witnessed target killing in Karachi

[HRK]

Yeah I have see enough videos on You tube. In one of the videos there r two colonies facing each other, one of the colonies is inhabitated by the Pathans while the other is MQM. Both blame and accuse the other party for firing. Just check the video given below and do let me know whether it is ethnicity or political interest of parties.

Karachi is a complicated city the video you shared is of the area of 'Kati pahari' .... & again contrary to the popular believe (the anchor of the program Kamran Shahid is a Lahore based journalist) that was not an ethnic violence but a gang war supported by MQM & ANP.

Now precisely addressing to your question of that incident; City government (MQM lead Government) of that time initiated a Road project which had to pass through a small mountain which was illegally inhabited by pushtun population & for that project government arrange the some extra land related to the project, secondly because of this project the value of the real state in that area was supposed to go high as at one side of that project a posh locality North Nazimabad is situated on the other side a semi Industrial & Business Area is situated the only shortfall easy access of transport was going to be resolved through that project.

Some local builder with the support of low level MQM workers tried to grab that extra land related to the project and the land near to it which local pushtun gangs supported by ANP find as encroachment in 'their area' (that mountain was/ is consider as the boundary b/w local gangs supported by both the political parties).

One of the prominent MQM leader interfered & got the issue resolved temporarily, MQM as a political party was not involved in it secondly they were governing the city so it was not their political interest to involve in that matter, but local gangs & builders were not in the mode to let go the business opportunity that easily so within 2 or 3 months the other side with the support of ANP made a move & break the truce among them.

So in short it was gang war with the objective to make the people flee from their homes so that builders can have their business in that area.

 

[W.11]

Buses r burned by local ppl when they kill some pedistrain. Accidents do happen in any part of word that doesn't mean u have to burn buses and public properites
But what about burning shops. I have also seen videos of gunman exchanging fire. I do read yr newspaper DAWN

give me hard proofs that MQM burned 2000 shops of pathans and their buses, u seem a very retard person

don't try to be a over smart fool and know more than a karachiite does

Yeah I have see enough videos on You tube. In one of the videos there r two colonies facing each other, one of the colonies is inhabitated by the Pathans while the other is MQM. Both blame and accuse the other party for firing. Just check the video given below and do let me know whether it is ethnicity or political interest of parties.

U r the biggest fool on planet earth

jab pta nahi ho idiot, to apna mun na khola karo? ANP the pathan nationalists occupy the area which is called kati parahi, they are the land/drug mafia, they distributed weapons on the pathan residents of the kati pahari to occupy and encroach the lands of the near by areas of north nazimabad and orangi

 

[suresh1773]

Karachi is a complicated city the video you shared is of the area of 'Kati pahari' .... & again contrary to the popular believe (the anchor of the program Kamran Shahid is a Lahore based journalist) that was not an ethnic violence but a gang war supported by MQM & ANP.

Now precisely addressing to your question of that incident; City government (MQM lead Government) of that time initiated a Road project which had to pass through a small mountain which was illegally inhabited by pushtun population & for that project government arrange the some extra land related to the project, secondly because of this project the value of the real state in that area was supposed to go high as at one side of that project a posh locality North Nazimabad is situated on the other side a semi Industrial & Business Area is situated the only shortfall easy access of transport was going to be resolved through that project.

Some local builder with the support of low level MQM workers tried to grab that extra land related to the project and the land near to it which local pushtun gangs supported by ANP find as encroachment in 'their area' (that mountain was/ is consider as the boundary b/w local gangs supported by both the political parties).

One of the prominent MQM leader interfered & got the issue resolved temporarily, MQM as a political party was not involved in it secondly they were governing the city so it was not their political interest to involve in that matter, but local gangs & builders were not in the mode to let go the business opportunity that easily so within 2 or 3 months the other side with the support of ANP made a move & break the truce among them.

So in short it was gang war with the objective to make the people flee from their homes so that builders can have their business in that area.

With due respect to you,what about the exchange of gun fires between the 2 communites. Are they playing any Chor-Police game. If I am not wrong,if the pathans had occupied the area ill-legally then they should be tried in court of law. They should be given legal notice to vacate the area, even after that if they don’t vacate then your police should be called.

