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With BECA, India Will be US’ De Facto Military Ally

US don't have a habit to treat ally like ally, more or less like vassal.
Due to the asymmetry of power, between US and India, India is acting more and more like vassal.
Actually that's quite normal, India is less developed, depends on the west hugely. and India can't defend herself.
When India has no better choice, US just take advantage from it.

Nope, US has 2 types of alliance with countries. 1 is ideological, 2nd is transactional

The ones we have ideological alliance we are with them day and night and support them militarily, economically and technologically. countries we have ideological alliance with are

- israel
-S.korea
-Europe
-taiwan to some extent
-canada

the ones we have transactional alliance its only as good when the transaction is complete, that alliance happens becuz both parties want something from each other but for the most part they dont like each other. once its done neither party cares. they include

-India (contain china (US) - defend against china (India))
-Pakistan (contain terrorism (US) - money and military toys (Pak))
-vietnam (contain communism (US) - defend against china (viet))
-china (both nations trade even though they dont like each other)
- South america
-saudia arabia, UAE ( Oil (US), military protection (Arabs)
 
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Basically any thing India will get from the US, they will have to be able to use and secure themselves. When operating with the Americans they would use Link 16 and other datalinks to share data in real time, but they will manage their own network themselves or else risk it staying open to the Americans to see all their movements.

Their two previous agreements were logistics/base sharing (a similar agreement has been signed between them and other nations), and intelligence and datalink/interoperability.

with this new agreement, sharing GIS data, it will all come together for the US to sell software to help them plan out military ops, but the Achilles heel of the India will still be their networks and over-eagerness

expect the us to sell software like the following: (this is the time for Pakistan to work on similar software with China using the Beidou data)

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction....

Now, expect a similar deal b/w China and Pak! The difference is China believes in "collectivity", but the USA believes in "individuality"....
 
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Every action has an equal and opposite reaction....

Now, expect a similar deal b/w China and Pak! The difference is China believes in "collectivity", but the USA believes in "individuality"....
Also the Indians don’t want to commit, they want to be allies and have interoperability without saying it out loud as not to alienate the Russians.

The Indians try to have their cake and eat it too, but inshallah will end up with neither.
 
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in a strategic alliance alliance us is the top dog, everyone else has to follow the strict pecking order.
 
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The only use to India for the US is that it has hundreds of millions of soldiers to be used against the Chinese as cannon fodder. The US will just sit back and relax while throwing Indians at Chinese bullets.
 
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The U.S. and India are expected to sign a key military agreement this week, bolstering cooperation in the Pacific and Indian oceans to counter an increasingly assertive China, Indian officials said.

The satellite-intelligence pact will be completed during a visit by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary Mark Esper to New Delhi, Indian officials said, part of an annual gathering with their Indian counterparts Tuesday.

A senior U.S. defense official didn’t confirm the planned signing, but cited significant progress. He also said the pact, known as the Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement, or Beca, would “allow for expanded geospatial-information sharing between our armed forces.”

India’s cabinet, which met under Prime Minister Narendra Modi early last week, approved the draft pact, setting the stage for a formal signing, according to two Indian government officials privy to the development.

The pact would give India access to advanced American map and satellite imagery, enhancing the accuracy of automated weapons, drones and missiles, the Indian officials said.


Besides India, Mr. Pompeo is visiting Sri Lanka, the Maldives and Indonesia.

The enhanced cooperation with New Delhi comes at a time of heightened tensions between India and China along their Himalayan border, where the nuclear-armed neighbors have deployed tens of thousands of troops with artillery since a deadly hand-to-hand clash in mid-June.

“In the current scenario of the border standoff with China, geospatial intelligence and real-time images will be crucial for us,” said one of the Indian officials.



Mr. Modi’s efforts to strengthen ties with partner countries—especially the others in what is called the Quad group, Australia, Japan and the U.S.—are aligning with the Trump administration’s much more assertive approach to China, said Harsh V. Pant, head of strategic affairs at Delhi-based Observer Research Foundation, which describes itself as a nonpartisan, independent research organization that promotes a “strong and prosperous India in a fair and equitable world.”


“The fact that the U.S. is spending so much diplomatic capital on enhancing ties with India when an election is a week away underscores the growing maturity of Indo-U.S. engagement and the fact that China’s rise is a challenge that cannot wait for the electoral cycle to get over,” said Mr. Pant.

The U.S. and India have grown closer over the past two decades, starting with a landmark political deal that legitimized India’s nuclear arsenal and opened the door to sales of civilian nuclear technology from the U.S.

From essentially zero dollars in defense cooperation in 2008, India-U.S bilateral defense trade has grown to more than $20 billion in 2020, according to the State Department. American aviation and aerospace companies such as Boeing Co. andLockheed Martin Corp. , as well as U.S. suppliers of arms and ammunition, have pursued business opportunities in India.

During the first “2+2” dialogue of top defense and foreign-policy officials in 2018, the two countries signed an agreement to allow the sharing of encrypted military intelligence. The two nations have also signed the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement, which permits their respective militaries to replenish materiel and fuel from each other’s bases.


