistani rivers are Ravi and Chenab; which India tries to use as 'hostages' against China and Pakistan. China has threatened of diverting and cutting off all flow if India tries anything.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/china-reacts-guardedly-to-indus-water-treaty-talks-suspension-1467269
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indu...options-for-india-to-turn-off-the-tap-1466034
https://www.thequint.com/world/2016...eapon-pakistan-river-mekong-brahmaputra-tibet
http://qz.com/790885/narendra-modi-...o-scrap-the-indus-water-treaty-with-pakistan/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...n-Tibet-to-build-dam/articleshow/54622469.cms
http://www.hindustantimes.com/analy...p-for-india/story-LLyx2YvAPsSSU4y9uLWxyK.html

 

[GumNaam]

If India can stop the flow of the Indus; it would've done it a long time ago. These fanboys forget that the Indus itself originates in Tibet.

India simply cannot do jack shit, their words and actions are just as hallow as their 'sir j kal' strikes. The only real control they have over Pakistani rivers are Ravi and Chenab; which India tries to use as 'hostages' against China and Pakistan. China has threatened of diverting and cutting off all flow if India tries anything.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/china-reacts-guardedly-to-indus-water-treaty-talks-suspension-1467269
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indu...options-for-india-to-turn-off-the-tap-1466034
https://www.thequint.com/world/2016...eapon-pakistan-river-mekong-brahmaputra-tibet
http://qz.com/790885/narendra-modi-...o-scrap-the-indus-water-treaty-with-pakistan/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...n-Tibet-to-build-dam/articleshow/54622469.cms
http://www.hindustantimes.com/analy...p-for-india/story-LLyx2YvAPsSSU4y9uLWxyK.html

no nooo, indus does not originate from China. that is just Chinese propaganda.

 

[sankar]

You realize Indus doesn't get out of India right and if this continues, this map that I keep seeing, will become a reality... I've been seeing this image a lot on different Chinese forums. Check out the Red lights and the White line diverting the entire few rivers away from India. The water can be tunnelled to Pakistan and the Chinese built such infrastructures really fast.

My point, don't use Water as a weapon to 200 million people as it would backfire significantly. You have much bigger population that needs water from China, then the Pakistanis.

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China can give you something., Not all their source.
Secondly you need to to something for your country , not China.

 

[Ram Mahadev]

Pakistan will invade India now

 

[GumNaam]

Pakistan will invade India now

well as per arnab goswami, Pakistani "atankvadis" are already invading india. Care to stop 'em?

 

[el che]

no nooo, indus does not originate from China. that is just Chinese propaganda.

Zanskar carries more water than Indus at their confluence. Indus water is difficult to exploit because of the terrain and no immediate scarcity of water in its basin in India. No water is being stopped now nor India is capable. The first step would be to build capacity to utilize 20% of western rivers. There are 38 dams planned across the Chenab.

https://www.internationalrivers.org/resources/hydro-electric-projects-in-chenab-river-basin-7563

Next will be Jhelum and Indus. It may take two decades, further increase of population and growing water and power requirement for significant impact in the coming years. A lot can happen. As of now there is no chance of any significant damage. While the dams on Chenab are filled there may be water shortage down stream like when Baghlihar dam was being filled. Nothing catastrophic.

 

[Samee Ulhaq]

Does That means Neelum-Jhalum Project is stopped.??

 

[el che]

Does That means Neelum-Jhalum Project is stopped.??

No it means World Bank will not interfere as of now.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1302087/world-bank-pauses-dam-arbitration-to-protect-indus-waters-treaty

WB has left it to India and Pakistan to settle the disputes mutually.

 

[jha]

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Again... Read about water catchment areas of rivers.

IWT is always at out mercy. Having suspended the meeting of commissioners, we will take our time in deciding the next meeting. Meanwhile work on dams will go on.

 

[90ArsalanLeo]

Remember Shimla Agreement, Ceasefire agreement, Anti Terror cooperation, SAARC agreement (infact not followed the basic rule of economic cooperation between saarc nations - you have't allowed India's trade to Afghanistan thru pakistan and vice versa). There are plenty to point out my friend.

What anti terrorism agreement if there was any modi tore it up completely whatever little was left intact after using raw to sponsor terrorism in Pakistan through proxy groups, Ceasefire agreement across LOC has been violated by ur army 100+ times in last four months Pakistan has always called UN observers to check who violated it but as always india always hide the truth from world, SAARC agreement is always respected by Pakistan but india lobbied against it and turned nepal, myammar, afghanistan, bangladesh & recently srilanka away from it most recently india boycotted the saarc conference that was to be held in Islamabad and it also pressured other participants to boycott it so don't play victim u can fool few but u can't fool us.

indians always think about actions they forget about reactions/consequences i.e we will do surgical strikes, we will stop water, we will not play cricket with u etc etc. Without water we will not just die quietly sitting in our homes there will be a Blow back there will be a war. Modi said recently "blood and water cant flow together" he's right if our water is completely stopped from flowing then the blood of indians will flow so i hope modi makes wise decision which is to let the water flow.