First of all you have elected someone who wasn't even allowed to visit US before becoming PM. And don't talk about your courts. They are an even bigger joke than the secularism you guys proclaim.

In today's world you have permanent interests & no permanent friends. In the same way why are foreign dignatiries cancelling their visits to Pakistan. Why r Pakistani cricket matches held in UK or Dubai. This was not the case earlier

PS: Your own Prime Minister Mr. Nawaz Sharief is asking terrorists to leave PUNJAB, I mean the Pakistani one & target the rest of Pakistan,just refer to reply no #45 on this thread by HaviZsultan. What is this,this is not a joke but Hypocrisy,so don't lecture Indians

 

[HRK]

With due respect to you,what about the exchange of gun fires between the 2 communites. Are they playing any Chor-Police game.

There was no community clash otherwise hundreds or thousands could have died.

If I am not wrong,if the pathans had occupied the area ill-legally then they should be tried in court of law. They should be given legal notice to vacate the area, even after that if they don’t vacate then your police should be called.

the land in discussion in occupied illegally predominantly by patans 'not only' by pathans community, secondly the whole purpose of gang war was to make people flee their homes so that they their supported builder can grab that land.

 

[Dalit]

Indians are laughing today because of our foolishness. We will not give up our idiocy. I went to that account which posted this video and the person is one of those idiotic Indians who search for ways to make fun of Pakistan and its accomplishments.

But who gives people like this an opportunity to make fun of Pakistan. India has no ethnic problem, they are beyond this issue. Just a simple example i will provide. India has 15% Punjabi or Sikhs in their army. The total Sikh population is less than 2%. They don't give a flying **** about this issue of ethnicity. No one objects that less than 2% of their army comprises people from Madras or Tamil Nadu. But in Pakistan I saw an entire thread on the topic, each group worried about how many people from the other ethnic group were in the army.

But tell W11 to give up MQM which is part of the problem and he will refuse to accept that it has killed Pashtuns and Sindhis. He will refuse it has also killed innocent Punjabis and in many cases even muhajirs. All these political parties are only accentuating a problem that exists in Pakistanis psyche, which is divisive, weak and incapable of uniting the country. WE need Allah's help and a ruler who is not part of the ethnic problem to solve this mess. Nawaz Sharif himself is highly politicized. He is said to have made speeches asking the terrorists to leave punjab and target the rest of the country. When you have such feudal, gaon wala, and derh int ki alag masjid wala mindset, how can we progress? I saw the recent video posted by an Indian about Pashtun Muhajir problems and it tears my heart apart. We can't live in one nation united and now Indians are making fun of us?

@Dalit where are you from? Which part of Pakistan? In my communication with Hindu brothers I have noticed many with loyalty towards the PPPP benazir. I am glad you are different but many I have seen are highly politicized. I am not blaming you for anything, you are a brother to me as is every Pakistani Hindu but just something I have seen or noticed

I am from Peshawar (KPK). I have no loyalty with PPP or any other feudal party for that matter. I only support IK because he still has a chance to prove his worth unlike most corrupt political parties. I have high expectations from him because I believe that he is an honest and a patriotic person. No human is free from sin or faults, but at least he is not a sell-out. IK only has one chance in my opinion. If he fails, he will be added to the list of failures too. I don't support a political figure due to his/her personality. I support him/her because I judge people on their deeds and actions.

You're right about many Hindu Pakistanis supporting the likes of PPP. The PPP belongs to Sindh and likes to play this card in their favour. Hence, many Hindus supporting PPP blindly. Although, we have to admit that as Pakistanis (particularly the older generation) we vote for a person due to ethnicity and personality worship. This ridiculous thought needs to change. I do believe that the younger generation is starting to vote based on manifesto and past track record of candidates. This is a good sign in the longer run.

 

[suresh1773]

There was no community clash otherwise hundreds or thousands could have died.

A picture says a thousand words goes the proverb.

In the video the journalist shows the bullet markings fired by both the communities & the allegations raised by the both the parties. There is no talk of land grabbing

It might be a isolated incident between the 2 communities but Karachi has a history of deadliest violence among different groups which cannot be denied. Just refer to reply #33 where u have Zardari saying in Sindhi "see how we made Pashtuns and Muhajirs fight" to one of his comrades

the land in discussion in occupied illegally predominantly by patans 'not only' by pathans community, secondly the whole purpose of gang war was to make people flee their homes so that they their supported builder can grab that land.