Still, India has traditionally emphasized its nonaligned status, and most experts don’t think New Delhi is likely to become an official treaty ally of the U.S. in the same way as Australia, Japan or South Korea.

“The U.S. and India will need to craft their security partnership in a way that it stays out of the alliance system,” said Michael Kugleman, senior South Asia expert at the Wilson Center, a nonpartisan Washington policy think tank chartered by Congress. “The Quad offers one such pathway: It binds together four like-minded nations that are increasingly willing to engage in maritime cooperation.”

The U.S. is also looking for better maritime cooperation with island countries in the Pacific and Indian Oceans as China seeks to press its own claims and boost Beijing’s influence through its Belt and Road initiative, focused on building infrastructure and trade.

“We are enforcing what has been long known as international law and preventing folks from trying to dominate or monopolize access to any particular area,” said David Stilwell, assistant secretary of state for the Asia-Pacific, told reporters Thursday.

After New Delhi, Mr. Pompeo is set to visit Colombo, the largest city in Sri Lanka, and meet Prime Minister Mahinda Rajapaksa, a politician seen as friendly to China.

“We encourage Sri Lanka to review the options we offer for transparent and sustainable economic development in contrast to discriminatory and opaque practices,” said Dean Thompson, a State Department official overseeing South and Central Asian affairs.

Then Mr. Pompeo has a stop in Male, the capital of the Maldives, an island country in the Indian Ocean. The visit comes just weeks after Maldivian and U.S. defense officials signed a cooperation agreement.

Mr. Pompeo will then meet President Joko Widodo in Jakarta. The Trump administration has sought to defend the maritime and fishing claims of Indonesia and other Southeast Asian nations against competing claims by China.

“Rules provide the grease between countries so we don’t have unfortunate incidents,” Mr. Stilwell said. “So again, our support for not just Indonesia but all the claimant states in Southeast Asia and pretty much everywhere provides that, prevents instability and conflict.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-in...pact-as-china-prompts-closer-ties-11603623601
 
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Good, then China will use this as a excuse to take back south Tibet if India gets out of line. USA army doesn’t have the nerve to face the PLA like those small countries they invade.
 
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Wow more hot air for the domestic airheads? Everyone knows the U.S. regime would have aided the weaker India to the extend that both sides lose as much as possible as long as it doesnt cost them a dime or they even profit from it, with and without some scrap of paper for publicity, just as everyone knows that the U.S. regime will never bend over to help and save India even if they sign some scrap of paper promising it.
 
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Pompeo, Esper to ink agreement with Indian officials, part of Beijing-focused diplomatic push in Asia
Oct. 25, 2020 7:00 am ET


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Indian soldiers disembarking from a military plane on Sept. 15 in the Ladakh region, part of the disputed area between India and China.


The U.S. and India are expected to sign a key military agreement this week, bolstering cooperation in the Pacific and Indian oceans to counter an increasingly assertive China, Indian officials said.

The satellite-intelligence pact will be completed during a visit by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary Mark Esper to New Delhi, Indian officials said, part of an annual gathering with their Indian counterparts Tuesday.

A senior U.S. defense official didn’t confirm the planned signing, but cited significant progress. He also said the pact, known as the Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement, or Beca, would “allow for expanded geospatial-information sharing between our armed forces.”

India’s cabinet, which met under Prime Minister Narendra Modi early last week, approved the draft pact, setting the stage for a formal signing, according to two Indian government officials privy to the development.

The pact would give India access to advanced American map and satellite imagery, enhancing the accuracy of automated weapons, drones and missiles, the Indian officials said.
Besides India, Mr. Pompeo is visiting Sri Lanka, the Maldives and Indonesia.

The enhanced cooperation with New Delhi comes at a time of heightened tensions between India and China along their Himalayan border, where the nuclear-armed neighbors have deployed tens of thousands of troops with artillery since a deadly hand-to-hand clash in mid-June.

“In the current scenario of the border standoff with China, geospatial intelligence and real-time images will be crucial for us,” said one of the Indian officials.

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Indian army vehicles in the disputed region of eastern Ladakh on Sept. 7.
PHOTO: FAROOQ KHAN/SHUTTERSTOCK

Mr. Modi’s efforts to strengthen ties with partner countries—especially the others in what is called the Quad group, Australia, Japan and the U.S.—are aligning with the Trump administration’s much more assertive approach to China, said Harsh V. Pant, head of strategic affairs at Delhi-based Observer Research Foundation, which describes itself as a nonpartisan, independent research organization that promotes a “strong and prosperous India in a fair and equitable world.”

“The fact that the U.S. is spending so much diplomatic capital on enhancing ties with India when an election is a week away underscores the growing maturity of Indo-U.S. engagement and the fact that China’s rise is a challenge that cannot wait for the electoral cycle to get over,” said Mr. Pant.

The U.S. and India have grown closer over the past two decades, starting with a landmark political deal that legitimized India’s nuclear arsenal and opened the door to sales of civilian nuclear technology from the U.S.

From essentially zero dollars in defense cooperation in 2008, India-U.S bilateral defense trade has grown to more than $20 billion in 2020, according to the State

Department. American aviation and aerospace companies such as Boeing Co. and Lockheed Martin Corp. , as well as U.S. suppliers of arms and ammunition, have pursued business opportunities in India.

During the first “2+2” dialogue of top defense and foreign-policy officials in 2018, the two countries signed an agreement to allow the sharing of encrypted military intelligence. The two nations have also signed the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement, which permits their respective militaries to replenish materiel and fuel from each other’s bases.

Still, India has traditionally emphasized its nonaligned status, and most experts don’t think New Delhi is likely to become an official treaty ally of the U.S. in the same way as Australia, Japan or South Korea.

“The U.S. and India will need to craft their security partnership in a way that it stays out of the alliance system,” said Michael Kugleman, senior South Asia expert at the Wilson Center, a nonpartisan Washington policy think tank chartered by Congress. “The Quad offers one such pathway: It binds together four like-minded nations that are increasingly willing to engage in maritime cooperation.”

The U.S. is also looking for better maritime cooperation with island countries in the Pacific and Indian Oceans as China seeks to press its own claims and boost Beijing’s influence through its Belt and Road initiative, focused on building infrastructure and trade.

“We are enforcing what has been long known as international law and preventing folks from trying to dominate or monopolize access to any particular area,” said David Stilwell, assistant secretary of state for the Asia-Pacific, told reporters Thursday.
After New Delhi, Mr. Pompeo is set to visit Colombo, the largest city in Sri Lanka, and meet Prime Minister Mahinda Rajapaksa, a politician seen as friendly to China.

“We encourage Sri Lanka to review the options we offer for transparent and sustainable economic development in contrast to discriminatory and opaque practices,” said Dean Thompson, a State Department official overseeing South and Central Asian affairs.

Then Mr. Pompeo has a stop in Male, the capital of the Maldives, an island country in the Indian Ocean. The visit comes just weeks after Maldivian and U.S. defense officials signed a cooperation agreement.

Mr. Pompeo will then meet President Joko Widodo in Jakarta. The Trump administration has sought to defend the maritime and fishing claims of Indonesia and other Southeast Asian nations against competing claims by China.

“Rules provide the grease between countries so we don’t have unfortunate incidents,” Mr. Stilwell said. “So again, our support for not just Indonesia but all the claimant states in Southeast Asia and pretty much everywhere provides that, prevents instability and conflict.”

—Nancy Youssef contributed to this article

 
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If you look at the present scenario, the countries that are a part of NATO have never been attacked from the times Soviets were in power to their downfall, to this date when Russian Federation exercises power.

Same goes for Japan and South Korea, both of the nations have a defense pact with the US. None of them have been attacked after the world war 2 and the Korean war.

All these nations, have been able to focus their wealth on education, infrastructure, technology and manufacturing. Today, they’re all developed, with no worries about attacks or having sophisticated weapons which requires heavy amounts of money, as the US provides them with protection

Welcoming move
 
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If you look at the present scenario, the countries that are a part of NATO have never been attacked from the times Soviets were in power to their downfall, to this date when Russian Federation exercises power.

Same goes for Japan and South Korea, both of the nations have a defense pact with the US. None of them have been attacked after the world war 2 and the Korean war.

All these nations, have been able to focus their wealth on education, infrastructure, technology and manufacturing. Today, they’re all developed, with no worries about attacks or having sophisticated weapons which requires heavy amounts of money, as the US provides them with protection

Welcoming move

South Vietnam was a US treaty ally too.

They were conquered and destroyed.

In the meantime all the atrocities of the Vietnam war like My Lai and Agent Orange didn't happen in North Vietnam. They all happened in South Vietnam. More South Vietnamese civilians died than North Vietnamese soldiers.
 
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NATO+INDIA+QUAD

Population: 2.7 BILLION
GDP ($54T)
Manpower (5.7M)
Airplanes: 33K
Submarines: 280
Nukes: 8.5K
Warships: 1600
Military Budget: $1.5T

#PrayForChina
 
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If you look at the present scenario, the countries that are a part of NATO have never been attacked from the times Soviets were in power to their downfall, to this date when Russian Federation exercises power.

Same goes for Japan and South Korea, both of the nations have a defense pact with the US. None of them have been attacked after the world war 2 and the Korean war.

All these nations, have been able to focus their wealth on education, infrastructure, technology and manufacturing. Today, they’re all developed, with no worries about attacks or having sophisticated weapons which requires heavy amounts of money, as the US provides them with protection

Welcoming move

Seriously..... we need such alliance with a powerful country like USA..... see nobody dares to touch Taiwan, Japan, Australia New Zealand (anzus treaty) , NATO members.....

Such alliance will enable us further to reduce our already very small defense spending of 2% and concentrate on other priorities.... even if we have to compromise with secrecy and have to allow USA maintaining bases on our land then also for the sake of people welfare it's acceptable.....

Main thing will be we will permanently get rid of war threats from 2 powerful nuclear enemies on our east and west......

Great decision.....
 
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