Sorry the typing mistake.Those who occupy land ill-legally should be given notice to evict the same irrespective of whether they are Patans,Pathans,phuktans,MQM or any body else

 

[HRK]

A picture says a thousand words goes the proverb.

In the video the journalist shows the bullet markings fired by both the communities & the allegations raised by the both the parties. There is no talk of land grabbing

It might be a isolated incident between the 2 communities but Karachi has a history of deadliest violence among different groups which cannot be denied. Just refer to reply #33 where u have Zardari saying in Sindhi "see how we made Pashtuns and Muhajirs fight" to one of his comrades

Sorry the typing mistake.Those who occupy land ill-legally should be given notice to evict the same irrespective of whether they are Patans,Pathans,phuktans,MQM or any body else

bullet marking on how many home or how many streets were shown in that video ?? just few houses and a street if both communities were engaging each other then there must hundreds or thousand house must have been burnt or looted. I would not force you to believe it as that dirty game was played in a way to make it appear a communal violence, many here also believe it; secondly because of certain obvious reasons and vested interest of political parties they got suck in that situation.

secondly you are raising the point that 'legal notice' should have been given to those residents but my dear for what purpose it was not the government who wanted them to move from that land.

that was a gang war for the benefit of local builders, but guess what that trick actually cause them more rather to pay as till to date value of the property in adjacent area has not recovered.

 

[haviZsultan]

I am from Peshawar (KPK). I have no loyalty with PPP or any other feudal party for that matter. I only support IK because he still has a chance to prove his worth unlike most corrupt political parties. I have high expectations from him because I believe that he is an honest and a patriotic person. No human is free from sin or faults, but at least he is not a sell-out. IK only has one chance in my opinion. If he fails, he will be added to the list of failures too. I don't support a political figure due to his/her personality. I support him/her because I judge people on their deeds and actions.

You're right about many Hindu Pakistanis supporting the likes of PPP. The PPP belongs to Sindh and likes to play this card in their favour. Hence, many Hindus supporting PPP blindly. Although, we have to admit that as Pakistanis (particularly the older generation) we vote for a person due to ethnicity and personality worship. This ridiculous thought needs to change. I do believe that the younger generation is starting to vote based on manifesto and past track record of candidates. This is a good sign in the longer run.

You must be a very big minority there. People from India probably don't understand but living as such a small minority in Pakistan I have noticed many Hindus and Christians use Muslim names and words like Alhumdullillah and MashaAllah. You defend Muslims because you have lived with them practically throughout your life. The Indians believe this is imposssible.

This beautiful bond between us is something the Indians do not understand. These are difficult times but I promise I will do everything to improve the situation and make things better for Hindu Christian and other minorities in our country.

I have much respect for Hindus in Pakistan. You guys stayed when you could move out. You had heroes like Jogindar Nath Mandal who stood for the formation of Pakistan. Many people like Zarvan try to obscure the link-the bond of love and respect between Pakistani Hindus and Muslims but particularly in parts of eastern Sindh Hindus and Muslims live like brothers.

Sure there are problems like the Taliban and fanatics but they are a collective problem for all Pakistanis, not just Hindus. I must apologize for the current situation in Pakistan brother Dalit. I hope we get through this difficult time.

Soran Singh is in PTI and an active member of the party. I want to see the day more minorities are included in the social fabric, without bias or discrimination.

 

[dexter]

@W.11
My relative who was a doctor in Gulberg was shot in his clinic on monday.
but i must say still Karachi is better than before ,
Warna rozana 18 , 20 to mare jate the ab 4 to 5 hogaye hen.

 

[bilalamd]

P.S: I've never heard of any militant wing of PPP.

Wondering, how can we overlook Uzair Baloch`s lead, People Aman Committee

 

[Somali-Turk]

there are some incidents here or there,but overall the people value peace and they want to live in peace and prosper,it is only election times that things get tense-normal in many parts of the world.allah blessed pakistan with educated class that really cares unlike the corrupt politicians.
foreigner in karachi for 8 years.